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	<title>Comments on: Policy Focus #11: How the BNP’s immigration policy would destroy Britain&#8217;s economy</title>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds good to me Sam!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Sounds good to me Sam!</p>
</div><p>Hot debate. What do you think? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40151" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40151', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40151-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">9</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40151" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40151', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40151-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">2</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BNP do NOT have a problem with law abiding ethnic minorities ALREADY in Britain, they just want to stop all further immigration, deport illegal immigrants &amp; bogus asylum seekers.

The BNP’s policy is to:

- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;

- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;

- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;

- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;

- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;

- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.

Britain should stop importing workers from the rest of the world and we should start training up our own people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>The BNP do NOT have a problem with law abiding ethnic minorities ALREADY in Britain, they just want to stop all further immigration, deport illegal immigrants &amp; bogus asylum seekers.</p>
<p>The BNP’s policy is to:</p>
<p>- Deport all the two million plus who are here illegally;</p>
<p>- Deport all those who commit crimes and whose original nationality was not British;</p>
<p>- Review all recent grants of residence or citizenship to ensure they are still appropriate;</p>
<p>- Offer generous grants to those of foreign descent resident here who wish to leave permanently;</p>
<p>- Stop all new immigration except for exceptional cases;</p>
<p>- Reject all asylum seekers who passed safe countries on their way to Britain.</p>
<p>Britain should stop importing workers from the rest of the world and we should start training up our own people.</p>
</div><p>Hot debate. What do you think? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40130" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40130', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40130-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">14</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40130" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40130', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40130-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">4</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: j e</title>
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		<dc:creator>j e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sam pauli another commie bites the dust, the terms for your surrender are acceptable (commie loser)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>sam pauli another commie bites the dust, the terms for your surrender are acceptable (commie loser)</p>
</div><p>Hot debate. What do you think? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40118" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40118', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40118-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">6</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40118" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40118', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40118-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">2</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Davey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 18:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where did you get that notion from Jonathan?

Would it be because the BNP believe some shitty jobs should be carried out in the far-east, polluting their own environment for a pittance instead of wasting our own talent and environment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Where did you get that notion from Jonathan?</p>
<p>Would it be because the BNP believe some shitty jobs should be carried out in the far-east, polluting their own environment for a pittance instead of wasting our own talent and environment?</p>
</div><p>Hot debate. What do you think? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40100" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40100', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40100-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">8</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40100" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40100', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40100-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">2</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: rcc</title>
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		<dc:creator>rcc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, first time on this site, reading some of your comments, most of you go along with it will be alright in the end idea, i beleive if your born British and support the way we live says to me you can be any colour you want, if you want to change our culture to yours (if your family are of immigrant status) then i would disagree with that aspect of immigration, hundreds of years of this countrys culture has atracted the millions that flock here from around the world, our benifits, housing, taking jobs that our young do before they decide what line of employment is most suited to them, like most of us did, over a million NI numbers given out to immigrants in 2008, no supprise then we have the highest on record out of work, most of our workers have mortgages etc to pay, the immigrant, as Exile says £50. quid a week each, five in room we can&#039;t complete with that, it will take a specical goverment to put this country back to where it was before Labour took over, to all of you who think we wont survive with out immigrants, NHS would come to halt, we used to do very well with out them, BRITAIN IS FULL and more important our young people need to  work, and not to think there worthless as some do now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>Hi all, first time on this site, reading some of your comments, most of you go along with it will be alright in the end idea, i beleive if your born British and support the way we live says to me you can be any colour you want, if you want to change our culture to yours (if your family are of immigrant status) then i would disagree with that aspect of immigration, hundreds of years of this countrys culture has atracted the millions that flock here from around the world, our benifits, housing, taking jobs that our young do before they decide what line of employment is most suited to them, like most of us did, over a million NI numbers given out to immigrants in 2008, no supprise then we have the highest on record out of work, most of our workers have mortgages etc to pay, the immigrant, as Exile says £50. quid a week each, five in room we can&#8217;t complete with that, it will take a specical goverment to put this country back to where it was before Labour took over, to all of you who think we wont survive with out immigrants, NHS would come to halt, we used to do very well with out them, BRITAIN IS FULL and more important our young people need to  work, and not to think there worthless as some do now.</p>
</div><p>Hot debate. What do you think? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40086" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40086', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40086-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">11</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40086" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40086', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40086-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just phoned a famous recruitment agency with a colour in their name, they are sending 100&#039;s of people for interviews at a warehouse that services a huge chain of shops.
But the warehouse admits there are no vacancies &amp; are unlikely to be in the short to medium term.
They have laid people off recently.

So what the hell is going on here?
It&#039;s a scam of some sort, adding to the illusion that the economy is picking up but is actually probably about to go off a cliff &amp; you lucky Conservatives are going to inherit it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just phoned a famous recruitment agency with a colour in their name, they are sending 100&#8217;s of people for interviews at a warehouse that services a huge chain of shops.<br />
But the warehouse admits there are no vacancies &amp; are unlikely to be in the short to medium term.<br />
They have laid people off recently.</p>
<p>So what the hell is going on here?<br />
It&#8217;s a scam of some sort, adding to the illusion that the economy is picking up but is actually probably about to go off a cliff &amp; you lucky Conservatives are going to inherit it.</p>
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40083" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40083', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40083-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">5</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40083" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40083', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40083-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jonathan.dupont</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan.dupont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF, I&#039;m genuinely sorry. It can be really hard to get a job, and I think its fair to say that politicians haven&#039;t done a whole lot to help.

If we truly want to do something about the problem, then we have to understand it - and to understand it we need hard data. And my or yours or anyone else&#039;s anecdotal evidence is just too unreliable. Our gut instinct and various cognitive biases make it too easy to believe something that turns out to be wrong, and then in turn we implement the wrong solutions. 

These issues are complicated. And its by no means unreasonable to originally suspect that immigration took jobs, even if the data showed that not to be the case. What is unreasonable is the kind of headline the BNP put out today &quot;British People Put Last: 1.3 Million Jobs Gone to Foreign Workers&quot; (http://bnp.org.uk/2010/02/british-people-put-last-1-3-million-jobs-gone-to-foreign-workers/), pretending the Sergey job creation effect we talked about earlier doesn&#039;t exist. That&#039;s not reasoned argument or trying to take part in the debate - it&#039;s cheap scapegoating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF, I&#8217;m genuinely sorry. It can be really hard to get a job, and I think its fair to say that politicians haven&#8217;t done a whole lot to help.</p>
<p>If we truly want to do something about the problem, then we have to understand it &#8211; and to understand it we need hard data. And my or yours or anyone else&#8217;s anecdotal evidence is just too unreliable. Our gut instinct and various cognitive biases make it too easy to believe something that turns out to be wrong, and then in turn we implement the wrong solutions. </p>
<p>These issues are complicated. And its by no means unreasonable to originally suspect that immigration took jobs, even if the data showed that not to be the case. What is unreasonable is the kind of headline the BNP put out today &#8220;British People Put Last: 1.3 Million Jobs Gone to Foreign Workers&#8221; (<a href="http://bnp.org.uk/2010/02/british-people-put-last-1-3-million-jobs-gone-to-foreign-workers/" rel="nofollow">http://bnp.org.uk/2010/02/british-people-put-last-1-3-million-jobs-gone-to-foreign-workers/</a>), pretending the Sergey job creation effect we talked about earlier doesn&#8217;t exist. That&#8217;s not reasoned argument or trying to take part in the debate &#8211; it&#8217;s cheap scapegoating.</p>
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40081" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40081', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40081-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40081" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40081', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40081-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">0</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: WTF</title>
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		<dc:creator>WTF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t need to go to any site for evidence, I have seen it for myself at first hand.
There&#039;s an illusion of jobs but for most people like me that&#039;s all it is.
When you look into it you find that ethnic minorities or immigrants are always ahead in the queue.

Even when you pass an interview, it turns out to be a short list for vacancies but then the vacancies don&#039;t materialise, so the whole thing is a sham.
&quot;When you get there, there is no there, there&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t need to go to any site for evidence, I have seen it for myself at first hand.<br />
There&#8217;s an illusion of jobs but for most people like me that&#8217;s all it is.<br />
When you look into it you find that ethnic minorities or immigrants are always ahead in the queue.</p>
<p>Even when you pass an interview, it turns out to be a short list for vacancies but then the vacancies don&#8217;t materialise, so the whole thing is a sham.<br />
&#8220;When you get there, there is no there, there&#8221;!</p>
<p>Like or Dislike: <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40067" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40067', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40067-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40067" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40067', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40067-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">1</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jonathan.dupont</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan.dupont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The two types may indeed cancel each other out when it comes to figures on a chart, but that is not the reality on the ground.&quot;

What do you mean? That you don&#039;t think the evidence is complete? 

What evidence are you using then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div style="background-color:#FFF0F5 !important"><p>&#8220;The two types may indeed cancel each other out when it comes to figures on a chart, but that is not the reality on the ground.&#8221;</p>
<p>What do you mean? That you don&#8217;t think the evidence is complete? </p>
<p>What evidence are you using then?</p>
</div><p>Hot debate. What do you think? <img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="up-40065" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_up.png" alt="Thumb up" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40065', 'add', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_');" title="Thumb up" /> <small id="karma-40065-up" style="font-size:12px; color:#009933;">2</small>&nbsp;<img style="padding: 0px; border: none; cursor: pointer;" onmouseover="this.width=this.width*1.3" onmouseout="this.width=this.width/1.2" id="down-40065" src="http://www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/images/1_14_down.png" alt="Thumb down" onclick="javascript:ckratingKarma('40065', 'subtract', 'www.nothingbritish.com/wp-content/plugins/comment-rating/', '1_14_')" title="Thumb down" /> <small id="karma-40065-down" style="font-size:12px; color:#990033;">9</small></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jonathan.dupont</title>
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		<dc:creator>jonathan.dupont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicholas, I have read the site.

Where does it point to evidence that immigrants cut wages and cause unemployment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicholas, I have read the site.</p>
<p>Where does it point to evidence that immigrants cut wages and cause unemployment?</p>
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