Griffin is caught out over squaddie vote

BNP leader Nick Griffin MEP has been accused of “misrepresenting the truth” about squaddies not being allowed to vote in the up-coming General Election.

In a recent video to party members Griffin told activists how he met with two British soldiers who had recently served in Afghanistan and were angry at how their friends “aren’t going to be allowed to vote.” He goes on to say:

“The British government have set up polling stations in places like Manchester so that Iraqis living here at taxpayers expense can vote in Iraqi elections. But they’ve organised it so that our soldiers serving in Afghanistan, serving this country aren’t allowed to vote in our elections – it’s a disgrace.”

This is cynical politics at its lowest.

Nothing British has spoken to an MOD spokesman, who  denied Griffin’s claims and told us that he was “misrepresenting the truth”.  The MOD said:

“We have had successful campaigns getting Service voters to register and we are working closely with the Ministry of Justice to make suitable provisions for Service personnel in Afghanistan, including fast tracking postal voting forms. Due to operational priorities, no plan we can put in place to fast-track postal voting forms will be infallible but personnel still have the option of voting by proxy and this is what we would recommend them to do.”

This is not the first time that Griffin has twisted facts for political purposes. Back in October 2009, during our Stolen Valour campaign, he told Jon Snow on Channel 4 news that he wore a poppy in his lapel because wounded soldiers in Selly Oak Hospital were forced to pay to watch TV. But when we spoke to the hospital’s staff NB was informed that service personnel’s costs were covered by the MOD.

Griffin’s exploitation of the growing voter scepticism over the war in Afghanistan, anger over kit shortages, and affection towards the British Armed Forces to push through his hate-filled and divisive brand politics with an anti-war twist is morally reprehensible.

Maurice Cousins

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65 Responses to “Griffin is caught out over squaddie vote”

  1. ARMYBNP says:

    Again NB your lying.THIS CRAP THAT BRITISH SOLDIERS EH EH WONT BE ABLE TO VOTE BECAUSE OF THIS AND THAT—— BULLCRAP.DONT YOU FIND IT AMAZING THAT IRAQIS COULD VOTE IN BRITAIN IN SPECIAL PLACES LIKE MANCHESTER ,BIRMINGHAM AND LONDON THESE ROGUES SHOULD HAVE BEEN BOOTED OUT AND SHOULD BE VOTING IN IRAQ——BRITISH SOLDIERS SEE THIS AND THE ONLY REASON IS THE ESTABLISHMENT IS DRAGING ITS FEET IS THAT THEY KNOW THEY ARE ALL GOING TO VOTE –BNP AND WHATS MORE YOU KNOW IT TOO.THIS SITE IS A DISGRACE ASK ANY SOLDIER.

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      Physcotically delusional army”i ve got shrapnel stuck in my brain”bnp

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  2. ARMYBNP says:

    ALSO NB SCORES OF SOLDIERS ARE JOINING THE BNP BY THE DAY—–THEY ARE NOT JOINING ANY OTHER PARTY–DONT YOU FIND THAT AMAZING.

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  3. Peter says:

    It’s just typical Griffin. Dishonest opportunism.

    For years the BNP could get away with their lies in their silly meetings above pubs – because nobody listened or cared.

    Now that people are checking up on their stories they are being exposed for the buffoons they are.

    Keep investigating NB.

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    • ARMYBNP says:

      PETER GET THIS INTO YOUR THICK HEAD EVERY SOLDIER IS GOING TO VOTE BNP.THEY HATE YOU AND YOUR SEACHLIGHT MATES THEY HATE FOREIGNERS OF A CERTAIN RELIGION THEY HATE THE REDS.NOW GO HOME AND TELL YOUR MUMMY.

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    • ARMYBNP says:

      WE TELL THE TRUTH PEOPLE COME ON OUR WEB AND SEE THE TRUTH.THE LAST BUT ONE MEETING I WENT TO WAS HELD IN A COUNCIL CHAMBER FOR THE BNP.——-STOP TELLING LIES.

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    • maurice says:

      Thanks Peter.

      The BNP are quick to say they have been defamed or lied about, but won’t call up the MOD to check their own facts. It is a disgrace.

      @ ArmyBNP

      We have seen no evidence of support. Please show us the evidence. There are more veterans in a local Conservative club than in the entire BNP.

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    • Nice Try says:

      So what was Peter Oborne doing when he wrote the article,
      “Is there a sinister Labour plot to stop British troops voting in the election?” in the Daily Mail last Saturday?

      (sorry for not linking the article, but I have a feeling this will make my comment languish needlessly in moderation, just Google the title)

      Was Mr Oborne “misrepresenting the truth,” “exploting growing scepticism,” or perhaps exhibiting “dishonest opportunism,” while pushing “through his hate-filled and divisive brand politics [sic]“?

      Once again, the virtually identical point is valid, provided it is not made by someone who threatens the chance of a Tory majority in a hung parliament.

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  4. ARMYBNP says:

    TO SAM, GOOD MORNING YOU IMMIGRIANT.HAVE YOU AND PETER JUST GOT OUT OF BED.

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      what you slevering about now you thick babboon.utp

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  5. MLJ says:

    Maurice you’ve not got your facts straight – again. See what one of your MPs Richard Benyon has to say about this.

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    • maurice says:

      Well then he is wrong too. Does that mean that mainstream politicians are only telling the truth if they agree with Griffin? Hardly a reliable method of searching for truth.

      Plus, what does that say to you that a Tory MP disagrees with us and has got it wrong over this? That we are an independent campaign.

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    • MLJ says:

      See his speech in PM’s questions March 11th. It’s your own fault I couldn’t put this more fully at first – you either moderate or delete my longer posts.
      Incoherent little answer there Mo!

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  6. MLJ says:

    Why do you keep up this weird rhetoric about the BNP “exploiting” issues which are causing genuine concern? If the public is worried about something then obviously they will turn to the party which seeks to address the problem .That’s what politics is about.The three main parties are,as you well know,terrified of losing the votes of a certain sector,so there are issues that they can not and will not offer any solutions to.

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  7. MLJ says:

    Hiatus wherein Maurice/Peter frantically goes off to check his “facts”.

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    • maurice says:

      Alas I wish I had the time.

      Unfortunately, I have work to be getting on with.

      I monitor the comments from time to time. We have a spam filter with key words and phrases.

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  8. 9xzulug says:

    bnparmy i take it everything griffin says you agree with.from the moment you become a HOLOCAUST denier your a liar.why are you so obsessed with a man who’s only agenda is to divide our country?whats your view on HITLER,do you think is was right in what he tried to do?was your grandparents correct in standing up to facist/racist/homophobics.if it wasnt for the commonwealth you would not be here spouting off griffin’s rhetoric.my kids are mixed race,i was born here,what do you suggest we do to accomodate your hatred towards my family?pls feel free to be honest,sticks and stones my break my bones but your name calling will never hurt me.peace n unity leads to HARMONY

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    • Davey says:

      “was your grandparents correct in standing up to facist/racist/homophobics”

      Most peoples grandparents are racist and homophobic you idiot, they were from a different era where homsexuality was(quite rightly) frowned upon and immigrants were treated with suspicion!

      They fought for the love of their OWN people and nation!

      “if it wasnt for the commonwealth you would not be here spouting off griffin’s rhetoric”

      Why where would we be?! What you mean to say is YOU would not be here to spout off YOUR rhetoric!

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      Its uncle Alberts son!!!!

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    • reguired says:

      Are you still in the same relationship with the person you had kids with?

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  9. MLJ says:

    Good grief! Which swamp did you just crawl out from 9xzulug?

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  10. MLJ says:

    Oh by the way 9xzulug – the country has already been split – into many pieces. Where have you been living? Barnsley with a tent and donkey?

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    • Peter says:

      It was Burnley.

      Pendle Hill and the Forest of Bowland.

      Great places. Great people.

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  11. Kenny says:

    Kenny:

    “‘“misrepresenting the truth”

    That is something coming from us conservatives. We would not know the truth if it was there in front of us.

    David Cameron is a kiddie fiddler, you have heard it here first on Nothing British, in fact the whole of the shadow cabinet are sexual deviants.

    Think i will loose my job for this, but who cares the BNP are ace.”

    Kenny, please don’t try and pretend to be someone else again, or you’ll be banned.

    Thank you

    Jonathan

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  12. Shaun says:

    9xzanulab, How do you feel about poisitive discrimination, operation black vote, do these anti white labour funded operations agree with you?
    You and your “mixed race” children need not fear the BNP, the BNP wish to promote equality to all, unlike the clear anti-white policies that will only lead to more segregation in the future, for my white children and your mixed raced children, the BNP is the ONLY way for true harmony!

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  13. Exile says:

    “Not being aloud (sic) to vote.” Mo, I know that you are not a native speaker of the language but could you at least try?

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  14. Hepworth says:

    Time to take a refresher course at Eton, Harrow or wherever you wasted your education boys- “aloud”??? Who wrote this post?
    6 of the best for you boy.

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    • Peter says:

      Are you the BNP’s shadow spokesperson for spelling, punctuation and grammar?

      You’ll have some difficulties convincing people that your party would be a responsible custodian of the English language. The majority of your members seem to employ a simple patois rather than standard English.

      They must have developed this pidgin tongue at their cult meetings; merging their sub-GCSE English with some randomly deployed terms from conspiracy theories. Adding a few set phrases copied by rote from Cult-Fuehrer Puffin’s speeches provides the finishing touch.

      It makes you wonder what they did at school.

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    • MLJ says:

      At least we didn’t learn anything sitting in a NB seminar with Barbara. EST or what? Creepy.

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  15. Hepworth says:

    Now now Pete. I can understand your embarrassment but that’s no excuse for abusing those who didn’t have the advantage of a superior education, (obviously wasted in your case).
    In my office boy now!!

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  16. Hepworth says:

    This is a test comment.
    I’ve noticed that if you use their names you go to moderation. just a thought.
    By the way, my code to post the comment is – BNPV. Victorious??

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  17. Hepworth says:

    Yes peeps. Avoid their names and avoid moderation.

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  18. Yorkshireman says:

    How does poster calling himself ARMYBNP know that all our servicemen and women are going to vote BNP ?

    I think that ARMYBNP is not a soldier, not in the army and in actual fact is a propogandist for the BNP.

    It is a well known fact that BNP members and supporters are currently flooding blogging sites, and as per usual spreading many untruths and disguising who they are

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  19. AussieAl says:

    NB should be pursuing the government over this disgrace. Whether by accident or design, to not facilitate voting by military personelle, runs contrary to the spirit of democracy.

    But so does supporting the UAF, which LieCon and NB seem to do.

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  20. JOHN says:

    Iam an ex squadie, and I can comfirm the army is full of BNP suporters.

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  21. PigsArts says:

    So our brave soldiers can be trusted to die for democracy in foreign lands, but not to participate in democracy at home.

    ArmyBNP is probably right when he states that a lot of members of the army support the BNP. Those snivelling rats who go by the names of Brown and Cameron, are deliberately disenfranchising military personel, as they will do anything to prevent the BNP gaining any traction. Their support for the anarchists and foreign troublemakers in the UAF is evidence of that.

    NB do themselves another disservice by attacking Griffin over this one.

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  22. del stewart says:

    i and many of my mates ar ex army but all of us to a man will put an x in the bnp box

    you know nothing of what you speak

    doing something for your country may be a waste of time
    doing nothing is a crime

    the saying youre not as daft as you look is always better then appearing smarter than you are

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  23. Steve says:

    “This is not the first time that Griffin has twisted facts for political purposes”

    He would make a good MP then!

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  24. Peter says:

    @ARMY4%,

    I’ve had a good look at BNP-Pravda.com.

    It’s like the BNP – slow, dull-witted and full of half-truths and bare-faced lies.

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  25. MLJ says:

    Peter/Maurice has no one ever told you that you lose an argument immediately you resort to abusive language?

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  26. MLJ says:

    I bet that if you “called up” the MOD and asked them if every soldier was properly equipped to go to war, they’d say, “Yes” – and how true would that be?

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  27. Davey says:

    “There are more veterans in a local Conservative club than in the entire BNP”

    You don’t have to be a member or even a supporter of the tory party to drink in their club…

    Go in one sometime maurice, people are only there for the cheap drink not because of any commitment to the party, even I’ve been known to frequent them on the odd occasion when funds are running low!

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  28. MLJ says:

    I bet that if you “called up” the MOD and asked them if every soldier was properly equipped to go to war, they’d say, “Yes” – and how true would that be?

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  29. MLJ says:

    Yeah! Tee Hee – well get rid of the spam then! How does it get through your ridiculous CaptchaCode and your rigorous (when applied to anti NBers) “moderating” skills?
    Wriggle Maurice,wriggle.

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  30. Barbara says:

    There you go with those exaggerations again.
    I know plenty of soldiers who would never vote for the BNP, and who have already made voting arrangements without any trouble or drama whatsoever.

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  31. ARMYBNP says:

    Barbara the only soldiers you met that wont vote BNP are all foriegn mercenaries.ALL THE ONES I MEET ARE GOING TO VOTE BNP—I KNOW I GO THE EX ARMY MEETING YOU DONT.

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  32. ARMYBNP says:

    BABs,ask yourself this vital question why do i get more thumbs up than you,BECAUSE YOU AND PETER TELL PORK PIES.

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  33. MLJ says:

    Know a lot of soldiers do you Barbara?

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  34. Barbara says:

    I know soldiers who say they will not vote BNP, that they will never vote for such a party, so your claims otherwise are wildly over the top, as usual.
    You do not and can not speak for all soldiers.
    I respect your military experiences and the sacrifices you have made as a good soldier.
    But your exaggerated claims on every topic are beginning to seem rather silly.

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  35. MLJ says:

    You’re wrong Maurice. this time you are obviously,glaringly wrong.This throws even more doubt on all the other spurious,scurrilous “articles” you’ve come up with.

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  36. Nice Try says:

    I am being moderated after all it seems. So here for convenience sake is the link (I’m also going to try html tags so sorry if it gets messed up):

    Daily Mail, 20th March 2010 – Is there a sinister Labour plot to stop British troops voting in the election? – by Peter Oborne

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  37. maurice says:

    Nice Try George I*ler.

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  38. Nice Try says:

    “Nice Try George I*ler”??

    Mr Cousins, if I play along with this game in which you think you know who I am, is there any chance, whatsoever, that you might answer my question?

    What is the difference broadly between Nick Griffin’s comment that you called divisive hate-filled politics, and Peter Oborne’s article in the Mail last Saturday, other than the fact that Griffin threatens the Tory vote?

    Also, if my name is George I*ler, why are you using it? Are you attempting to threaten me with some sort of exposure unless I stop so consistently pointing out your inadequacies? In which case, how would the 4th Baron Bethell square this with your organization’s “relationship with free speech”?

    There is Nothing British about Stalinist scare tactics Mr Cousins.

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  39. Sam Pauli says:

    it wouldnt be surprising if there d be another rising said The Man From The Daily Mail

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  40. Sam Pauli says:

    dont give up the leafleting job ,spanner

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  41. Sam Pauli says:

    Whts the difference between armynutjob,reguired,mlj and princessbnp?princessbnp has got larger test i cles than the other 3.

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  42. reguired says:

    It’s not what your missus said sad sam wee balls.

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  43. Sam Pauli says:

    How vewy vewy pwedictable..you must have been the one who couldnt rise to the occasion.she said you had a little moustache and a funny walk and spoke with a german accent,i asked her was he nazi,and she said,not really but he was rather rude.

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  44. MLJ says:

    oh so what do you want to be called now – Simon or Peter? Or shall we go Biblical and call you Simon Peter?

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  45. Sam Pauli says:

    Peter Simon ,didnt he present Blue Peter?

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  46. Sam Pauli says:

    this isnt the Jeremy Kyle show,so WHAT is your point ?

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  47. reguired says:

    You are a prime candidate for that show sam, long term unemployed, thick with bad social skills.

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  48. Sam Pauli says:

    Thats it small person .Why do wee guys have a persecution complex?Youd quite obviousley be on Jerry Springer,as he took on the Klan.

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  49. Peter says:

    Heil Spode!

    Conspiracies, conspiracies…

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  50. Hepworth says:

    A lesson in how to cover your embarrassment old boy?
    Abuse those who don’t have the opportunity of an elitist education??
    See me in my study lad.

    (This was my previous post in which I used his name and was moderated. a lesson for us all).

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