The BNP would end all further immigration, expel all illegal immigrants, and encourage Britons of other ethnicities to migrate through a generous system of repatriation grants. (source)
The BNP’s policy remains unclear, as the party continues its attempt to modernise its image, and present itself as a mainstream nationalist party. What seems certain is that at a minimum all further immigration would be halted, and a witch hunt to expel illegal immigrants begun. What seems likely is that all Britain’s ethnic minorities would be first encouraged and then compelled to leave Britain, so that the UK could be left to its “indigenous population.”
The BNP claims that any immigration is a vast threat to both Britain’s economy and culture. Near the complete opposite is true. The BNP’s policy would not only remove key workers from our economy, but by shutting us off from the world, destroy many of our world leading industries.
Here are some of the key effects the BNP policy would have:
- End the global transfer of skills and ideas. Britain is a world leader in universities and research, in finances and business services, in the media, art and fashion. These industries rely on being able to recruit the best and brightest from all across the world, to network in our cities and spark ideas off each other. Take two American examples : in the US, Hollywood is the home of the entertainment industry, where Asian Directors, Australian stars and British writers can work together to produce films enjoyed all over the work. In Silicon Valley, the home of technology, the leaders of the web revolution Google, eBay and Yahoo were all co-founded by immigrants.
- Destroy our world leading industries. If a British film can’t use an Australian director or a startup an Indian programmer, then those industries will simply lead. Our brightest and best will leave us for climates where they’re more welcome.
- We’d all lose jobs. Whenever any industry closes, the rest of the economy suffers. It’s not just their taxes we’d lose (although that would bankrupt our treasury), but the demand and money they bring to the economy. With our high skilled workers no longer buying goods at our shops, hiring plumbers for their house or eating at their local restaurant, then suddenly retailers, plumbers and waiters lose out too.
- Immigrants do the jobs that nobody else wants to. In reality immigration doesn’t have to be a threat to British workers. It can be a complement to British workers, not a substitute. Polish plumbers, Filipino nannies and Afro Carribean nurses provide jobs that there simply aren’t enough British people who can or want to do.
- Public services wrecked. The NHS would be devastated without its foreign staff; more than half the newly registered doctors between 1992-2002 qualified outside Britain. The Army would lose 10% of its manpower. Education loses its cleaning staff.
- Services become more expensive. Just as the BNP’s tariffs and bans on imports would make goods more expensive, their ban on immigration would make services more expensive too. It would become more expensive to eat take out food, hire an electrician or a plumber, or a nurse to look after the elderly. As usual, the BNP’s policy would leave the lives of the rich relatively unchanged but hurt the poor worst.
In summary, the BNP’s policy would devastate the strongest parts of the British economy, cause a wider recession that would hit us all, and raise the price of basic services to levels that only the rich could afford.
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I think the complexity of the phenomenon of immigration needs to be appreciated. For example, Filipino nurses do a great job in Cambridge, not least because their culture teaches them to care for and value the sick, and also in the Philippines anybody who wants to get any sort of post-school certificate must learn English.
Now, as members of the EU, we must give priority to citizens of other member countries who want to come and work here; people the BNP would not be unhappy about, but who can often not speak a word of English. Once again, the BNP reveals itself as a system without a brain.
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“These industries rely on being able to recruit the best and brightest from all across the world”
Yes, they deny indigenous people jobs and rob other nations of talent!
“The NHS would be devastated without its foreign staff”
And the NHS will be devastated anyway catering for immigrants with AIDS!
The underlying message the tories are trying to put across is that immigrants are peasants who will work for a pittance and therefore keep prices down. What they don’t seem to realize is that when these people are being exploited be it through outsourcing, cheap imports or cheap labour, it denies British people the employment they would normally have!
That means they have to be supported by the state, which leads to social breakdown and higher taxation for those lucky enough to still be working.
But as we have learned the tories love unemployment as it creates a pool of potential slave labour for them to exploit! CaMORON has stated his intentions to force someone out of work for 3 months into unpaid work or lose everything – even the roof over their heads!
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Davey – take Google, co-founded by Larry Page and Sergey Brin. Sergey Brin was a Russian immigrant to America. Do you believe that by starting Google he ’stole’ a job from an American? Or do you think its more likely that by creating a $30 billion dollar company with 20,000 employees worldwide he created jobs instead?
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Another “policy focus” churned out by the NB simpletons! As usual, so many mis-truths and flaws in the NB argument but, in true Tory tradition, the underlying theme is that everything is justified in the pursuit of profit for the few.
This is the fundamental difference between the globalist and the nationalist. The former is soley motivated by greed, whether it’s maintaining the low wage economy, the plundering of 3rd world skills, or the deliberate destruction of our industrial base. The latter is motivated by love of nation & its people and the desire to build a strong, sustainable national economy.
No wonder none of the establishment politicians want to debate with the BNP!
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Jim, on the contrary, its because I want the best for Britain that I want it to take part the in world class industries of the future. I believe in our country – I don’t think we need to hide away from the rest of the world.
On the other hand, its not really about what I or you believe, but what the empirical evidence and economics shows. What were the parts you disagreed with?
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Empirical evidence eh?
So we have had mass immigration followed by terrorism & recession.
There are also a lot of crimes that can also be linked to immigration & immigrants.
I am not claiming that the British don’t commit crimes but there is a definite layer that is immigration related.
Also nobody cares about the damage that has been done by emigration, the white flight, of people who are unhappy with the way the country is or was going & who voted with their feet.
A lot of money & talent was lost that way.
When a country starts to fail, it is always the brightest, richest, most mobile that get out first.
They’re the true canaries in the coalmine.
The super rich & establishment types tend to be insulated from their own works or profit from them.
The present government & possibly the next will quite happily bring in immigrants to fill any holes they think need plugging while having 8 million economically inactive.
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Immigrants do NOT do the jobs that other people will not do – immigrants cut the wages. I was having a drink the other day with a bloke from the ex-USSR who works as a security guard on a building site. If he had been refused access to the UK then one of my nephews from Nelson could have taken that job, but not at £5.80 an hour and not by living in someone’s spare room for fifty quid a week. Council flats would have to be built.
The role of the foreign worker is to keep the wages down, the unions out and the middle class happy.
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theres often an underlying pc racist theme to these articles that “the english/british/whites are inherently lazy/stupid/etc and would simply die out without the support of the black/chinese/etc super workers who never tire/get old/ goof off etc and have superior intellect. well, dont be surprised if the inferior white people manage to dig thereselves out of this hole as they have always done in the past
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JE, I have to say I think the complete opposite is true. There’s often this patronising message from the BNP that they don’t believe Britain can compete with Asia, that we’re just not good enough and have to bunker ourselves down. I don’t buy that.
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Exile & WTF – you’re right. Theoretically, immigrants have two effects. The Sergey effect that creates jobs on one side and the security guard effect on the other where jobs are taken.
The key question then becomes which is stronger: job creation or job destruction? And we can’t decide that by exchanging anecdotes, but instead have to look at some data.
Luckily, there are people both smarter and more knowledgeable than any of us about this sort of thing, and they’ve spent a lot of time looking at precisely this question. You can find out a typical report here http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/uploaded_files/new_europeans.pdf
It turns out, at worse, that the Sergey and security guard effects cancel out. Immigration just doesn’t seem to have any effect on jobs or wages.
What does it seems have a big impact is the progress of technology, as factories and the like get more and more mechanised. But stopping immigration wouldn’t change that process at all. It’s a red herring.
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Yeah, so we are supposed to take this as holy writ are we and forget the source where it comes from? Tell you what, why not quote something from Migration Watch?
To be honest, highly skilled workers and wealthy investors have always been allowed in so the issue is not that type of immigration. However, there is a difference between a couple of thousand foreigners a year coming in under such schemes and the untold hundreds of thousands who flood in at the moment.
The two types may indeed cancel each other out when it comes to figures on a chart, but that is not the reality on the ground. There, unskilled and semi-skilled British workers are getting shafted by non-unionised foreign workers who will accept lower wages and conditions than their British counterparts.
We have to control either the supply of labour or the means by which it produces its surplus. The former is via strict immigration controls and the latter by strong unions. I favour a mixture of both.
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WTF, I’m as puzzled as you are! Maybe Jonathan can’t handle the multiple demolition of his latest “policy focus”.
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Jim, I just wanted to understand why you disagreed with our article. Thanks.
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“Immigrants do the jobs that nobody else wants to”
Because the bosses are exploitative and pay minimum wages , perhaps ?
Following the GFC , however , there are plenty of people who would take jobs they would not have considered previously.
“Education loses its cleaning staff.”
Maybe that’s true – but what a patronising comment !
And Chelsea lose a team
Why no mention of how certain classes of immigrants create jobs – for social workers , interpreters , lawyers and others ?
You should read the words of Sir Andrew Greene on Migrationwatch – he shatters the myth of the benefits of mass immigration.
I find it curious that Conservative advocates of immgration rarely live in he same areas which have been “enriched” by the process.
Why is that so ?
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Which Andrew Green article were you referring to Nicholas?
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OK I see what Jim thinks!
This what I think according to my “empirical evidence”, for a start I don’t have much faith in a report that has the EHRC stamp on it.
They have an empire to build & maintain.
White British (born here) people don’t figure much in their brave new inclusive world.
Their idea of human rights seems different to mine for a start.
Having done or applied for jobs “that white men don’t do”, I see them full of immigrants & ethnic minorities, as mass immigration kicked in, the quotas that big business have to fill, get ever bigger leaving my kind out in the cold, with ample opportunity to come here & tell you why you are wrong as you sit in your cozy office.
One day when I am passing your place in the Sanctuary I’ll have to press my face up against the glass, unless you are on the first floor!
I know one thing if the tide turns, that’ll be the end of the Guardian as it gets by on all those lucrative job ads for outreach, diversity, rainbow nation, multi culti, all singing & dancing, social working, touchy feely, hug a hoodie, community spokesperson, chair, tax eating parasites that can’t survive without the blood of working white people or anyone else who actually pays tax & doesn’t claim it all back in benefits.
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I have just phoned a famous recruitment agency with a colour in their name, they are sending 100’s of people for interviews at a warehouse that services a huge chain of shops.
But the warehouse admits there are no vacancies & are unlikely to be in the short to medium term.
They have laid people off recently.
So what the hell is going on here?
It’s a scam of some sort, adding to the illusion that the economy is picking up but is actually probably about to go off a cliff & you lucky Conservatives are going to inherit it.
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Hi all, first time on this site, reading some of your comments, most of you go along with it will be alright in the end idea, i beleive if your born British and support the way we live says to me you can be any colour you want, if you want to change our culture to yours (if your family are of immigrant status) then i would disagree with that aspect of immigration, hundreds of years of this countrys culture has atracted the millions that flock here from around the world, our benifits, housing, taking jobs that our young do before they decide what line of employment is most suited to them, like most of us did, over a million NI numbers given out to immigrants in 2008, no supprise then we have the highest on record out of work, most of our workers have mortgages etc to pay, the immigrant, as Exile says £50. quid a week each, five in room we can’t complete with that, it will take a specical goverment to put this country back to where it was before Labour took over, to all of you who think we wont survive with out immigrants, NHS would come to halt, we used to do very well with out them, BRITAIN IS FULL and more important our young people need to work, and not to think there worthless as some do now.
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sam pauli another commie bites the dust, the terms for your surrender are acceptable (commie loser)
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The BNP do NOT have a problem with law abiding ethnic minorities ALREADY in Britain, they just want to stop all further immigration, deport illegal immigrants & bogus asylum seekers.
The BNP’s policy is to:
- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;
- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;
- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;
- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;
- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;
- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.
Britain should stop importing workers from the rest of the world and we should start training up our own people.
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Sounds good to me Sam!
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Yes well Sergey is the exception to the rule, for every one of him there are a thousand or more who aren’t.
If all immigrants were like that, then fine, we wouldn’t be having this discussion & the BNP wouldn’t exist.
But they aren’t, we are & they do.
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Jonathan, I agree, Britain should not “hide away”, but your argument for unrestricted movement of people and resources around the world, driven soley by the profit goal, will inevitably lead to the destruction of Britain as a strong independent nation! We will then be “hidden away” by default as a non entity satellite state, dependent on the global corporate leviathan for its survival, ie, imported labour, imported food, imported manufactured goods, imported energy etc.
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Jim, why do you think that?
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Jonathan ,
Please read the site . Among the articles was one which determined that immgrants contributed , on average , the value of one Mars Bar per year to the economy.
Let’s not mess around here – Griffin et al do not have a problem with “nice,civilised” European types . Their problem is with the leeching parasitic third-world freeloaders who gain so much whilst contributing so little.
Economic considerations aside , Britain does not have sufficient land and resources to sustain current rates of population growth.
When will the absolute crisis-point be reached ?
A few commentators say 2030 , but I suspect much sooner.
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Nicholas, I have read the site.
Where does it point to evidence that immigrants cut wages and cause unemployment?
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“The two types may indeed cancel each other out when it comes to figures on a chart, but that is not the reality on the ground.”
What do you mean? That you don’t think the evidence is complete?
What evidence are you using then?
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I don’t need to go to any site for evidence, I have seen it for myself at first hand.
There’s an illusion of jobs but for most people like me that’s all it is.
When you look into it you find that ethnic minorities or immigrants are always ahead in the queue.
Even when you pass an interview, it turns out to be a short list for vacancies but then the vacancies don’t materialise, so the whole thing is a sham.
“When you get there, there is no there, there”!
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WTF, I’m genuinely sorry. It can be really hard to get a job, and I think its fair to say that politicians haven’t done a whole lot to help.
If we truly want to do something about the problem, then we have to understand it – and to understand it we need hard data. And my or yours or anyone else’s anecdotal evidence is just too unreliable. Our gut instinct and various cognitive biases make it too easy to believe something that turns out to be wrong, and then in turn we implement the wrong solutions.
These issues are complicated. And its by no means unreasonable to originally suspect that immigration took jobs, even if the data showed that not to be the case. What is unreasonable is the kind of headline the BNP put out today “British People Put Last: 1.3 Million Jobs Gone to Foreign Workers” (http://bnp.org.uk/2010/02/british-people-put-last-1-3-million-jobs-gone-to-foreign-workers/), pretending the Sergey job creation effect we talked about earlier doesn’t exist. That’s not reasoned argument or trying to take part in the debate – it’s cheap scapegoating.
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Where did you get that notion from Jonathan?
Would it be because the BNP believe some shitty jobs should be carried out in the far-east, polluting their own environment for a pittance instead of wasting our own talent and environment?
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