The BNP would replace income tax with increased consumption taxes. (source, see Monday’s post). The BNP would bring in tariffs to protect British workers. (source, see last week’s post). The BNP would break up supermarkets (source, see yesterday’s post). The BNP would create a new bulk transport tax on the movement of food. (source: BNP manifesto 2005). The BNP would increase taxes on junk food. (source: BNP manifesto 2005)
One of the more pernicious effects of the BNP’s programme is the way the different policies interact with each other. A great example is food, where the BNP have no less than five policies that would massively increase its cost, costing the average household £2,400 a year. Not only is food a necessity, but it also takes up a far greater proportion of the weekly paycheque of the poor. Yet again, the BNP’s polices would hurt most those they claim to represent, Britain’s ordinary working families.
The 5 policies :
- Increase VAT. To pay for it’s tax cut for the rich and abolish income tax, the BNP has pledged to raise consumption taxes such as VAT. At the moment food is zero rated – let’s assume that the BNP would raise it to the current reduced rate, or 5%.
- A new tax on junk food. Showing their nanny statist side, the BNP have proposed a new tax on junk food to promote junk food. Although they don’t bother to give any specifics, the easiest way to do this would be just to impose the full 17.5% VAT on all food that the BNP deemed not good for you.
- Tariffs to protect British farmers. The BNP would try and protect British farmers, both through increased tariffs and by setting strict limits on the amount of foreign food that could come in
- Break up Britain’s supermarkets. Supermarkets have been an enormous force for lowering prices for British consumers. As we discussed yesterday, prices drop by an average of 7% every single year
- A bulk transport tax. The BNP are believers in the local food movement, and would introduce a special bulk transport tax making it difficult to transport goods long distance, ensuring shops source their food locally.
Let’s add the effects of those 5 up. According to the Office for National Statistics, the average household spends £48 a week on food at present. According to Nothing British calculations, the sum effect of these 5 BNP policies would near double that to £93, costing you an extra £2400 a year.[1]
There’s nothing wrong with local food, the organic food or farmers markets, but it should remain a choice, not an obligation. While Nick Griffin on his inflated EU salary might be able to afford an extra couple of grand a year, the working class who vote for him aren’t quite so lucky.
[1] We’ve assumed 25% of food counts as unhealthy, a 20% cost from bulk transport tax and a 40% tariff. If the BNP wants to give us their own numbers, we’d be happy to update our figures.
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A new tax on junk food – GOOD, to hell with american crap like McDonalds, KFC etc.
Tariffs to protect British farmers – GOOD, this just illustrates how the tories have turned their back on British farming.
Break up Britain’s supermarkets – GOOD, Tesco’s and co. pay a pittance to the producers and rip the public off, their profits should be curtailed.
A bulk transport tax – GOOD, whats the point in transporting produce long distances when it’s just round the corner, this illustrates how bogus the conservatives ‘green’ credentials are.
NB then has the audacity to speak of having a ‘choice’, it’s a pity we are not given ‘choices’ in other matters such as immigration, the EU, afghan war etc…
Yeah, we’re free to buy as much foreign crap as we want, it’s just a pity thanks to the tories we don’t have much of a choice to buy British anymore as Thatcher sold off/destroyed all our manufacturing, industry etc.
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As long as you’re happy to pay for it, Davey.
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David Cameron will today step up pressure on the fast food industry by urging families to buy local produce and spend more time preparing home-cooked meals.
The Tory leader will throw his weight behind the Slow Food movement, which was created to fight back against the world-wide dominance of fast food chains such as McDonalds.
Mr Cameron will urge people to grow their own vegetables and cut down on ‘food miles’ – the distance that produce travels before landing on dinner tables – to help the environment.
Sources close to the Tory leader revealed Mr Cameron grows his own vegetables – such as courgettes, onions and garlic – in a bid to reduce his own ‘food miles’.
In a speech today at London’s trendy Borough Market, Mr Cameron will urge Britons to ditch junk food such as processed burgers, microwave meals and fizzy drinks in favour of fresh produce such as free range eggs and organic cheeses.
The Slow Food movement was founded in 1986 by Italian food and wine journalist Carlo Petrini, who was horrified that fast food firms were eroding his country’s ancient culinary culture.
Are you all singing from the same sheet?
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Davey the BNP and their simple policies dont take into account the true difficulty of the problem.
A tax on junk food perhaps thats fine for you, but a lot of people on low incomes rely on McDonalds to provide warm food to their children.
Where else do you think you can buy a cooked “meal” for 1 person for circa 3 pounds?
A tariff to protect British farmers. Already schemes like this are in place to protect E.U. farmers from competiton from outside the Euro zone. Take for example the C.A.P. and its effect on sugar prices. You can buy a kilo of Brazilian sugar for around ten pence but they would rather you bought expensive Euro sugar produced from beet for around a pound a kilo.
Break up the supermarkets. A nice thought, but again when the cost of goods rises it leaves millions of people unable to afford the basic foodstuffs.
Yet more populist bullshit unworkable policy from the BNP
Just like the “voluntary” repatriations they suggested
IT SIMPLY WONT WORK…
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It must be 24 hour day for the researchers at NB, what with manipulating quotes, falsifying statistics and down right lying about the BNP, they must be costing the Tory lying and cheating squad an absolute fortune in wages, but I suppose it’s understandable with the rise in popularity of the BNP who continue to remain silent.
Please carry on NB; you’re doing great work in recruiting followers and potential members, once the fascist states and Trevor Phillips gagging order is removed that is.
You truly are ‘NOTHING BRITISH’
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What bullshit!! Are NB seriously trying to say that the average household will have to pay an extra 500 pounds per week for food. What ever you are smoking, where can i get some?
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Probably the finest Cuban cigars money can buy!
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sorry, 50 pounds per week….still a complete invention.
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It would not be the BNP that make food expensive it is the lack of freedom that makes food expensive!
Food can be grown in the ground for free, it only needs soil and some water. we have lots of water and there is plenty of soil, but if you use that soil to build motorways and airports then you lose the soil for growing. That soil it taken by the governments to build on,who gave it to them??
Once the last tree is cut and the last river poisoned, you will find you cannot eat your money!
you say “One of the more pernicious effects of the BNP’s programme is the way the different policies interact with each other.”
Yes and you have to look at the bigger picture it’s not about single policies but a different way of living. It’s not about increasing the population to pay for the old, that reduces soil space. It’s not about getting richer, see above cannot eat money.
It is not about living outside of ones self in a future or past time when material wealth is better but living in the present and being content.
On a trip a few years ago I went to Casablance and there i saw a large mosque on the beach and beside it was a very large slum “casbah” i saw that the mosque was built in expensive materials and no expense was spared, yet the people were living in a slum. the religion was literally sucking from the people their wealth for itself. In the middle of last year Tesco built a hyper market in the middle of my town (a small market town in the north of england) and I realised that everything about it, position access, lighting, floor layout etc was designed to make you spend your money in that single place. then i remembered about my trip to Casablanca and it occured to me that consumerism is the new religion.
Can you please explain to me how cheap plastic things made in China enrich my life?
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Yes supermarket building has a real art, science & psychology to it.
The whole business of turning left after walking in the main doors, I don’t know why that works, the placement at eye level being the most sought after shelf position, the sweets at the check out & so on.
At least they banned the subliminals or did they?
The cheap plastic things from China are spawning a new middle class who will compete with you for the same resources.
Same in India, over 2 billion for the 2 countries I believe.
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I was going to post a long comment tearing your article to bits but there really isn’t much point, the article above is a twisted analysis of the BNP’s excellent policies on food production and stopping the monopolies held by the supermarkets. As a nation we have little opportunity to buy healthy uncontaminated food anymore thanks to the policies of successive Labour and Tory governments, this is something that will be immediately addressed when the BNP come to power. Cheap healthy food is a right that all British people should be able to enjoy rather than just the rich and is a core principle of what the BNP wishes to achieve. This of course, like all the other policies contained in their manifesto is just common sense and hardly rocket science.
Face it guy’s, this website isn’t here to tell the truth or to educate people but rather to spew negative propaganda about the BNP in the hope of turning people off the party, it won’t work of course, you know it and i know it.
Could i just say thank you for your articles on the treason committed by our Queen and for having a go at the true British patriot “Green Arrow” as the hit’s on the Green Arrow website have gone through the roof now as more and more people visit his excellent site to discover the TRUTH about the BNP and to find out more about it’s fine policies for restoring our country to it’s former glory. I notice this website lags way down the list in the Alexa rankings, coming in at 800 000+ on the list, never mind though guy’s, i’m sure you won’t last long on here and will probably give up the fight just like that red troll over at Harry’s place (Edmund Standing) has just done after realizing his efforts to demonize the BNP just weren’t working on the public.
You have a good day now……CC
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Sam, you have not been banned. Our spam filter captures certain words and phrases. If we feel certain remarks are unrelated to the discussion then we will delete them. Your remarks can sometimes lead off topic, but we do appreciate your support.
Re: distinguishing us from the BNP. As I am sure you will know, if you read our posts you will see that there is nothing remotely similar between us and the BNP.
Best wishes,
Maurice.
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How about you and Liebour?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23801570-david-camerons-pact-with-gordon-brown-over-bnp.do
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What are these banned words?
I bet one begins with ‘C’ and ends in ‘G’ and is an anagram of ‘log coin’
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Policy focus #….
This series is a bit like one of those long running horror films & its sequels, you keep repeating the same scare tactics & hope it sells.
It is irrelevant as the BNP are not forming the next government, your lot are.
The main thing is that while the world population is heading towards the 9 billion mark & at the same time water & land for food remain the same, then that in itself will force prices of everything up, there isn’t enough to go around.
Global swarming not global warming is the problem!
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WTF, if you’re not interesting in implementing BNP policies why do you support the BNP?
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“at the same time water & land for food remain the same”
Actualy it’s not it is decreasing. We are losing land to the sea through coastal erosion and also more land is giving itself up to become a desert.
And as I mentioned above the more land we build on the more we lose to grow food.
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To be fair we need another world war, pandemic or more natural disasters to thin the population out a bit…
For the record I have to point out thats not BNP policy before NB starts furiously typing up their next article:
BNP support WW3, disease and disater!
“A BNP supporter last night called for armageddon in order to halt what he calls overpopulation blah, blah, blah, ad infinitum ZZZZzzzz……..”
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As I said the BNP won’t form the next government, your lot will but you are terrified that the hung Parliament prediction will come about (or maybe a small majority) along with the BNP having 2 or more MP’s which terrifies your lot.
Because you might have to do deals with them!
That might come at a heavy price if there are any truths in the rumour about the Conservatives doing electoral deals in Barking to try & keep Margeret Hodges seat safe & Nick Griffin out of Parliament?
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Well WTF lets be frank about this if the BNP did manage to get 2 MPs elected they wouldn’t hold ANY power what so ever and that’s frankly the reality of the situation they we be the same as any back bench MP very rarely speaking in Parliment and when it comes to votes they won’t have any power to change policy.
The only victory the BNP would be able to claim is one of getting them elected in the first place, but (and in reality you know this) they’ll be nothing anyway, they won’t be able to change policy or law.
And I have no doubt they during the term of parliment will make themselves look so ridiculous (just like most BNP councillors do) that they will actually have the effect of ensuring no BNP MPs are ever elected again.
Even in the even of a hung parliment one or two elected BNP MPs won’t have any say in the Government so who cares.
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I’ve looked at this policy previously and whilst I do agree with NB that the cost of food will rise if the BNP policy is every enacted (we know it won;t be as they will never be in Gov), but I worked out the increase at around 23% on a weekly shop.
I based the calculation in a similar method to the NB calculations but actually did a standard weekly shop (for 1 month) and added the extra tax increase to the bill, and it came in on average at a 23% increase.
So no matter how the BNP supporters here try to spin this the fact of the matter is there will be an increase in people’s average weekly shop and that’s just if you take in to account the “Transport Tax” without the extra taxes that the BNP would need to introduce to replace income tax.
My weekly shop is for 4 people 2 adults and two teenagers, so I would like to see the BNP supporters have a go at me who is a British voter and has worked out the extra cost involved to me.
NB may have generalised their calculations but I calculated them based on a real family and a real life set of weekly shops.
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Did you factor in your reduction in income tax? or was that part irrelevant?
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i realise that it is not worth debating these issues as you only see what you want to see.
It is said:
“Let’s add the effects of those 5 up. According to the Office for National Statistics, the average household spends £48 a week on food at present. According to Nothing British calculations, the sum effect of these 5 BNP policies would near double that to £93, costing you an extra £2400 a year”
Increase VAT.
A new tax on junk food.
Tariffs to protect British farmers.
Break up Britain’s supermarkets.
A bulk transport tax.
these 5 entities wouldn’t be relevant at the same time, consumers would change their habits. If you could get a decent healthy meal for less than a McDonalds then that is what you would do and avoid the junk food tax. you would also buy local produce that didn’t include the bulk transport tax. that is the idea to make you change your habit to a healthier and local option. this also has the added benefit of reducing the burden on the NHS.
From the National statistics site the average household income is just under £30000 per year. The tax on that is about £5000 per year taking a very, dare i say it conservative figure. that is £96 per week saving not paying any income tax and then even with your figures above of an extra £46 per week would still leave the average household better off by £50 per week, £2600 per year.
Of course like all parties those from poorer families would receive further assistance.
i’m sure if Dave had brought this to the table then it would be the best thing since sliced bread.
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Jonathan,
I have also explained how easy it would be for the Conservatives to get a landslide victory & see off the BNP all in one go.
It would save you time & effort best applied elsewhere but it is not going to happen.
Why don’t your party explain why you can’t & won’t give the voters what they want?
Is it that you think the voters are stupid & need to be told what is good for them?
What they want is bad for this country?
Or are the conspiracy theorists right that you all work to a secret agenda that no sane voter would want if they knew about it?
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WTF, I’m not a member of the Conservative Party.
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The BNP are helping shape debate, they are not going to form government or policy, but their strengthened position will ensure that the PC brigade do not run the cultural/immigration debate.
Vote BNP and keep the other bastards honest!
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How are the BNP helping to shape debate?
With their constant stream of miss information and lies to their own supporters etc?
The only subjects the BNP really get involved in public is Immigration and Immigration and errr Immigration if you look at the general debate of the BNP it always comes down to immigration.
The BNP don’t get involved in the debate on the economy because they know they have nothing to offer on that score other than a policy of protectionism and destruction of the British economy worse than any Labour of Tory Government could of.
Let me remind you of a few ways the BNP have lied to people like you:
1. BNP: “We need you money, the EU Elections cost us £600,000 please give as much as you can” – reality NOT really we lied we only spent less than £250,000 (but cheers for your wonga it paid the hefty staff wage bill)
2. BNP: “We need your money to buy our very own Truth Truck, we need £28,000 give as much as you can” – reality – oh never mind we lied again we just lease the can, ah well you numpties don’t mind do you.
And there are so many more I could use for you, but people like you call people that don’t vote BNP sheep, I think you need to look in the mirror and see who are the people being led to the bank to hand over money to a party that lies it’s way through blagging you in to donating to them.
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So Jonathan, why won’t the Conservatives give the voters what they want?
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WTF, again, I’m not a member of the Conservative party. You’d do best to ask them, but I imagine it’s because different voters want different things.
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bnp the party of the working classes……….sure josie sure?never in a hundred years will they support equality .
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Well Sam, it seems equality has gone out of fashion, since it doesn’t look like any of the mainstream parties truly believe in it either.
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WTF, well said.
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dupont,why have i been banned from nb when disgusting racism and bigotry seems totally acceptable now!its geting very difficult to see much difference between yourselves and the bnp
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Thats my whole point Jonathan, I DO NOT have the ‘choice’ you tories keep banging on about… I can not buy British even if it were overpriced!
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http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23376569-cameron-endorses-slow-food-movement.do
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Cameron isn’t making it compulsory, reguired.
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That is pure crap and you know it. My wife is Mental Health worker and works throughout several schools in our town. she has first hand experience and goes into the homes and lives of these people you are talking about. They don’t feed their kids McDonalds to give them a warm meal they feed it them because they can’t get themselves of their lazy arses to make them anything. You can put togethor some veg for a lot less than £3 and suprise suprise it’s healthy and that has the added bonus of not putting future pressure on the NHS resources.
you say:
“Take for example the C.A.P. and its effect on sugar prices. You can buy a kilo of Brazilian sugar for around ten pence but they would rather you bought expensive Euro sugar produced from beet for around a pound a kilo.”
what benefit does sugar have for the body?
second do you know the reason they are able to grow that sugar in Brazil, yes exactly they destroy the rain forest to grow it fantastic! is that Tory policy, destroy the rainforest, burn the animals from their habitat, diplace others in another land and destroy one of the great things of this planet that can affect nature and eco systems just so you can buy cheap sugar that has no nutritional benefit whatsoever. Well thought through and you are finally showing your true credentials.
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that of course should read:
“themselves off of their lazy”
not:
“themselves of their lazy”
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“Where else do you think you can buy a cooked “meal” for 1 person for circa 3 pounds?”
The fish & chip shop perhaps?
I know it may not be the healthiest option, but at least its not processed american crap lining the pockets of some yank is it?!
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I do support some if not all BNP policies but if you have read enough of my stuff you would know why I will support the BNP.
I explained it yesterday in my “lesser of 2 evils” comment which ended up in the bin.
With any policy from any party it might sound good or bad but until you see it in action, only then can you say that works or it doesn’t.
Look how M. Thatcher’s Francis of Assisi’s speech panned out or Tony Blair & his “Things can only get better” when it was actually the childish & spiteful “Demon eyes” poster that was spot on accurate.
You want me to vote for the mainstream?
Fool me once, shame on you.
Fool me twice, shame on me.
Fool me thrice, vote for the BNP & put the fear into the mainstream politicians.
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Yes you’re correct in saying that, I was being overly generous to NB!
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Yes of course my calculation includes that aspect, I am currently monitoring all our families expenses for the next 2 months and working out what the extra (or lower) costs would be based on BNP policy.
So far 1 month in including not having the income tax to pay we as a family are still worse off in the region of £200 a month under BNP policy.
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Well I was using the “you” in a fairly general sense.
I would find it difficult to believe you are a paid up member of the Labour party or some such thing if you’re working on this site or are you a gun for hire brought into do a job, surely you believe in what you’re doing?
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I notice you don’t respond to the point I was making but obviously you’re not privy to internal Conservative party workings?
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As a family we don’t eat Junk food like McDonalds etc, we cook all meals, but the bill will still rise, why should I have to change the healthy eating habbits of my family to buying lower quality food in order to keep my shopping budget to its current level under a BNP government.
If the BNP get a chance to enact this policy many families would have to but cheaper products of a lower production standard just to stay within an acceptable budget for food.
How are these BNP polices going to improve the health of British people ? the answer is they are not, you’ll find families on lower incomes having to go without in order to feed their children because they simply can’t stretch their food budgets enough to compensate for the price increases that the BNP polices will involve.
Then you put more presure on the NHS treating people who are not able to eat properly because they are protecting the health of their children first.
Can you really justify this?
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Andy H, you’re not taking into account the extra VAT and tariffs we’d have to pay.
If you want to extra assistance to the poor, how are you going to pay for it?
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Well the conspiracy theorists point to swine flu or the vaccines being engineered for that purpose by NWO types.
But it looks like the mainstream politicians seem bent on starting WW3 with the hostile talk on Iran & Yemen.
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Why can’t you?
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It is obvious a lot of people “care” or seem very worried by the prospect.
Especially you & this website!
Whether the one or two MP’s have any influence over anything, we will have to see.
I am hoping for other advantages to come out of the situation.
Obviously you’re happy for the mainstream politicians to plough on with the present agenda but I do care about a spanner being thrown into those works.
I want these people to be shaken out of their smug complacency.
Plenty of people find what is going on worrying & undemocratic.
It is high time for normal people to get heard & if it takes the BNP to do it, then fine by me.
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Of course, I believe in what I’m doing. I believe the BNP would be a disaster for this country, and make the lives of the worse off in our society harder.
Which point did you want me to respond to?
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Excellent thank you, OK Jonathan so you are not in the Conservative party but you are in the company of high level, well connected people who are & this website is perceived by most readers to be pro the Conservatives winning the next election, unless one of my other wacky theories is correct.
But anyhow the point I want the Conservatives to answer was why don’t they give the voters what they want, this would make the BNP probably unlikely to win any MP’s & give the Conservatives a landslide victory.
Firstly a referendum on our membership of the EU, do we stay or do we leave & trade with Europe instead?
To me this issue has to be addressed first as nothing else can be done until that occurs.
If we then become a sovereign nation again, then we can have a debate about immigration & actually control it.
An end to illegal wars as well, getting us into more is not going to be popular.
I think the death penalty for the worst of murderers would be popular as well.
Or at least if someone is given a life sentence then it should mean life, not that we might let you out in 5 years.
I want a lot of the secrecy repealed, why are the documents on Jack the Ripper still secret for one?
I think there is a covenant to cover up the misdeeds of the living who were or are in power.
A lot of the present government’s new laws are unpopular, I would like to see some repealed.
If you want equality fine but it has to mean one law for all, no shariah, no exceptions, or constant pandering to minority groups.
If you don’t like that go elsewhere, after all no one seems fussed that loads of white people & their money went elsewhere because they hate the way this country is going, do they?
A lot of the QUANGOs can go & a lot of these minority interest groups should not get taxpayers money, Trevor Phillips & his empire can go for a start.
Root out “Common Purpose” from all public institutions & explain why it was allowed to get hold in such a big way.
Another thing in desperate short supply is commonsense being applied to everyday situations, such as constant health & safety concerns used as an excuse to say no or actually resulting in deaths.
Then the constant disaster after disaster in social services or policing, the constant cries of “lessons will be learnt” but never are.
It seems rare for the incompetent to be sacked or punished even after deaths occur.
Good examples are a load of people die in a Kent hospital of infections but the Chief executive walks away with a payoff not prosecution for manslaughter.
The banking crisis is the most recent example, we are up to our neck in debt, Fred the Shred walks away a rich man, the bankers get bonuses & nobody is punished?
There’s more but I’ll finish for now.
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Well for a start do you think immigration woud be discussed if the BNP didn’t mention it?
But maybe that is a non issue for you, you are happy with the mainstream status quo, so you can vote for it.
Lies & fraud eh?
Well for the moment I will take your criticisms at face value & say anything the BNP can do wrong, the mainstream lot can do bigger & far better at, you know, MP’s expenses & all that.
I think mainstream voters are constantly lied to & mislead al the time, policies are enacted without the consent of the voters, such as the Iraq war & mass immigration for two examples.
I feel that the Conservatives learnt very little from the 1997 election defeat, otherwise why did they get so embroiled in the expenses scandal?
Also the other thing is you always tell us why we are wrong but who do you think is right?
If you reveal your political preferences are you afraid they would be shot full of holes very quickly.
I mean you wouldn’t justify New Labour would you?
I’ll admit to my eternal shame I voted (indirectly) for nice Mr Blair in 1997 by voting for Harry Cohen, what a crook he turned out to be!
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Yes I know but you could lean across & ask your colleagues who are!
But an awful lot of voters would like a referendum on the EU, it would be a sure fire vote winner for the Conservatives.
The BNP are offering a view on this & it could well be attractive to voters.
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