Robert Grierson has sought to spin the whole “BNP barrister” affair by saying he is living proof of how his party is not “a party of skinheads and knuckle-draggers.” Self-evidently he is not a street thug with a long history of neo-Nazism.
But does this mean that the BNP has successfully managed to purge itself of weirdos, racists and extremists?
It’s a mixed result.
On a national level the BNP says that it is not racist, but admits it is anti-immigration. But the problem for the BNP is that it is not simply an “anti-immigrant” party like UKIP, it is a racial hygienist party.
Griffin’s second most important message for the 2010 general election, after Afghanistan, is to talk about “immigrant colonisation” and the ”cultural genocide” of Britain. Locally the party’s website says that Birmingham’s “ethnically British” population is being “cleansed”.
The party spreads its messages of hate by dispatching entrenched Holocaust revisionists and sectarians. In February 2010 Arthur Kemp, foreign affairs spokesman, spoke at a South Birmingham BNP meeting. Kemp, who is a South African immigrant himself, told his audience:
“The Africans objected to being colonised by Europeans, and this objection is accepted worldwide as correct and just.
“But if Africans objected to being colonised by Europeans, then Europeans have the same right to object to being colonised by Africa or the Third World, which is exactly what is happening with current Third World immigration levels into Britain and all western nations”.
“[The BNP] is an anti-colonial party and let us here tonight in Birmingham launch our anti-colonial struggle.”
And local officials and activists?
Tanya Jane Lumby, who announced Grierson’s candidature, is the East Midlands organiser. Her husband is also heavily involved as an organiser.
Lumby was recently listed on the EHRC’s submission as one of three senior BNP officials including Nick Griffin and Simon Darby when court proceedings were brought against the extremist party.
She is a Facebook “fan” of Soldiers off the Street, the BNP linked veterans organisation run by former Welsh organiser Bill Murray. Murray is also listed as being a “friend”.
However, her Facebook “friends” are a little more disturbing. She is associated with a number of high-profile, next generation white nationalist extremists including Mark Collett and Chris Beverley.
But it is local activists who best exemplify the half-hearted reforms implemented by Griffin.
In September 2009 it was reported that Mike Bell, a Midlands BNP activist, and a number of other local members attended “Fest der Volker”, neo-Nazi festival and rock concert. The festival is organised by Germany’s NPD and contains a large number of members of Blood and Honour. Swedish ultra-nationalists spoke about the preservation of the white race and the threat of European Muslims.
What is the Tory party made up of? What is the Labour party made up of? Any suggestions er..oh yes and that other “main” party..well admittedly no one knows what that’s made up of.
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TRAITORS ?
Nothing British by name Nothing British by nature.
If you want a future for your Children and Grandchildren then you don’t vote for a load of TREASONUS MILLIONAIRES .
How many CONServatives send their children to crappy State Schools ?
I think this sites creators need to read this http://www.webmesh.co.uk/englishbillofrights1689.htm
Then get themselves to the nearest Gallows and do the honourable thing.
If your not for Britain and the British then you are TRAITORS.
Definately NOTHING british about the this CONServative bunch of chinless Toffs.
VOTE BNP
Let’s get our country back and make it GREAT again.
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God here we go again with the same old claptrap.NB are you sure your not secret BNP members.
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macho macho man he wants to be a macho man
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A up date NB and your co-horts since the ban was lifted.2000 recruits have so far been processed.THATS GREAT NEWS MANY WANT TO BECOME ACTIVISTS TOO.
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so macho he is so macho
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NB we have alot more suprises coming your way.Already 200 PPCS have declared their intention to stand for the BNP.More to be declared when the time is right,this with the 1000 plus counciliors that your mates in Seachlight are predicting that we may stand,but we are keeping information very close to our chests.P.S have a rotten day.
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I think Army BNP that this website is seriously backfiring on NB and their backers! They even have to block pro BNP posts to try to strengthen their argument. I’ve seen others stop coming to this site because they can not put forward their reasoned arguments.
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Perhaps they stopped coming because they didn’t like having their paper-thin arguments challenged?
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Which book did you read? Why did you refute the idea that lives were lost and blood shed during invasions and conquests of this country? What was it you said about that?
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ARMYBNP/MLJ, I agree.
Every time we challenge Maurice, Jonathan D, Peter etc for a proper debate on policies, they run away! All they want to do is to follow the Goebbels line, “if you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it”. Fortunately people are beginning to question the establishment’s continuous outpouring of abuse towards the BNP, and are going to the BNP website to see the truth for themselves.
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It’s the pro-BNPers who seem to be disappearing, Jim.
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@Jim,
Please outline these BNP policies. People on this site have been asking for the BNP’s solutions for ages but you never post them.
Is it because you don’t know what BNP policies are or because you have surrendered your individuality to the Griffin cult? Maybe you are not allowed to talk about policy by your local cult organisers. I know that local cult branches are not allowed to have official BNP web-pages or blogs – as the ideologues in central office don’t trust in the intelligence of their disciples.
Most of what we get from BNP posters here is whinging about how much they hate their country and streams of conspiracies and dumbed-down claptrap.
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What are you Peter Penny a Post? An ostrich? Read the papers or look at the news on the internet.We are in a bad state.
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Why are you twittering so about the BNP then?
It may your alloted Herculean task to explain your politics and philosophy to me on a daily basis. Embrace it with a glad and cheerful heart.
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That is so true – I’m so glad you posted that Jim. This website is not an open forum for discussion it is a censored, one-sided anti BNP rant.
As Jim says, for anyone who wants to know the truth go to the BNP website. They put up news the controlled media daren’t show and they get to hear everything first. And it’s accurate, which is more than can be said for NB.
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@Roderick Spode,
Calm down and pull yourself together!
I’d love to stop and debate your latest conspiracy theory but I’m delivering anti-bonehead leaflets today.
Heil Spode!
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Hi Pound a Post Peter. You’ve not got the slightest idea of how to debate. How much is UAF paying you to give out leaflets?
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NB facebook has a lot of bnp members that must mean NB is bnp!
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Define Hypocrisy;
The group of people who complain about Islam invading Britain and limiting free speech while themselves invading Facebook groups.
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PETER DONT YOU MEAN NO HOPE.ASLO MORE GREAT NEWS 6 MORE CANDIDATES HAVE COME FORWARD TODAY.
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Thanks , NB – without this site , I would have missed what Arthur Kemp said.
I agree with his comments.
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@Nicholas,
I see you agree with his comments.
I wonder why he has to publish his books himself and he cant get published in peer-reviewed journals?
Either he’s a charlatan or the whole academic world is against you.
Have athink about that next time he tries to sell you a book at a meeting above a dingy pub.
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13 words is the moderation limit is it?
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Ah. Thanks reguired. Is it only if attached top “certain” emails? “Keywords” don’t seem to apply. Well some do such as cl*ss. Why are they bothered about that?
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@Reg,
“13 words is the…limit…”
Nothing British is conspiring against The Fourteen Words!
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Where’s “Sam”, AKA Leigh from north of the border?
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Irvine?
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Peter et al , can only muster the same stock standard responses to some arguments put forward. I dont recall much at all in the way of racism on this site over the past 6 months or so, and yet i, and others are derided as racist, in spite of reasoned and measured postings. But i would not expect much else from the pc brigade.
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They are all paid posters working to Maurice’s script.
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@InvoiceAl,
“I don’t recall much in the way of racism on this site over the past six months or so…”
I dread to think what you regard as racism, Al.
You routinely dismiss dark skinned people’s intelligence, morality and worth. Most civilised people would regard that as racism Al – but then maybe you interpret my argument as a “stock response” from the “PC brigade”.
What you describe as “reasoned and measured postings” I regard as cynical and duplicitous attempts to present your white supremacism as something moderate and natural.
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You and Barbara and Simon are the ones who do that. I was colourblind until people like you taught me to see colour. I thought all men were equal until you and your ilk told me they weren’t.
Do you know how offensive your attitudes are?
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Kemp obviously comes from British stock, unless he is an albino matabele
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I did not see a difference in shade until you taught me to. I thought we were all equal until you told me we weren’t. You, and people like you did it Peter.
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“I did not see a difference in shade until you taught me to. I thought we were all equal until you told me we weren’t.”
I’ve been repeatedly telling you that I think all men are brothers.
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Words changed in post above due to Maurice’s over-sensitivity.
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People like you Peter see difference where others do not. Do you realise how offensive that is?
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@MLJ,
I do see the difference between “They’re”, “Their”, and “there”, MLJ. I recognise that many BNPers do not. What on earth is offensive about that?
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They are typing quickly,with passion.Not as a PPP.
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Honestly Maurice why do you have to make this site more of a disaster than it needs to be.Post with the most mild content are getting moderated. And you just leave them in moderation.
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Do you work in the Equality Industry (there’s big money in that) as well as earning a pound a post, Peter?
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Nobody pays people to comment on blogs!
Who do you think would pay? The Tories? The Jews? It doesn’t make any sense MLJ – it’s just a blog with a dodgy moderation system.
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Why on earth do you think I’d say it if I didn’t know it to be the case? Maybe your posts are just one big lie but mine are not.
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Peter if it was one jew.killed it was one too many.I have been there to the camps of death.This bothers me AUSWISTCH.WAS TAKEN BY THE RED ARMY,WHO WERE KILLING THE INMATES AFTER THE NAZIS LEFT.THE SOVIETS AND THEIR NKVD POLICE WERE THE MOST RUTHLESS THUGS EVER,REMEMBER THE SOVIETS ONLY GAVE OUT INFORMATION THAT SUITED THEM.HENCE WHY LATE FATHER DETESTED THE COMMUNISTS.
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@ARMYBNP,
Those were terrible days ARMYBNP. That’s why we should never go back.
More than one Jew was killed ARMYBNP – six million were killed.
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Peter
i question the contribution of uneducated, illiterate people from the third world. I would add that they are also unskilled, do not speak English and require public housing and welfare. Considering there are enough of the above in Britain, am i a racist because i question the policy of importing even more?
You are narrow minded, have no respect for your culture and history, and contribute to the slow death of western civilisation.
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@InvoiceAl,
The mask slips to reveal your thinly veiled racism when you talk of “importing” people – as if they were goods – or slaves. You were quoted dozens of examples of the contributions made by blacks and Asians to British life by commenters on this blog Al. You ignored them all.
You seek to frame the debate around the “unskilled” and the needy as that is the way you see people with darker skin. You use the immigration debate as a Trojan Horse to smuggle your segregationist and white supremacist views in to our political debates.
You say I am narrow-minded and have no respect for my history and culture. That is ridiculous. You only say it because my open-mindedness does not extend to the wild and wacky shores of the international white supremacy movement. I have no respect for the invented history and pseudo-science of Arthur Kemp and his fellow BNP charlatans.
You say I am contributing to the slow death of western civilisation. That would be a bit difficult from the comments section of a blog. I think you mean that I do not stand for white segregation and that I don’t stand against racial mixing. You are quite right there Al.
Civilisation is not measured by race or skin colour. It doesn’t die as races mix. Ours is measured by its great democratic institutions and our way of life, and also by our humane and tolerant values amongst many other things.
The intellectual pygmies of the white nationalist movement have added nothing to our civilisation. They are a dirty stain upon it.
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That is most certainly what people like you, PPP, are doing. And all for very short term political gain or from utter brain dead stupidity.
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Peter did you read in the Mail about your foreign scum mates decimating our river wild life in and around Peterbrough.So much for their enrichment of British society.KILLING SWANS USED TO BE A HANGABLE OFFENCE.
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Just a thouught NB.Is Peter Hain a hero of yours.
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@ACTIONMAN,
I prefer John Cruddas.
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He must be he delivers leaflets for UAF.
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whilst you deliver them for the nazis MLJ More Leaflets John
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What,the same leaflets,Sam? Oh,I don’t think that would work! You and PPP both seem to have Deutschland on the brain. Why John? Is that a Govan term of endearment?
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aye Jock aye!!!you are a strange little fellow arent you…does reguired tell you the worlds out to get you,is that why you believe it…is he your nazi guru?
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i love the accent coming through in the posts of sami.
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nae bother mucker wha s like us n aw that
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NB
Arthur Kemp should be well regarded when talking about White colonisation of Africa, and the subsequent African colonisation of Europe. After all, he is a descendent of the colonists, who has had to flee the ever increasingly racist policies of Mugabe and Zuma. While it is ok for Africans to descriminate against white settlers in Africa ( often violently ), why is it not ok to question the colonisation of Europe by these unskilled, uneducated African dropouts?
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“unskilled, uneducated…dropouts”
You are describing the BNP core-voter, Al.
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Just Like NB!
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I leaflet for Hope not Hate and I do it for free!
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Yeeuuuch!
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What not even a penny?
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That was a quick round then. Two houses? Get chased off did you? Poodle or Rotweiler?
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I HOPE YOU GET CHASED DOWN THE GARDEN PATH
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By a HUGE Rotweiler.
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I don’t want your poor donkey to get hurt though – so we’ll make it a poodle – big enough to scare you!
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peter when you give out leaflets don’t forget to tell the white Brits they’re not indigenous, they are Africans so just put up with mass immigration.
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when you give out leaflets don’t forget to tell the white Brits they’re not indigenous, they are Africans so just put up with mass immigration.
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More Spode policies here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShRf1svMcuA&feature=related
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Nope. They kept complaining about their posts being moderated and then they stopped coming to the site. I can tell you that they were extremely intelligent people far more clever than you,me or Maurice and they knew what they were talking about.
They were silenced by censorship.
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No peter unlike you they wanted to answer questions and question this site.
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@Reg,
You never answered my question though, did you? Do you remember my question, Reg?
How many Jews did the Nazis murder in the Holocaust?
Approximately.
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You even refused to say which word you thought accurately described what the Nazis did to the Jews during World War Two.
I asked you to choose between Holohoax or Holocaust.
I said Holocaust. I’m still waiting for your answer, Reg.
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What’s your view? What is your number and where do you get it from?Where is the information freely available?
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@Spode,
Approximately six million Jews were murdered in The Holocaust. That is the commonly accepted total. A roughly comparable figure will be found in all reputable books, websites etc.
If, like the “BNP wife” from Yorkshire, you have some “doubts about the numbers”, you could answer the other question, couldn’t you?
Holohoax or Holocaust?
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Where did 6 million die peter,in Auschwitz the number went down from 4 million to 1.1 million and sit no facts. You don’t do facts do you peter? Dogma thats what you do.
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How many died from typhus peter?
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I answered your question, Maurice decided not to show it. Unlike you peter i answer questions.
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@Reg,
I do not know how many died from typhus, hunger, beatings, torture, sick experiments or any other barbarity that happened in the Nazi death camps, Reg. They wouldn’t have died if the white Nationalists hadn’t put them in the camps, would they?
It is very telling that the BNPers who post on here – not just you Reg – will rarely admit that some Jews “died” but never that they were “murdered”. Well they were Reg. In their millions – as the Nationalists tried to exterminate the European Jewry.
Not one BNPer on here has recognised that there was a Holocaust. The BNP remains a magnet and safe haven for Holcaust Deniers.
I get my information about The Holocaust from reputable sources like the Holocaust Memorial Trust and I believe the information they provide.
If you think the internet research of David Coles necessitates a revision of conventional history I suggest you refer his work to the HMT or similar body. If I had time to read a BNP nut-job I’d read Dick Muffin’s “Who are the Mindbenders?” booklet – the one where he thinks Gaby Roslin is part of a Jewish plot on out TVs.
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Absolute rot Pound/Penny A Post Peter oh sorry it’s penny per leaflet for UAF.
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Penny a Post YOU justify the policies of UAF or whatever outlandish Marxist body you intend voting for. We don’t have to justify ourselves. You do.Tell us,if you like about the Liebour policies which have brought this country to its knees. Do you ever read the news? Too busy teaching macrame at the local Adult Learning Centre and riding on your donkey?
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Pound/Penny A Post Peter,trying out the old Maurice manual “justify yourself” routine again? Well it won’t wash. You and your ilk set up this site with the specific intention of destroying the BNP so you have to do all the talking,mate. We’re all ears.
If you want to know about BNP policies contact Nick Griffin – MR GRIFFIN to the likes of you. I’m sure he’d be more than happy to discuss them with you, if he has the time to spare.
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@Roderick Spode,
Are these your policies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulVoWankDK4&feature=related
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@Spode,
I’ve told you loads of times about who I’ll be voting for – you ask me nearly every day.
I’ve even outlined my political philosophy for you a couple of times.
I’ve told you lots of times that I support the Hope not Hate campaign and Nothing British. I’ve also told you that I don’t support the tactics of the UAF.
Maybe you don’t like my answers – fair enough – but I don’t see what else I can do.
I don’t accept your view that the country is on its knees – far from it. I think most British people are far more resilient than you must be. It’s a national characteristic – Keep Calm and Carry On! I don’t believe whinging about things will do any good whatsoever.
There are obviously important economic decisions to be made about the direction that the country should take. That’s what the General Election will be about. Will the country take a “centre-left” or “centre-right” direction? That’s going to be the real question during the next six weeks or so.
Nobody’s going to give a hoot about the BNP because they haven’t got a credible economic policy. And who is their “shadow chancellor”? Nobody knows! The BNP can’t even do their party accounts and have had four treasurers in a year!
It’s going to be Darling, Osborne and Cable. Not Dave Hannam!
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National characteristic !!!!
BTW why 88??
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You just make it up as you go along PPP.
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SAM Song Shebeen youtube
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Is that our Sam?
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are you stalking me reguired?weirdo
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Do you seriously believe someone is paying people to post anti-BNP comments on a blog?
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Yup! Why, don’t you seriously believe everything you post?
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That’s crazy stuff, MLJ.
I think you are just paranoid about the moderation on this site. Believe me, I’ve got plenty of sarcastic comments waiting in moderation. Some of them never appear too.
There’s no conspiracy, MLJ. It’s just people arguing about politics.
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But my comments aren’t sarcastic or rude they are factual and as well thought through as I can make them.
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Personally, I don’t think there is any logic to the moderation.
The only pattern I notice is that comments with links to other sites always seem to go into moderation.
I’ve posted a couple of video clips of Roderick Spode outlining his policies to the masses for you – but you’ll have to wait for the moderation to be done.
Unlike you he is prepared to outline his manifesto.
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My reply to your comment predictably went into moderation!
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Think I believe that?
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It’ll be posted in due course.
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What like mine are…NOT.They disappear into Maurice’s sock drawer..never to be seen again
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Quite a few of mine never appear too.
It’s only the comments section of a blog, MLJ.
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I don’t like Maurice’s sock drawer.
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I go on about the BNP because I like foreigners and I don’t like to see them slagged off.
Come on, Spode, you know what “88″ means.
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You and Barbara are the only ones who ever do any slagging off PPP.
88???
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18 Adolf Hitler
14 Fourteen Words
88 Heil Hitler
28 Blood and Honour
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I still don’t understand. Are you obsessed with the German regime we went to war with?
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well you seem obsessed with the same racial ideoligies that the german race were brainwashed into believing.
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Yes,Sam,that’s exactly what I was saying. Peter Penny A Post does seem Germanically obsessed.
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Auf Wiedersehn to Crossmaglen
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Are you a creationist? I don’t believe that Barbara ever replied to me on that one.
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@MLJ,
I didn’t doubt that people died during invasions, wars, skirmishes etc. Not at all. I just asked you to consider that most history books over-emphasise wars and strife. Most people died from disease or old age. They led peaceful undramatic lives centred on the home, the farm, the sea, the market and the road.
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@MLJ,
No, I am not a creationist.
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So now we’re talking about uncertainty and the possibility that history books over-emphasise events. Are we? Or maybe that (thinking about Richard 111) propaganda sometimes plays a part in the writing of history. Ummm yes PPP, thanks! You have some very interesting ideas!
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@MLJ,
If you have uncertainty about the conventional views of The Holocaust why not just say so? I’m not stopping you. I’d be interested to read your views. I ‘m trying to get you to answer the question.
You also still haven’t done my 50-50.
Holocaust or Holohoax.
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It wasn’t me you were hounding with that question.There are things which I have never questioned, like the evil nature of Richard The Third, for example. There is a society seeking to clear his name. Now, if they bizarrely became the Government and told me that I was now virtually legally obliged to believe in his character reformation I would wish to research their claims.
Then they make it illegal to even ask the question……
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It’s not illegal to ask a question, MLJ. That is nonsense. It is not illegal to “deny” the holocaust or to “doubt the numbers”.
You simply refuse to answer the question – or to tell me what you think if you feel a more nuanced answer is required.
I believe the ethno-nationalist policies of the Nazis led to the murder of six million Jews. What do you believe, MLJ?
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Why don’t you just calm down and read my answer to you, PPP, properly. Those are my feelings and my beliefs. I go in for neither denial nor blind acceptance.Nor will I be told what I must believe.
You are acting like the Spanish Inquisition and we haven’t come to that….yet.
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If you know so much about the holocaust peter, answer David Coles 46 questions educate us all.
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@MLJ8-19,
I see that you think propaganda plays a role it the writing of history but I see absolutely nothing about what you think happened in the Nazi death camps.
Do you believe that the Nazis killed millions of Jews or do you believe that it’s all a holohoax, “a monstrous lie”?
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People were killed in work camps, it’s a fact, now answer David Coles 46 questions you know everything, know nothing lefty. Educate me.
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“Work camps” – as in Arbeit Macht Frei?
I’ve posted you a longer reply it’s in moderation.
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Just learn to read, Peter! Or should we perhaps call you Witch Finder General from now on?
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Ah PPP. I was right, you are a writer of fiction (between penny a posting and delivering leaflets for the Moonies). And, judging by your bitterness,a rejected one at that!
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What are you on about now, MLJ?
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Well,in that scenario, you would be jealous of a published author.
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So what , Peter ? You may as well say Van Gogh was useless because he couldn’t sell his paintings.
Anyway , I am NOT the advocate for Mr.Kemp .Simply , on the quoted comments , I agree.
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@Nicholas,
Van Gogh was an artist with a revolutionary new artistic style and vision. People didn’t understand him.
Kemp sells snake oil on the fringe of conventional historical debates, writing pamphlets for racialists. As a historian he is not a misunderstood genius. He is a charlatan.
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You don’t think that I’m your brother.
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Yes, I do.
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AAAAAh!
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Judging others is always offensive PPP. Denying the blatantly obvious in order to bully and control is also very offensive.
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@MLJ,
I don’t think judging others is always offensive. My comment was simply rude – on purpose.
I was implying that many of the self-proclaimed custodians of our nation’s heritage struggle with basic English.
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When typing it is easy to make very basic errors and on this particular forum mistakes can’t be rectified.
Tin foil hat time – I am not certain that I understand the true purpose of this site.
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Everyone can read and edit their comment before posting it.
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Anyone who makes a typo is probably posting quickly,with passion. Not as a cold calculation to earn a pound.
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Typing with
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P*ssion,not to earn money.
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Oh yes they do!
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If you won’t tell me your political policies at least tell me your theories about the paid anti-BNP commenters.
It sounds like loopy stuff to me.
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Not loopy.Fact.
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Well what are these facts then?
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Fact. Webmasters employ people to post on blogs or fora/forums either to promote a particular point of view or to make them appear busier than they really are and thus encourage other users.Sometimes Webmaster’s friends and family post for them.
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That sounds like the world of advertising not the world of political blogs.
How many people do you think actually read this comments section – rather than the blog posts? More than ten? I doubt it.
Not a very efficient way to spend money.
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Look I don’t care what you think – I happen to know.
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I’ve posted a long reply to InvoiceAl’s comment. It’s in moderation, MLJ.
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Yeah! With your donkey,the leaflets,all of UAF and Maurice’s socks!! Oh, not forgetting the tent.
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Yes peter but you are a T….W….A….T
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you dont half talk some keech boy
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Temper, Reg!
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You’re singing as you post,aren’t you Sam?
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yes singing my heart out,but im not a fash whos got a big stick rammed up their greasy pole,and who have forgotten how to smile and have fun,like you mlj ,like you son
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What the same leaflets,Sam? Oh, I don’t think that would work.You and PPP do seem to have Deutschland on the brain today.Why are you calling me John? Is that a Govan term of endearment?
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I suppose you and your donkey camp in Barking do you?
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keep the hat oan son keep the hat oan
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