Issac Newton
The BNP claim to be a patriotic party, but seem ashamed or ignorant of one of Britain’s proudest contributions to the world – our ideas.
It’s not just the British language that you can hear in every country in the world, its the influence of our leading thinkers. Britain is the proud home of Newton and Darwin, of Shakespeare and Byron, of Isambard Kingdom Brunel and Tim Berners Lee.
Perhaps what we should be most proud of our political and economic ideas. Britain was the home of the industrial revolution, the greatest increase in wealth humanity has ever seen, finally freeing the world’s population from a life of drudgery on the farm. Just as importantly, we spread the idea of parliamentary democracy, of liberalism and government for the people.
The BNP’s influence on the other hand are European. Continental thinkers like Rousseau and Nietzsche. Continental philosophies of romanticism and existentialism. Continental political ideologies of fascism and nationalism. Continental economics of protectionism and corporatism.
Some of these ideas have some merit to them. Some of them were a disaster that lead to mass war and genocide. None of them are British.
British Ideas
- Liberalism. British people believe in fair play and tolerance. That as long as you follow the rules, do you part and don’t hurt anyone, you can be part of our community. We believe that politics is important, but that it shouldn’t be an all encompassing religion. Ever since Locke and the Glorious Revolution, we’ve believe in checks and balances on power and gradual transformation, rather than violent revolution
- Free markets. Britain is the home of Adam Smith, David Ricardo and David Hume. Our believe in open markets and free trade helped us become the richest country the world had ever seen. We believed in keeping bread cheap for the poor, rather than protecting greedy capitalists with captive markets.
- Working with the world. Britain is the greatest country in the world – but that doesn’t mean we can just ignore everyone else. We don’t just believe in free markets, in our Empire we created the biggest free trade zone the world’s ever seen. We don’t just believe in freedom, we used our navy to put an end to the slave trade. Not least, we don’t believe in fascism – which is why stood alone against the Nazis in World War II.
BNP Ideas
- Authoritarian nationalism. The BNP believes that the people is the nation is the state. If you’re parent and your parent’s parents weren’t born here, you can’t be one of us. Blood is everything. The tribe is greater than any individual. A strong central government is needed to lead us to greatness. Politics is all encompassing.
- Corporatism. The BNP openly admit that they steal their economic ideas from Asian countries such as Japan, but in truth their ideas have been popular on the continent for much longer. The BNP believe in cosy dinners where government bureaucrats, rich industrialists and union leaders stitch up the future of the economy, rather than let individual workers and consumers decide. They believe in protection and regulation, tariffs and quotas and waiting lists. An economy closed to the outside world and searching after the past, rather than a dynamic, creative leader of the future
- Fascism. The BNP like to pretend that they’re not a fascist party, but their ideas remain the same. Its not just the big ones, like hating people of different colours and races. It’s the economics, the politics and the superstitions. Both the BNP and the Nazis are corporatist, protectionist, have both nationalist and socialist influences, believe in a strong state, read Nietzsche and Heidegger, hate finance, are fascinated with environmentalism have both nationalist and socialist influences, and Paganism, distrust modern art, want to censor the media, break up large retailers, institute national service, dislike America and the Jews, and have leaders that admire Mein Kampf.
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Those who think voting for the BNP will lead to an independent, right-wing Britain free from “political correctness” delude themselves.
The BNP leaders are National Socialists whose real loyalty is to the “white nation” and to other National Socialists in Europe and beyond.
They regard our national institutions as traitors – the Queen, the Army generals, the BBC, our courts, our newspapers and our traditional social democratic parties to name but a few.
They hide behind our British flag but they can’t hide the swastikas in their eyes.
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To say the BNP is not proud of Darwin Shakespear IK Brunel or Byron is ridiculous, NB is getting desperate as the election gets nearer,Multi culturism has failed and no amount of silly websites like yours will stop the rise of the BNP.
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Someone needs to take up the gauntlet of rebuffing the BNP claims to represent British Christianity, as there is currently a worrying gaping hole, since Edmund Standing stopped “swimming in the sewers”.
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Hi Stuart – we’ll be addressing that very thing tomorrow.
Cheers
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There’s Nothing British about brown nosing.
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i suppose it makes a change for him when he normally protests against another section of the christian community,normally every saturday in the summer.
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“freeing the world’s population from a life of drudgery on the farm”
How do you dream this crap up?!?! Maybe if africans went back to the ‘drudgery on the farm’ they might be able to feed themselves instead of begging for handouts all the time!
“The BNP believe in cosy dinners where government bureaucrats, rich industrialists and union leaders stitch up the future of the economy, rather than let individual workers and consumers decide.”
Identical to whats happening right now then!?
I can’t wait for the next instalment of this ludicrous nonsense!
Never ever buy a used barrel from these NB muppets…
You will find the bottom has well and truly been scraped out of it!
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Oh I thought current PC thinking was that Islam invented & built everything?
You mean someone might be lieing to us about how Great Britain is or was?
Why do they want to destroy it?
“They” are not the BNP but they are the mainstream.
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“”Britain is the greatest country in the world – but that doesn’t mean we can just ignore everyone else”"
So , hats off to the BNP because “their influences on the other hand are European.” ?
I suppose one decides whether one wishes to accept foreign ideas-
or foreign people.
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So NB is to tackle the BNP’s flirtation with christianity next?!
How will you say this is a great christian country when we have muggers, rapists, paedophiles, drug addicts, gun-toting youths, homosexuals, single parents, money-grabbing politicians, liars, cheats, thieves, prostitutes, sex-change weirdos and a whole host of other morally corrupt individuals…?
Don’t you dare bang on about christianity when it’s people like you who have encouraged and created the modern day Sodom & Gomorrah!
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More nonsensical ramblings from NB. Jonathan Dupont, you come across as very naïve. Try thinking for yourself and stop just regurgitating the Tory laissez faire view of the world. Better still, get down from your ivory tower, talk to people in the real world and you may then begin to understand why we feel so let down by the corrupt NuLab/NuCon establishment.
I’m looking forward to tomorrow’s instalment on Christianity. As Davey says, you’re starting from a position of extreme weakness!
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God this is getting boring. Where is NB getting this drivel from? Is someone actualy getting paid to post this rubbish up. If so, where can I sign up? Here are a few suggestions to show I also can do your job.
I. Griffin’s middle name is Adolf
2. All BNP members are un-educated
3. All BNP members have killed someone
4. All immigrants would much rather be in there own country
5. UAF were sent here by God
6. More people in the country means a better life
7. The BNP stole the WMD’s before Blair invaded Iraq to make him look silly
8. All crime is a result of the BNP and there odius supporters
9. The BNP are responcible for the banking crisis
10. Why is ukip so crap?
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“Someone needs to take up the gauntlet of rebuffing the BNP claims to represent British Christianity, as there is currently a worrying gaping hole, since Edmund Standing stopped “swimming in the sewers”.” [Stuart]
It certainly will not be NB who are once again clutching at straws.
“British people believe in fair play and tolerance”, indeed we do and we do not get it from NB!
“…rather than protecting greedy capitalists with captive markets…”. This from a tory! LOL!
“The BNP believes that the people is the nation is the state. If you’re parent and your parent’s parents weren’t born here, you can’t be one of us.” A bare faced lie.
“The BNP openly admit that they steal their economic ideas from Asian countries such as Japan, but in truth their ideas have been popular on the continent for much longer.” If the two main parties were to learn from other countries instead of sticking their heads in the sand, perhaps we would have enough money to fund our Armed Forces properly.
“The BNP like to pretend that they’re not a fascist party”. There is no pretence in it. By sticking labels on people and parties, those with no argument to offer, hope to fool the hard-of-thinking.
” Both the BNP and the Nazis are corporatist, protectionist, have both nationalist and socialist influences, believe in a strong state, read Nietzsche and Heidegger, hate finance, are fascinated with environmentalism have both nationalist and socialist influences, and Paganism, distrust modern art, want to censor the media, break up large retailers, institute national service, dislike America and the Jews, and have leaders that admire Mein Kampf.” This is just a desperate, nonsensical rant. Unworthy of further comment.
It is people like the author of this nonsense who have ran this once great nation into the ground. Nothing British in that!
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The British language? What in the name of God’s left bollock are you going on about now?
I suppose that a case could be made for saying that if Scotland had not signed up to the Act of Union then what we call Scots dialect would today be recognised as a language in its own right in much the same was that Portuguese is treated as being different from Spanish. However she did, thus one of her languages is the same as ours – is that the point your wanted to make? If so, where do the Welsh fit into all this?
Actually, of course, you did not want to make a linguistic point, did you? You are either very stupid or you thought that no bugger would notice the gaff.
Britain has many languages. I would argue for English, Scots, the Gaelic of Ireland and Scotland, and finally Welsh. Only a dip would argue that she only has one and that it is called British.
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Ver ygood post – thank you. The firt two corporate victims of the BNP’s policies would be the Co-op and John Lewis – both very successful workers’ cooperatives.
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That’s rubbish. The BNP believes in coopratives and not mass profit for the chosen few unlike the rest of the greedy parasites who put profit before people. Dougal your ill-informed post is just another example of reading tripe and believing it
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Did Nick Griffin say that he rejects Darwinism then Maurice? Do you believe in Darwinism?
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Come to think of it, are you saying that Nick Griffin is a gravity – denier? And what’s poor old Rousseau done to ruffle the feathers of NB?
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“British people believe in fair play and tolerance”
Is that right?!
I’d love to know who these “British” people are you speak so glowingly of!
As I said in a previous post, this nation is now morally bankrupt. They couldn’t care less about “fair play and tolerance”, they are consumed by a greed and apathy which can be traced back directly to the Thatcher legacy!
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The National Socialist leadership of the BNP must hide their real views from the British electorate to get above 1% of the vote in elections. They do this, in part, by hiding behind the British flag and by attempting to appropriate admired national symbols, such as RAF Spitfires.
In reality they hate this country and the majority of people who live here. They seem to regard everyone except themselves as traitors and enemies to their cause – the BBC, the Royal Family, our traditional Social Democratic parties, our legal system, anyone in public life, anyone from an ethnic minority, anyone with liberal views – the list is endless.
The deeply unpleasant mediocrities that lead Britain’s National Socialists have no loyalty at all to this country; a liberal social democracy which has evolved over centuries. The BNP’s leaders stand outside of our traditions and pledge their loyalty to the “white nation”, not ours.
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Another interesting article, NP, making points that the BNP supporters cannot easily or successfully answer, as above inane comments demonstrate.
Keep up the good work!
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NP? Nothing Palestinian?
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Barbara, from the far-left Hope not Hate(yeah right) supporting her tory friends.
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@Barbara Are you the same Barbara from Babs Cabs in the League of Gentlemen?
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It doesn’t matter what is debated here, Barbara, inane or not. What matters is what people do in the ballot box and as yet you and your ilk have no control over that.
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Barbara, These points are answered but the posts are deleted!
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She’s too sensitive to be exposed to rough BNP types like us!
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Barabara,
Here is a previous post that was deleted.
Please read it quickly before the blue puncil strikes again!
It certainly will not be NB who are once again clutching at straws.
“British people believe in fair play and tolerance”, indeed we do and we do not get it from NB!
“…rather than protecting greedy capitalists with captive markets…”. This from a tory! LOL!
“The BNP believes that the people is the nation is the state. If you’re parent and your parent’s parents weren’t born here, you can’t be one of us.” A bare faced lie.
“The BNP openly admit that they steal their economic ideas from Asian countries such as Japan, but in truth their ideas have been popular on the continent for much longer.” If the two main parties were to learn from other countries instead of sticking their heads in the sand, perhaps we would have enough money to fund our Armed Forces properly.
“The BNP like to pretend that they’re not a fascist party”. There is no pretence in it. By sticking labels on people and parties, those with no argument to offer, hope to fool the hard-of-thinking.
” Both the BNP and the Nazis are corporatist, protectionist, have both nationalist and socialist influences, believe in a strong state, read Nietzsche and Heidegger, hate finance, are fascinated with environmentalism have both nationalist and socialist influences, and Paganism, distrust modern art, want to censor the media, break up large retailers, institute national service, dislike America and the Jews, and have leaders that admire Mein Kampf.” This is just a desperate, nonsensical rant. Unworthy of further comment.
It is people like the author of this nonsense who have ran this once great nation into the ground. Nothing British in that!
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Oops!
Barbara, I tried to post the same answers that were deleted twice before but the post disappeared again.
No wonder I tore up my Conservative Party card!
Nothing British in refusing free speech, expecially when the post meets the claimed requirements of the site!
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With respect to comments being deleted, you need to use Sidewiki. You can find it on google toolbar.
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There’s nothing British about this website!
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BNP vote down by 5% in Primrose by-election in Tyneside last night.
The BNP share of the vote has fallen in 16 of the 17 by-elections they have contested since June last year.
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Second behind Liebour, how did your limp dims get on Peter, where did they come in? How did the tories get on Peter. FOOL.
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57% of the votes were postal votes, Liebour have been found rigging the votes before, is it the same here? I don’t know, 57% seems high.
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Thing is, Peter, why are you so scared of the BNP? Why are you so worried? what’s the worst they can do?
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BNP the Dr Pepper of politics!
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A chauvinistic demagogue whipping up anti-muslim sentiment amongst his nationalist supporters. What’s the worst they could do?
Screbrenica.
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I trump you with Iraq & Afghanistan, even more dead by the liberal left’s good intentions.
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Well they couldn’t do much better at that than the present incumbents have done. A marxist government plotting the total destruction of its own people and whipping up hatred and fear amongst the ethnic groups it has dragged to this country and abandoned.
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As far as Srebrenica is concerned there is only one group in this country which has resorted to murder – and it’s not the BNP.
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Peter we trouced the tories in jarrow though,and to your last question what would a British national army fight,Eh your lot.
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Yes ARMYBNP you did indeed trounce the Tories.
I imagine the Tories have been trounced in Jarrow in every election since the early twentieth century. I imagine that Labour has equally always been trounced in parts of Surrey.
You would still need a 14% positive swing to the BNP to win the seat at the next election. That will be difficult seeing your vote went down by 5% this time!
Thanks for revealing the true anti-democratic colours of your party ARMYBNP. It’s plain to see why Griffin takes such an interest in our armed forces.
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Excellent!!!
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Teacher’s pet!
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Seconded!
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If the BNP really were on the up they would be winning seats like that. They went backwards.
The BNP get too much press coverage for their level of support.
Still no council victories for well over a year!
Congratulations to the sensible voters of Primrose.
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Where did your Limp Dims come in Peter? Who is really going backwards, the BNP came in second against a massive anti-campaign. Not happy are you Peter?
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@Peter. As said before, if the BNP were playing on a level field without your parties interferience, lies and violence then we’ed wipe the floor with you. How much money did your party spend in this by-election and how much slander and lies have you had against your party? Not much, if not nill. It’s even come down to that the three main (and corrupt) parties are even helping each other. Now there’s democracy in action
http://www.bnp.org.uk
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I’m very happy thanks. I love seeing those BNP percentages drop.
If the BNP can’t win in a ward like that they can’t win anywhere. Also, I’m not a Lib Dem supporter – I may vote for them tactically though.
I can assure you that the few people in the BNP who know anything about British electoral politics will not be happy with the results from the last year. The writing is on the wall for Griffin and his National Socialist chums; they peaked two years ago.
Why do you think the BNP website has stopped reporting council by-election results? Modesty or embarrassment?
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I’m very happy thanks. I love watching those BNP percentages drop.
I’ll add the facts that the BNP’s Ministry of Truth “forgot” to put on their website today. In 2008 the BNP got 681 votes (32.93%). Last night they got 566 votes (32.93%).The BNP vote went down by 5%.
Face the facts – the BNP peaked two years ago and are now on the slide. Don’t equate notoriety with popularity. The old maxim that there is no such thing as bad publicity does not always hold true.
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Sorry, I forgot to add that the BNP didn’t even put up a candidate in Eastwood ward of Broxtowe South yesterday. They got 16.5% there in the last election.
Another retreat! It’s not mentioned on BNP Pravda though (the website).
All you need to do is find twenty people to sign a nomination form to stand as a candidate! What’s going on BNPers?
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so the british national army would turn on its own people?that would be a militiary junta then,so britain would be a banana republic.
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Of course they would.
The BNP and the hard-core of their supporters hate this country and the vast majority of people who live here. They’d swap Britain tomorrow for an all white fascistic republic.
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Apparently both Griffin and Brons campaigned in Primrose. The BNP also used a truck with slogans on the side. Activists from all over the north canvassed.
Labour beat them by 14% and the main gains were enjoyed by independents. It’s just not happening for the BNP via the ballot box.
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