NAMP is a body that represents Muslim police officers
The National Association of Muslim Police (NAMP)’s submission to the House of Commons’ Communities and Local Government Committee gives a dangerously misleading account of the threat of white extremist violence.
NAMP told the committee that it believed that the threat from far-Right groups was greater than Islamist terrorists. It said that the Government’s policies to tackle Islamic extremism is failing and contributing to the ”promotion of Islamophobia.” In light of the recent attempted suicide bomber Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab, who was a student at UCL in London, where intelligence sources believe he was encouraged to become an extremist through the university’s Islamic Society, NAMP believes, according to the Daily Mail’s report, that the Government is “wrong to blame Islam as the main ‘driver’ of terrorist activity.”
NAMP’s submission to the Commons CLG committee comes after the recent reassessment of how we approach terrorism and airport security. Both the US and UK governments have both said that they may consider profiling people as a means to making flights more safe for passengers. This could mean young Muslim men are more likely to be singled out.
Nothing British believes that NAMP’s statement to the committee is not correct. Furthermore, it has also misinterpreted the government’s policies on Islamic extremism on UK university campuses (for more on Islamic extremism in UK universities please see the Centre for Social Cohesion’s thorough report here).
1. Far-right extremism is a greater threat to UK security
The rise of UK white nationalist extremism is undoubtedly a concern, but it has not yet converted itself into terrorism and violence. There have of course been isolated incidents like Terence Gavan and Neil Lewington in the last year, but they have been acting as ”lone wolfs” and not part of some major organised command structure. According to Europol’s most recent report into terrorism, the total number of those arrested for far-Right related terrorism across the EU in 2008 was zero. Compared to 187 for Islamist related terror arrests in the same year.
Anti-Muslim groups like the EDL, which have gained a high media profile through its controversial marches, have not yet manifested themselves into full blown terrorist organisations. Whilst distasteful, organisations like Blood and Honour, the violent neo-Nazi organisation with links to the terror group Combat-18, are too disorganised and fractured to pose any serious security threat at present – this view is shared by Scotland Yard according to Nothing British’s recent meetings with Police.
“These groups are obnxious and one day they could be dangerous, but as things stand there is no evidence that we are on the brink of a white supremecist uprising,” said James Bethell, Director of Nothing British.
2. Hatred towards Muslims has grown because of government anti-terrorism policy
Hate crime against Muslims in recent years has actually fallen.
According to the government’s most recent stats on hate crime towards Muslims, from April 2007 to March 2008, the Metropolitan Police registered 106 anti-Muslim incidents and 89 crimes. Although this figure is still too high (crimes against Jews are far higher please see the CST’s report here), it is still a dramatic decrease and is following an overall trend in declining faith hate crimes over the past three years (1,103 crimes in 2005/2006; 823 crimes in 2006/2007 and 521 crimes in 2007/2008).
However, NB believes that the government’s integration policy has failed both Muslims and non-Muslims through the pursuit of multi-culturalism, which has created fractured identities. We believe that by adopting a more patriotic integration policy that sought to unite people through a common identity social cohesion would improve relationships between Britain’s Muslim and non-Muslim communities.
3. The government is wrong to blame Islam for extremism
This is simply wrong. Ever since the London bombings on 7/7 the government has deliberately, and rightly, sought to distinguish between Islam (the religion) and Islamism (violent political ideology).
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The National Association of Muslim Police…
Why isnt trevor phillips dragging this clearly ‘racist’ organization through the courts?
Can nationalists expect fair treatment from these people?
NO!
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I can see them now, licking their lips & rubbing their hands in glee if they (NAMP) went round to the house of a paid up BNP member!
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Wonder what the NAMP thinks of this:
The two gay police officers who became the first British same sex couple to have a baby through a relative are both still “married” to other men, it was disclosed today.
Stephen Ponder, 28, a special constable, and his partner Ivan Sigston, 43, a Hampshire police dog handler, began an affair after they met when still with their previous partners.
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Davey, some things are beyond discussion.
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Sam – Your on-subject comments are much appreciated, but I am deleting abusive remarks like the last post. James.
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“Im sure the 2 sodomite cops at it in uniform gave you you a little stir”
Sam Pauli……….. why does someone have to make homophobic remarks when they see something to do with Gay men? I can give you a million more issues with heterosexual couples and unfaithfullness to their partners.
Who says these men are “Sodomites”…do you know that more than half gay men do not engage in penetration at all?
If you knew the bible and the historic events in the Hebrew you would know that “Sodomy” in fact has nothng to do with sexuality…. it is mistranslations over the millenia that has b so caled christians elieving that heterosexuality is the only permissable sexuality from their (non existent) god.
When I see people make ignorant remarks like you have just made it makes me wanna pewk………. you utter complete arsehole.
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Kafur – can you pls find somewhere else for this sort of abuse. Your constructive, on-subject comments always appreciated. Thanks, James.
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I agree James..thank you
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“Muslim Police are wrong about far-Right terror”
Well I would broadly agree with that as apart from “Lone wolves” there isn’t much BNP or NF type terrorism unless you want to include some thuggery that goes on but I think that is more UAF territory.
The jihadists definitely are quoting Islam as their inspiration & there have been plenty of them.
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I agree with you on your far-right analysis. UAF are thugs, but they are not terrorists.
The problem with blaming Islam means that you have to look at other people who kill in the name of there’s. German soldiers were often given the blessing of Catholic priests, yet no one is saying that Christianity is a violent religion.
But thanks for you comments.
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I was shocked when I read the NAMP report as to just how poor it is.
Firstly it is littered with spelling and grammar mistakes, and looks as if it has been proof read by a distracted student – you would have thought a professional body, submitting its views to the government, would have produced something that was a lot tighter. What for example does this mean?
“1.5: All forms Right Wing, Separatist, so called Islamist, Green issues, Single entity…….need to addressed as opposed to the current PREVENT focus on Islam”
Politically it is also very poor. A simple glance at the Home Office May 2009 statistics on terrorism arrests in the UK shows 91% of terrorist prisoners in the UK classed themselves as Muslims (p.7). Given Muslims comprise something like 5% of the UK population, it is hardly a suprise that the government (and the general public) is concerned about the conduct of radical Islamists in the UK.
In recent years we have also seen a small number of right wing gun nuts and BNP inadequates obtaining convictions for hoarding weapons and/or experimenting with explosives. On the numbers given though, they would appear to be outnumbered by at least 9-1 by jihadists and would be jihadists.
The NAMP would appear to have as much a problem with maths as they do with grammar.
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If the british nation is supposed to be the one nation, with one police force, why does it have to have black unions, moslem unions etc? The answer lies in the fact they detest the white people of this country. That is why the BNP must get into power to lead these so called policemen down the garden path and out the gate because they are not worth respect.
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I agree NAMP should exist. Unfortunately, it is a product of Labour’s obsession with “faith based communities”.
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While the threat is clearly not in the league of Muslim terrorists, the security services themselves have warned that the threat from right-wing extremists is being severely underestimated. I watched something last night which revealed that, pretty much hidden from the media, a white supremacist blew himself up outside a football stadium in Oklahoma in 2005. As the expert pointed out the only reason he got no coverage is he didn’t fit the scaremongerer’s image of a terrorist.
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Jason, I agree with your comments. Only a few nights ago I was discussing the existence of such groups within the police forces with a woman PC. She is totally against them (as are the other police that I know) and believes that there should be one association for all. She pointed out that not one of her fellow female officers are interested in the women officers’ association.
Very divisive!
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The government should be encouraging a common identity not a multitude of identities. Patriotism instead of multiculturalism.
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Well lets face it the NAMP are pushing Muslim interests & concerns, so they will play down the extremists on their side & play up the extremists as they see them elsewhere.
The police are supposed to be impartial & above politics but this lot aren’t.
I have generally found the police to be ineffectual at best, bogged down by red tape & politics.
Ian Blair (& others) brought politics into the police, especially with that “Vote Labour” on police cars which should have never been allowed.
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I generally find the Polis to be rude,uncaring,and bullies.Bullied at school,they now wear the badge of authority,and my god they wont be bullied anymore.
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WTF, no doubt about it, the police were deliberately tied hand and foot by red tape. This was to change the old idea of the british bobby, as say pc49, z cars etc. One constable held sway with large areas. The powers that be had to break this system, and break it they did, conived by all mainstream parties. You see, anything that seems to be detrimental to our country is never challenged by any of the great and good of whatever hue, but it is too far gone now, human rights etc etc. While we acquiesce to all these peculiar anchors on our society, including closing of factories, loss of earnings etc one nation surges ahead china. The police over there have no such stupid divisive unions etc in their ranks, they would not be allowed.
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Well I guess, how can I put this politely, that the Chinese police are, hmmm, all Chinese?
Have you seen those parades in that square (I have forgotten the name of it, senior moment) where they all look like clones of each other?
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Tianamen!
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That’s the one Sam, I am too old for blonde moments, it’s senior moments from now on!
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I know ,old age ,gets us all in the end.
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Nobody makes it out of here alive!
Rust never sleeps!
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I’m sorry johnny, I hadn’t been aware any such case had ever occured, or is prejudice as usual removing the need for evidence?
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To: James and the ‘Nothing British about the Tories’ team
You are contradicting yourselves again! The reason organisations like the NAMP are growing is due to your and the rest of the political establishment’s obsessive promotion of multi culturalism.
Don’t start complaining about the NAMP whilst encouraging hatred of the only party which opposes the creeping Islamification of Britain
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If nationalist groups are deemed by NB , to not to be a threat to British society, why is this website obsessed with the BNP…. maybe it has to do with cynical electioneering on behalf of the Torys.
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Good to see you’re tarring every opponent with the same brush, not at all like the “all BNP members are Nazi’s” brigade obviously.
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“Good to see you’re tarring every opponent with the same brush”
Yeah, thats equality for ya, why treat one opponent less favourably than another, especially when they’re all liars, buggers and cheats!
Thought you of all people would appreciate that Edmund!
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Funny, my argument is to not pre-judge anyone Davey. I suppose its quite handy to be able to judge people without having to risk actually getting to know what they’re really like.
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Mick
Can you find somewhere for these sorts of threads. I am deleting abusive, libelous and off-subject comments like these.
James.
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Well plenty do!
& some do kill in the name of Christ but Mohammed who Muslims are supposed to emulate seems to have been far more violent in life than Jesus & then there is the child bride thing.
But some could argue the Christianity we have here has been filtered & edited to have a softer feel to it.
I definitely think an edit facility to correct typo’s would be a good thing!
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Did you mean that?
“I agree NAMP should exist.”
Surely not!
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