Policy Focus #17: Why the BNP would bankrupt Britain

BRITAIN-BUDGET/The BNP has promised a hugely expensive program. They plan to abolish student loans; halve council tax; abolish income tax; boost NHS staff by 100,000;  reopen grammar schools; build new high speed railways; abolish BBC license fee; abolish car tax…

Over the last few years, the BNP have launched a massive shopping list of promises. They’ll build new schools, hire more doctors (and pay them better too), revolutionise our transport infrastructure, create a new English parliament, secure our borders, invent new energy sources and up the spending on drug rehabilitation a thousand times. Taxes would go plummeting down: no more income tax, council tax halved, the licence fee and car tax scrapped.

In a world where Britain has a £125 bn structural deficit, how is this all to be paid for?

In the BNP’s world, there are no hard choices. No prioritisation. Everything can be paid for by ending foreign aid or removing immigrants. The looming fiscal crisis of little important.

The BNP haven’t had to worry how to afford this, as they haven’t bothered to add up the cost.

Luckily, we’ve done it for them[1]:

-          One off spending commitments. To start with, the BNP plans to build a high speed railway and bring back grammar schools will cost together at least £50 bn. Those costs are likely to be dwarfed however by their commitment, to buy back utilities and foreign companies in Britain. This figure is likely to run into the hundreds of billions.

-          Annual spending increases. The BNP has proposed at last another £30 bn of spending increases every year. The vast majority of that will go on the BNP’s anti immigration agenda, increasing the spending on border controls and creating a massive system of resettlement grants.

-          Tax cuts. The BNP’s twin tax breaks for the rich, raising the income and inheritance tax thresholds, will cost £28 bn. On top of this, the BNP has promised a further £25 bn of populist tax cuts – halving council tax, abolishing the BBC licence fee and car tax discs and getting rid of tuition fees.

-          Spending cuts. The BNP has proposed no new policies to close the deficit in the wake of the financial crisis. Instead they insist their old policies, mostly concentrated on stopping foreign aid, leaving the EU and ending the war in Afghanistan will be enough. We work out their savings at about £37 bn.

-          Tax raises. So how do the BNP plan to regain revenue? By increasing taxes on the poor – around £100 bns worth, the lion’s share being taken up by an £80 bn tariff.

-          The loss of Britain’s world leading industries. As we’ve previously discussed, the BNP’s plans to shut down our borders, make Britain’s minorities second class citizens and increase regulation and tariffs would send British industries fleeing from our economy. The results would be devastating to our economy: a massive drop in tax revenue, and increase in the welfare bill as more people signed onto the dole. Losing the financial services industry alone would cost £34 bn.

It’s not so much that there’s a black hole in the BNP’s spending plans, as massive uncertainty. Even if we ignored their one off spending commitments and the loss of British companies, their policies would only make up for half the deficit. That they raise that much is only possible due to their massive £80 bn tariff that would hit ordinary families hardest – but the real amount raised could easily be far, far less.

With no attempt to cost their policies, the BNP has no credibility on the economy and with no credibility on the economy, they have no credibility on any other policy either.

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[1] While due to the BNP’s own lack of precision in their policy these should be considered back of the envelope figures, there’ll be full details of our costing in our forthcoming report Britain Under the BNP


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43 Responses to “Policy Focus #17: Why the BNP would bankrupt Britain”

  1. Nationalist says:

    Yes, but look at the savings the BNP will make.

    Leaving the EU: Save £120bn (says the Centre for Policy Studies; including fees and compliance costs.)

    Repatriating 3 million immigrants and letting Brits have their jobs: Save £100bn (That’s half the benefits bill, the other half is for old folks and very much protected by the BNP.)

    Not wasting money on diversity training, outreach programmes, social inclusion coordinators, perks for asylum seekers, eat-fruit-and-veg advisors, failed NHS IT programmes, failed military procurement, MPs’ expenses, pointless foreign wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, arresting, trying and incarcerating immigrant criminals, millennium domes: Difficult to quantify but you should be able to squeeze £100bn out of that mess.

    Booting out New Labour: Priceless!

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    • Annon says:

      You’ve shot yourself right in the foot there Nationalist, you state “Repatriating 3 million immigrants and letting Brits have their jobs: Save £100bn”

      According to the BNP Policy the repatriation programme is “Voluntary” so you are making a rather large assumption that all immigrants will leave or you are saying they will be “forced” to leave care to clarify your position?

      The pure fact is the BNP haven’t thought out its economic policy at all, the simple way to know this is just by reading it the ideas are all written to sound good but no practicality has been added to the mix.

      The losses in income tax alone will be too much for the Government Spending Programmes to bare, what the BNP will effectively do is hammer the very working class people they pretend to represent with the new Tariff system which will hit low income families HARD.

      On the figures the BNP currently quote I worked out a few things based on our family income (I won’t give the exact figure but to say we would be classed as a higher earning family), and the BNP policies would add something in the region of £12-14,000 pa to our tax bills etc.

      Where do the BNP get their information from? do they employ an economist to work these figures out? I would doubt it as every economist in the country would take one look at the BNP policy and run away laughing at it.

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  2. Davey says:

    How the BNP would bankrupt Britain…

    It inherits the mess left by years and years of labour and tory treachery, mismanagement and greed!

    Tax cuts, spending cuts, abolition of license and tuition fees…

    It’s all classic tory party policy, why is NB knocking it?!

    Seriously, if any old school tory inadvertently strays onto this ridiculous little site, they’re gonna wonder why tories are condemning their own policies!

    Yet more mindless contradictory drivel spewed out from bethell & co.

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  3. WTF says:

    Hehehe

    No sorry the LieBore have been there & done that already!
    Bot a bunch of bankers they are!

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  4. Hamish MacLintock says:

    Im sure i read on here in previous posts from certain contributors,that the bnp had NO plans to repatriate immigrants.

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    • Nationalist says:

      The BNP would reverse the recent mass immigration. Many foreigners would lose the right to live and work in the UK. However (and this may be what you are thinking of) the BNP has no “Blacks Out” type policy. Ethnic minorities who are lawful and law-abiding British citizens will have the option of VOLUNTARY grant-assisted repatriation to their ethnic homeland but there would be no compulsion; they and their descendants can remain in the UK forever if they like.

      The “lawful and law-abiding” part is important. If they acquired British nationality via a bogus marriage or other such device, or if they break the law in a big way after naturalising, then they can’t expect to remain.

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    • reguired says:

      Yes that was Samish Macbeth, a madman with multiple IDs and an imaginary friend called Jay boy who he talks to while posting.

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    • WTF says:

      Well I am sure that somebody could be found within the BNP (or the Conservative Party) who might have the view “If it is black, send it back” or “it is never too late to go back to 1948″.

      But I (& I think many others) take a softer line on this question.
      I think what you mean by “immigrant” has to be defined.
      You have to look at the BNP site to determine what their present policy is & if you are for or against it.

      This following is my opinion not BNP policy.
      I back the BNP view of there not really being genuine asylum seekers unless they are white French or Irish.
      Which I believe comes from a UN definition of seeking asylum in the first safe country you come to, not cherry picking where the best benefits are.
      I believe in a quid pro quo type arrangement with countries.

      But I am fairly hard line about any more Moslem immigration into this country unless some agreement can be reached on the effects, which I think is impossible, so I back a ban on it.

      I would support a review into who has been given citizenship recently & whether they are assets to this country or not.
      Terrorist supporting parasites can find another country to leech off.
      Also ban sharia finance & laws, halal butchery etc.
      Polygamy is out too.
      If you want all this there are plenty of countries to choose from to live in.

      The takeover of many slaughter houses etc is leading to us having halal products forced on us whether we know it or not.

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  5. Nice Try says:

    Nope. Thought you wouldn’t have the guts to publish my comment from 8:39 this morning.

    So much for Nothing British’s respect for Freedom of Speech. Ha!

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    • jonathan.dupont says:

      I deleted it Nice Try, for the very simple reason that for the life of me I couldn’t see what it had to do with the BNP’s tax and spend policy.

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  6. Enough Censorship says:

    Yes, you can find a screenshot of the censored comment by clicking on my screenname “Nice Try” above.

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    • reguired says:

      Nice one, that’ll make them squirm.

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    • WTF says:

      Ooh that stings but I was thinking something similar when I watched the news.
      It reminds me of the film “Munich”, I wonder how much of this goes on that we don’t hear about?
      That said I don’t have a lot of sympathy for Hamas people on arms buying missions for terrorist purposes.
      There is wrong on both sides here, I can’t support either.

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    • MLJ says:

      Wow!

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  7. Lauren says:

    The marxists have already bankrupted us and if the Tories get elected in May its going to get much much worse…

    I detest the BNP but at least they are offering more than the 3 main parties. Dave and his Cameron cuties are incapable of fixing anything, they are a shambles!! UKIP are the only party who can offer a sensible alternative at the present time. If the Tories win the GE I am moving out of this decaying country before its too late.

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    • WTF says:

      But Lauren where to?
      My research shows that all western countries are going roughly the same way with the same policies.
      Even your beloved UKIP has swung to a more BNP type stance with the immigration & Islamisation concerns.

      My betting is for maybe 2 BNP MP’s but I’ll concede that UKIP might do better.
      That would offer a block in parliament that would challenge the status quo or I hope so.

      Have you seen the lady from Australia, who I believe was a right wing MP, who is coming this way because she is sick of Asian (polite way of saying Moslem?) immigration into Oz.
      When she gets to Heathrow, God will she get a shock!
      Probably get straight back on a return flight.

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  8. WTF says:

    As Lauren says
    “The marxists have already bankrupted us and if the Tories get elected in May its going to get much much worse…”

    Yes if the Tories are to do anything about the debt then it has to come soon after the election because then they can blame Gordon for the mess & pain.
    If they wait then they get the blame for it!

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  9. WTF says:

    Nice Try

    We are getting the sound of (Ed) balls here…..

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  10. marty says:

    As a former tory party member i cant wait to see G Browns face when it dawns on him how many Brits voted BNP,like most of my friends i will be voting BNP and urging everyone i know to do the same.

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    • WTF says:

      To be honest Marty, I think the looks on Maurice, James & Jonathan’s faces might be a Kodak moment too!

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    • acorn says:

      Join the club! :) BNP have more policies in common with the Conservative Party that I joined than the Tories of the last two decades.

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  11. Robert Baehr says:

    It should not cost the taxpayer one penny to fund a programme of generous repatriation grants for legal immigrants who return to their native countries.

    The funding could come exclusively through imposing a massive financial penalty on anyone who has promoted immigration in the past, and anyone who has made a lot of money out of it.

    Politicians, media hacks, employers, jurists, celebrities and opinion-formers all can be fined or have their pension pots sequestered and their property nationalised.

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  12. jean says:

    Is it true the BNP will abolish car tax and lower petrol prices?

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    • WTF says:

      I thnk Jean that it is far too early for promises like that.
      I suppose NB will say there might be a higher import tax on foreign made cars.
      I think the trend is for petrol prices to go up worldwide.

      There was talk of Australia & South Africa using a process that the Nazi’s started in WW2 of making petrol products out of coal.
      Maybe something like that would become cost effective one day with our coal?

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    • jonathan.dupont says:

      They plan to abolish car taxes, and have promised not to raise the tax on petrol – but on the other hand, they’re also extremely concerned about peak oil, which would imply that they would want to ration more / raise the prices on using your car.

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  13. Sam Pauli says:

    no

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  14. WTF says:

    Well Lauren, Virginia sounds good & the land acts as a insulating barrier against the worse of the outside world as long as you are self sufficient.
    But can you keep out an increasingly meddlesome government?

    But politically I worry how America is going, maybe some of the states will end up going their own way.
    What with the “tea parties” there seems to be a growing move to get back to basics, back to the constitution.

    Will the vested interests allow that to happen though?

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  15. Hepworth says:

    Jimmy.
    When will you be responding to the Green Arrow’s kind invitation to an open debate?

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  16. Jonathan Deacon says:

    Well the way I see it those whom have run the country up to now are obviously responsible for createing this enormous debt in the first place, so why should we vote for any of them? At least the BNP are singing a new song and trying something different that focuses on Britian and the British People. But honestly who would really want to take over the mess that decades of Labour and Torie meddling has created … I hope the BNP are brave enough to even want to tackle the enourmous dept ridden economy because no one else seems to want the job!!!! PS if Britain was a business for sale how the hell would you advertise it and get any intrested buyers with so much debt hanging over it?

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  17. paul james says:

    I back “Nationalist”,the Tories and Labour dont want to admit to massive fiscal problems created by themselves by filling the country with expensive “none Jobs” as previously mentioned.Their solution is to borrow more money and and carry on printing as much micky mouse money as the markets will stand.Incidentaly ,Obama is doing the same thing and the Yanks are not happy either.Switzerland has similar problems to us with immigration but has had the courage to start to address this cancerous marxist problem.The BNP have a clean sheet with lots of real clever members from all walks of life,not proffesional politicions that have ruined our once fine country.We must recover our utilities from foreign ownership as they our bleeding us white and the new management will not be a left wing run union fiasco calling the shots.WE dont need any more “place men or women” in the upper house either!

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  18. John says:

    It would be far from impossible to keep these promises. Firstly, you get rid of all the weirdos and thieves and other assorted deviants in Westminster, that suck the UK taxpayer dry, then they stop giving billions of ponds of OUR money to whatever pet charity their bleeding hearts desire.

    Top that off by putting useless public sector workers into proper jobs, where its made clear to them they have actually earn their money by working and I’d say there would be a fair few quid left to put to good use.

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  19. WTF says:

    How about he posts it in the column about free speech & the BNP which was still open when I last looked?

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  20. Nice Try says:

    The relevance, as made abundantly clear, is the hypocrisy of your organization’s purported concern for Britain’s economic interests. I might also add that your readership does not seem to share your conviction, does it?

    Nevertheless, were you to actually believe what you have just said, I would respectfully ask you to be kind enough to reach over and grab the option to the immediate left of the preceding one. Giving it a good yank, might even result in the sound of bells.

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  21. jonathan.dupont says:

    Its still extremely off topic, but okay…

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  22. WTF says:

    So you suppose the economists you favour have done a good job so far?
    The decent ones were ignored & here we are, still some of them talk about “Prudence” Brown.
    They should be struck off the accountancy register ASAP.

    Well it could be argued that there has been a voluntary white flight, even Lauren below is talking about joining that.

    So let’s say that the BNP or something similar came into power, then maybe the more rich & mobile might say “I’m off” of their own accord.

    Maybe if the Muslims felt that they weren’t being pandered to as much as they like, as in a Swiss style minaret ban or a French style burkha/veil ban, then they might voluntarily pack their bags & go.

    Culling QUANGOs & Guardian job ads for community/diversity/outreach/translators/stasi style state snoopers & the rest of the nepotism & CP gestapo would save a bit.

    On the other hand whites abroad might say I am going back to Blighty?

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  23. Nationalist says:

    We’re talking 3 million FOREIGN workers currently in the UK here. We have 6 million of our own citizens out of work and on benefits. A couple of million are disabled; the rest need jobs, and even some of the disabled could be gainfully employed.

    The voluntary scheme refers to British citizens who are post-1947 immigrants (including those born here.)

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  24. Annon says:

    See again your wrong We have 6 million of our own citizens out of work and on benefits.

    There are NOT 6 million people of working capability on benefits, there are 1.64 million people claiming JSA around 3 million on Disability Allowances, and a job job of Income Support single mothers etc, so not all actually looking for work.

    If you want to quote figures at least quote the correct figures.

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  25. Lauren says:

    WTF
    I (along with my family) would join my brother in law in Virginia, he has a ranch there and lots of spare land.

    and yes, I agree, a hung parliament with UKIP / BNP is an improvement and more democratic than what we saddled with right now. But we still won`t be in a position to leave the EU will we? So as I see it, the problems are set to continue whatever happens.

    The Aussie woman will indeed get a shock when she sees how far we`ve fallen.

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  26. Sam Pauli says:

    No Surrender reguired(truth denier)

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  27. acorn says:

    Brilliant! :)

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  28. WTF says:

    Then asset strip the carcass……Oh hang on a mo’ hasn’t that been done already?

    We’ll be building from the ground up I guess?

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