Nothing British, in partnership with the Centre for Social Cohesion, have published a report by Edmund Standing and Alexander Meleagrou-Hitchens that highlights the potential threat from white supremacists committed to an agenda of violence against racial minorities.
Read the Blood_&_Honour report here.
The report is covered in today’s News of the World, here with Patrick Mercer MP calling for greater vigilance.
Denis MacShane MP writes in the forward to the report,
“Like their jihadist counterparts, neo-Nazis are filled with hate, are conspiratorial and are prepared (and determined) to use extreme violence to achieve their political aims. If we want to reduce the threat we face from far-right extremism, it is imperative that new systems be put in place, allowing pre-emptive strikes against this budding threat.”
The report lists three incidents of recent neo-Nazi-related threats:-
● In July, Yorkshire police raided a neo-Nazi terror cell with international links. They seized the largest suspected terrorist arsenal since the IRA bombings of the early 1990s. Twenty properties were raided and over 300 weapons and 80 bombs were discovered by counter-terrorism detectives. The hardware included rocket launchers, grenades, pipe bombs and dozens of firearms. Several people were charged, and over 30 were questioned over the incident.
● In September, Neil Lewington, a follower of B&H, was jailed indefinitely for attempting to launch a bombing campaign against non-white Britons. In his flat, police discovered a bomb-making factory and neo-Nazi literature. Court reports said that Lewington wanted to emulate his ‘heroes’ – David Copeland, the Soho bomber, and Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma bomber.
● In May, Terence Gavan, a card-carrying member of the BNP, was arrested after police raided his home. In January 2010, he was convicted on terrorism charges and sentenced to 11 years in prison, after a stockpile of nail and ball-bearing bombs, shotguns, improvised explosive devices and pistols was found at his house.
It is important not to overstate these neo-Nazi anecdotes. Britain is not about to turn into the Fourth Reich. Al-Queada remains the bigger threat.
However, it is important that we remain vigilant towards people with an ideological commitment to creating violence between people of different races. In 2001 security services tracked young Islamist radicals at outward bound camps that seemed harmless at the time. Four years later, some of those men had become terrorists who sought to kill innocent civilians on July 7 and 21, 2005.
We must not make the same mistake again.
Yet more sensationalist nonsense!
This has nothing to do with the BNP but everything to do with taking the spotlight away from muslim extremism even though we are on a ’severe’ alert footing because of them!
This is the mainstream trying to divert public concern & fear in a time of crisis in the run up to the General Election!
Truly nauseating!
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Davey you only need to look at who put the report together to see that it would be sensationalist nonsense and if NB has anything to do with it then its going to be as you said ‘Truly nauseating!’.Hot debate. What do you think?
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Davey,
In case you didn’t read to the bottom, the report makes it crystal clear that it is does not recommend that resources are switched from covering the threat of Islamist terrorism.
In fact, it was the complacency of our secret services towards the possibility of a home-grown terror threat that makes it all the more important that the police maintain sufficient coverage of the sort of white supremacists that advocate violence and inspire others to commit crimes against innocents.
It is important not to overstate these neo-Nazi anecdotes. Britain is not about to turn into the Fourth Reich. Al-Queada remains the bigger threat.
However, it is important that we remain vigilant towards people with an ideological commitment to creating violence between people of different races. In 2001 security services tracked young Islamist radicals at outward bound camps that seemed harmless at the time. Four years later, some of those men had become terrorists who sought to kill innocent civilians on July 7 and 21, 2005.
We must not make the same mistake again.
James.
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Well they shouldn’t be too hard to spot but at least they won’t be banging at your door looking for votes eh?
They’re probably at home reading the NOTW & going “Mum I got mench in the screws”!
I think you should worry about the jihadists as being more likely to get you, us, everybody.
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There seems to be an awful lot of white space in this report, should I read anything into that?
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Ahh I see why you have made an issue out of this, it is full of anti Zionism theories promoted by B&H with links to Nick Griffin, maybe being invited for a drink with some of them?
I used to think B&H was a brand of cigarettes until I came here!
They used to do surreal adverts, until they got banned.
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WTF
Weird conspiracy theories like these spoil a reasonable debate and end up getting deleted.
JB.
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I think the reason you get “lone wolves” is the fact, that there is such a small support network for such extreme views, it hasn’t become mainstream but you always have a few who think that way.
Most of it is fantasies of one sort or another, you have a handful who have acted out to varying degrees.
On the other hand jihadists have a world wide support network & plenty of support here as well.
Dealing with such a monster is a lot harder work than a handful of “lone wolves”.
The police, security services & politicians seem too lazy & prefer going for the easy target rather than something that has widespread support amongst a certain community.
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WTF
This was not the view of the police who we spoke to for the report.
JB.
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Denis MacShane MP would not be an authority on preserving national identity : I =think= (happy to be corrected)he’s the chap who changed his surname from that of his East European father to that of his mother , as his empoyers said it would be easier to pronounce.
But as Davey asked : what on Earth has this got to do with the BNP ??
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Old Denis should have sued!
Imagine an employer saying to someone these days “How about changing your name”?
They’d never hear the end of it!
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The worst extremism in the world today comes from zionists and islamists, not white Nationalists. This country needs neither zionists or islamists there is nothing Brithish about these cults/ religions, both need driving out of OUR country, out of all western countries. Scumbags, liars and parasites to a man.Hot debate. What do you think?
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Sayanim – abusive comments like these are deleted. JB.
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“It is important not to overstate these neo-Nazi anecdotes”.
Are you sure ? Because the second the public stop believing all this sensationalist drivel from the likes of NB and the Centre for Social Cohesion, Hope Not Hate, UAF, Searchlight and many others is the second that all the aforementioned would no longer need to exist.
Wouldn’t want to put yourselves out of a job now would you ? Parasites !
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Yes include the granddaddy of them all, the ECHR, Trevor’s empire in that lot.
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That’s it exactly! They are so thick that they don’t understand their own vulnerability. Look at the arch appeaser John – got a flea in his ear didn’t he?
As Davey says – no mercy will be shown even to those who fondly imagine they have turned themselves inside out to curry favour with the minorities.
I saw it all happen in Wanstead in the late 70s and this time it will be much worse.
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Sorry – that should be John Reid when he was Home Sec.
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In the words of Judith Popinski, a holocaust survivor living in Malmo, Sweden
“I never thought I would see this hatred again in my lifetime, not in Sweden anyway…This new hatred comes from Muslim immigrants. The Jewish people are afraid now.”
Perhaps NB would like to try convincing Mrs Popinski that it is the ‘far-right’ she should be worried about and not the Muslims who burnt down her local Synagogue.
You see NB while you’re running around chasing ghosts neo-Nazi Muslims are on the rise, a quick google search and you’ll find hundreds of images of sieg-heiling Muslims. Do these Muslims fit into your category of ‘racial minorities at risk from the far-right’?
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That’s strange! If anyone else mentions the “H” word, they get deleted!
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What a load of tosh NB god there is nothing British about you.When you see three massive British National armies surround London,then start getting worried.
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Perhaps you can explain to us how you square your comment with the democratic process.
Are the BNP planning a coup d’etat, a military siege or an election campaign?
Your party is simply unelectable.
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Just a reminder that anyone reading this site who is “not in the know” is that this site is funded partly by the lying tory party and there un-democratic friends. We must be doing something right as if we wern’t then they would still be snuffling around the corridors of Whitehall. It’s also funny how the three main (and corrupt) parties never agree on anything except one thing: the destruction of the BNP. Why’s that? It’s because they know that there corrupt days are numbered. Keep watching as the BNP are coming to a council near you. For the truth without any spin go to http://www.BNP.org.uk
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Wotan
This site is not funded by any political party, and definitely not by the Tory party.
James.
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I often thought that – it is so strange isn’t it? Hatred of the BNP is the one thing that unites Lib/Lab/Con. But it has just come out that the Tories have been doing “conjuring tricks” with their selection lists.Maybe the three main parties have always been united in their desire to destroy this country and they are terrified of the BNP because it tells the truth.
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Denis Mc Shane,another traitor that came from a commie father like Jacob Strawinski(Aka Jack Straw).Mc Shane was linked to fiddling or not?
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Hello Paul.
Mr.MacShane wrote a piece (Guardian , Tele , Times?) which defended the over-claiming of expenses by MPs by passing it off as “oversight / accident” – something along those lines.
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Well done that man! Abusive email deleted indeed!
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If all abusive posts were deleted, most of the subject headers would not exist!
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OK James, will this site last beyond the General Election?
If the BNP get 2 MP’s, is that a success or failure for you?
If the BNP are in Parliament, will you then continue in an effort to “expose” them?
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It would be fair enough for James to say “Ah but this site is for knocking the BNP, nothing else” but does he run a site where he discusses what to do about the jihad threat or why Zionsm or that lobby is a good thing?
Does James only see the BNP as the clear & present danger, the rest is not worth discussing as it is not a threat to this country?
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You only have to open and read your local papers, to be able to see who are responsible for the majority of gun crime, knfe attacks and mugging where I come from.
When we first moved here seven years ago, a couple of miles outside North London (we moved out with our children to escape this, white flight is the term used by many) the local papers reported the odd car broke into and smashed windows in the area, But year on year we have watched the levels increase, now knife and gun crime is out of control from the same people we moved away from.
All I want is for my Children my Family to feel safe and be safe. This is from personal experience also, over the years dealing with the public in my line of work.
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Exactly our experience – we fled in the nick (!) of time from Newham which I am told is almost a no go area for whites now. However where we are now is descending rapidly – but Liebour has left us all with nowhere to go!
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Tell you what James. Your a busy boy. All these weak defensive answers and deletions. Looks like the only people with any get up and go on this site are pro-BNP. What’s it like to be in a minority? Thought this site was about how nasty, illiterate and rascist we are. Seems it’s turned into BNP forum. Thanks
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That’s why he is stepping in & trying to get a grip on things.
I notice how I get held in a slow moderation lane while others get through even if they aren’t exactly pro-NB.
That tells me something.
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We did the same. Lived in Wandsworth for over 20 years but fled when the rascist crime became unbearable. My venom is reserved for the parasitic mp’s who have engineered us into this so they can line there own pockets. I hate, yes hate, them for putting us in this danger. The people who set up these sites annoy me, with there “holyer than though” attitudes as if were just hate laded bigots. I don’t want to worry about me and my family as I’ve better things to do but I have to because of them. I wonder were tory boy who runs this site lives?
PS to get round the “waiting for the moderater” carry on just change your name a bit
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Maybe not then
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You’ll find that there is nothing at all democratic about There’s Nothing British – they rule us with an iron rod – or a bundle of little sticks?
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Nothing British about suppression of free speech…
If NB are going to publish such mindless drivel it must be open to debate, I have seen nothing abusive on this site only insulting…
Insulting to British peoples intelligence if you think they’ll believe the dross you write! Do you really think the working classes are that stupid to believe the fantasy writings of a bunch of tory nit-wits!
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Yes, another of my posts disappeared. Possibly because it quoted NB’s German term for “4th Empire” and turned it back on them. Certainly old Adolf’s mob didn’t like free speech!
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british people have every right to take up arms and fight to stop this country being taken over and changed for ever our country has been invaded it is our democratic right to resist change by the ballot box or the bomb
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For James’ post: “Weird conspiracy theories like these spoil a reasonable debate and end up getting deleted.”
Please read: “Theories or facts that we don’t like these spoil our cosy beliefs and end up getting deleted.”
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But hilariously it was in his report, he brought it up as the whole driving force of the B&H believers.
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We all know where the real threat from terrorism comes from, not the odd white crackpot but groups of scheming muslims, some of their evil plans i reckon will even be hatched in mosqes !
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This website makes me laugh! I just had to see what sort of group this was. I am what is called a floating voter. Whilst not a member of the BNP I am British born and breed.
I have read with interest the BNP policies, as well as the other political parties and to be honest I cannot see what all the fuss is about??
However, having travelled a great deal, I can only state that we here in Britain are being dictated to by non-british groups to a far greater degree than possibly any other country in the world. We are bending over backwards to please and appease the minority, this is why goups like the BNP and other’s are increasing in number’s. I believe one day that racial tensions will reach breaking point, when this finally happen’s which terrorist side will you take??
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These people are the same as that hypocrite Billy Bragg, tell us how en-riched our cities are, from a safe place like Dorset. The people who love en-riching our country are the people who live outside the enriched areas.
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I have always felt that the very first place immigrants should go is Downing Street or maybe to a camp site in the grounds of Buckingham Palace (or to be fair the odd suite of rooms). The powers that be could have a nice old wallow in multiculturalism then.
Before Dave got his stranglehold a leading grandee of the Tory party wrote a piece about how it’s all very well for the ruling elite to impose mass immigration on this country – they don’t have to live with them.
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HM does not deserve to suffer because of the lunacy of politicians. Perhaps James and Maurice would not mind some new neighbours and lodgers…
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At the time I puzzled why a certain unpopular lady MP of marxist persuasion wore an anti – stab jacket while visiting a kebab shop in her constituency. Surely that was an admission that the multicultural experiment hadn’t worked?
Then it dawned on me. She had no shame or surprise because she knew perfectly well what had actually happened. Diverse groups of people have been abandoned to sink or swim in this country . Nothing has been put in place to aid integration and these immigrants are strangers in a strange land continuing the lives they led in their own countries.
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I saw a funny joke about that, with her running screaming from the kebab shop telling her bodyguard that the owner has a knife!
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Actually IMO this was one of the big lies fed to us by Liebour. They pretended to us that multiculturalism was integration whereas they told many immigrants that, in return for votes, they could live in their own little enclaves with their own leaders still in charge.
This is why we have had a bizarre situation where people, apparently desperate to come and live in this country, have no intention of embracing its culture.
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In the BBC series Muslim Driving School a little slip was made, a grandmother of about 59 said that she came to this country as a 13 year old married woman!
How was that allowed in the 1960’s?
How many more were allowed in like that?
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“We must not make the same mistake again.”
Indeed, don’t vote Conservative!
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REf my last,yes look at the year 1642,within 6 weeks men went from fighting in taverns to the battlefield,yes a Army can grow overnight,Annoy the British lion too much it will bite your head off
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@ ARMYBNP,
Just who do you intend to attack with this BNP army?
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Well it wont be Iraq or any other unfortunate Country that dares to have Oil http://www.bnp.org.uk
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i have to say that it always tickles me when ever i raise a sensible comment about immigration it is always the people who live in nice safe white areas that get offended…..why……or people who moan about immigration and then admit they voted lib/lab/con……as a first time bnp voter i dont feel a hypocrite when i criticize immigration because i havent voted for it.
it is the english that have mainly been selected for ethnic cleansing of this island.my parents are from london and have seen it change from a city that represented us to a third world slum…so much so that an english mp has to wear a stab jacket to go and visit it.we really have to wake up,put down our pints of beer and turn off sky sports and look at what we have done to our ancestors legacy.why is it wrong to want to live in a country dominated by our own kind…..they sure think its a good idea in muslim countries
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I haven’t voted for mass immigration & I guess most people haven’t consciously voted for it but if they continue to vote for the mainstream then they can’t moan about it, as they seem to be condoning it.
I suppose the white people in nice safe areas who get offended are a testament to the PC brainwashing along with the fact they don’t have experience of living in a multi-culti area.
Is there an area with a high percentage of non whites that has lower crime levels than an equivalent white area?
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Peter
I am only predicting 2 BNP MP’s at the moment & anymore would be dependent on how they performed.
Maybe ARMYBNP can clear up about the 3 armies around London.
At the moment it seems that the mosques can call out standing armies in Harrow at least.
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Every time a BNP member gets a parking ticket its made as if the BNP sponsored him.We have ten thousand foreign criminals in our prisons that need not be here.Most prison inmates are not BNP members.An un-invited trouble maker was ejected from a private BNP meeting as are thousands every day from pubs and clubs.It dosn`t come close to the disgracefull man handleling of that 82 year old man from the Blackpool labour conference.Oh and why is Gormless in the papers to day for bullying staff at no 10?
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Because it ok when they do it but not when we do it?
Good old fashioned hypocrisy at its best, I think.
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Now now AA don’t put him off his lunch!
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Whose keeping vigil over the supremacists of all other colours?
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Abusive emails are deleted.
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Perhaps the police might not have missed the home-grown terrorists if their time was not wasted with nonsense like this!
“Fourth Reich”? Get a grip man!
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“complacency of our secret services”
Yes you said it!
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“In fact, it was the complacency of our secret services”
Nothing British about slagging off our secret services Lord Bethell!
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James does not understand the term “sayanim”!
He had better go to Wikipedia.
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Jeff Gates did an interesting short documentary, its called ‘a closer look at Israel’s role in terrorism’, youtube.
After the Lavon affair you can’t trust the Zionists.
The attack on USS Liberty asks many questions, all still to be answered.
And as for the religion of peace, don’t even go there.
My enemy’s enemy is NOT always my friend.
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Maurice could probably explain that one to James.
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But er I can still see it – I might get offended!
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“Keep watching as the BNP are coming to a council near you”.
Nonsense!
The BNP are losing councillors and haven’t won a council by-election for well over a year. They came last in two council by-elections this past week and failed to nominate in another by-election where they had previously stood a candidate. They also came last in four by-elections the previous week. Hardly the performance of a party preparing for power!
They recently lost one of their safest council seats in Nuneaton and the leader of the BNP group on Stoke council resigned from the party and will fight the BNP candidate in the forthcoming general election!
The BNP may win the battle for newspaper column inches and shocking headlines but it is votes that they need and their votes are going down, not up.
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OK it maybe technically true that this site is not funded by the Conservative party.
But I doubt if anyone who comes here doubts that you are all Conservative to the core & in support of David Cameron as PM.
Why deny it, nobody believes it as all the evidence points to it?
Are you ashamed of being Conservatives?
Is it a political belief that dares not speak its name?
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Ah well Peter, then you have nothing to fear?
Vote Conservative & all will be well.
Won’t it?
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Well someone must be funding it considering the amount of time you all spend overseeing the comments – or do you do it from work?
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I think James serves a greater master who favours the Conservative party & this site serves those interests.
But why a powerful man with interests across the world would be worried by the BNP puzzles me?
Maybe things are more fragile than we know?
One good push & over it goes?
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Hang on a mo’ that is in the report, those are not my theories.
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Curious this. Text that concerns Zionism and Anti-Semitism, though completely irrelevant to the issue at hand, feature here CONSTANTLY as the work of Mr Mark Cousins. The former employee of the Conservative Friends of Israel. The one last week on Griffin’s attendance of an anti-Islam conference, that erm…, didn’t at all mention Islam; was a particularly stuniing example.
But DARE to make a comment that concerns these subjects as a visitor to this site, and it will be dismissed as irrelevant or conspiracy theorizing and marked for deletion.
Would this be an accurate indication of Nothing British’s, to coin a phrase, “uneasy relationship” with freedom of speech Mr Bethell? (Curious also, isn’t it, how the highest rated comments are the one you choose to redact?)
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Well they would say that, that is the point I am making.
They play up this as it is the easier option that dealing with a world wide threat.
Who is more likely to set off a nuclear device?
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Who are “we” James? Are you talking about the Conservative party or do you have some hotline to the police. If the latter, then I would worry about the impartiality of the police bosses (I already do). Is it a Masonic thing? Of course, it might all be in your head…
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Could be a royal “we”?
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You can’t be a denier but you can’t discuss it either?
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I don’t think ARMYBNP meant that by what he said.
My reading of it is, “IF” London was surrounded by 3 massive British National Armies, then get worried, the inference being, that London is surrounded by a different sort of army now.
So worry about that.
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Don’t be ridiculous. How can any political party be unelectable?
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Peter. Your saying that your party is? The tory party are just a bunch of self serving parrasites who have decieved, cajouled and destroyed this country. I’d rather have George Galloway in charge than any of the three main parties. You, my son, are a fool who’ll toe the party line as long as your getting your pieces of silver.
http://www.bnp.org.uk
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I use the term unelectable in its standard meaning; to refer to a politician or party that will never appeal to enough voters to be elected.
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How do you know?
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“Your party is simply unelectable.”
That statement, Peter, is obviously & patently untrue, as the BNP have elected representatives.
Even you talk about their councilors.
Again we will see what the election brings.
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Fair enough WTF, I take your point. I used sloppy English.
What I meant was that the BNP will never be elected to a position of real power in this country.
However, I am not at all convinced by your efforts to reinterpret ARMYBNP’s comment.
He was threatening his political opponents with military force. It was obviously an idle threat, probably from a Walter Mitty type character, but the BNP seems to attract people like that.
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Same as. Lived in Wandsworth for 20 years but moved due to the increasing rise of rascist crime and with my wife nearly getting raped. And they wonder how we become so bitter. I dislike the politicians more for putting us and our families in this danger
http://www.bnp.org.uk
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Russell Family Man, Wotan, MLJ, spot on comments! The Tory boys running the NB site just cannot relate to people in the real world, living as they do in their gated communities or family country estates. They have a deep rooted contempt for those ‘waycist’ oiks who dare to challenge the LibLabCon regime’s multi cult master plan.
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Hmm….not quite sure how my effort to say someone wrote a newspaper article can get a “dislike” ! Oh well , glad I am British and slow to feel offended
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Some trolls just vote “Dislike” because they can but have nothing intelligent to say about why they dislike the comment.
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So this site is not funded by the Conservative Party? Good. I am sure that there are still many in that party with secret sympathies with much of what BNP says.
So James, who are the “we” referred to in your post about conversing the the police?
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Agreed – I wouldn’t want to inflict anything on HM but it just might encourage her to say or do something!
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Is that 59 kids?
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Almost Required, almost!
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Hmmmmm! I wonder…?
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ARMYBNP’s phrase “From fighting in taverns to the battlefield” reminds me of an old refrain that was used to parody the Trotskyist left. “The revolution begins at closing time!”
Perhaps one day someone will make a BNP version of the old BBC classic Citizen Smith. He’d need a name change. How about Citizen Schmidt – Lone Wolfy?
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No Peter, stick with Smith, good English name!
“Is that with 2 F’s or 3, son?”
Mind you wasn’t it all done & dusted with Alf Garnett?
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Dave, “we” havn’t made this mess. Sucssesive governments since the 50’s have engineered this mess. Now the lie is that immigrants came here and still do to do the jobs that we (the native Briton) wont do. NO, incorrect, immigrants do the Jobs we wont do for the measly pay offered. Desprate immigrants will, driving pay and conditions downward. This is all encouraged by the government backed Unions who also dont care.
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