Nick Griffin with ND president Marc Abramsson at RWB in Derbyshire (August 2009)
Nick Griffin wants to portray himself as a “British Bulldog”, but his courting of international fascists and extremists is anything but patriotic.
BNP propaganda regularly abuses the images of Churchill and the Spitfire, ignoring both their original purpose and meaning in the fight against enemies of Britain. To ordinary Britons these patriotic symbols represent the defence of our liberal democratic values of tolerance, fair-play and compassion – the very opposite to what Nick Griffin’s overseas extremists and nationalists admire.
Britain is a law abiding country, with a long history of strong, independent and liberal institutions such as Parliament and the Church. We have respect for the Armed Forces and proud of our great historical achievements, such as our role in ending the inhumane Slave Trade, exporting liberal democracy and free trade, and helping to stop genocide in Europe.
But Nick Griffin’s foreign fascist friends – like the BNP – are:
- 1. Violent - In July 2008 Budapest’s Gay Pride event was attacked by Jobbik supporters. 48 people were arrested and 10 were injured. The violence was reportedby BBC news. The BNP recently entered into a political alliance with Jobbik in the European Parliament.
- 2. Law breakers -In January 2007 Front National’s European Parliamentary leader Bruno Gollnisch MEP was convicted by a Lyon court for “disputing a crime against humanity”. He was handed a three-month suspended jail sentence, fined €5,000 and ordered to pay €55,000 in damages to the plaintiffs and to pay for the judgment to be published in the newspapers that originally printed his remarks. In April 2009 Simon Darby, deputy-chairman of the BNP, has paid tribute to Gollnisch by referring to him as a “longstanding Frenchman”.
- 3. Sectarians – In September 2007 Roberto Fiore’sForza Nuova (FN) were accused of delivering leaflets that incited religious hatred against Protestants in Rome. According to the Italian Waldensian movement, a Protestant sect, FN called for “Waldensians to the stake!” and FN supporters drew neo-Nazi symbols on the sides of one of their churches. Fiore has been a close and personal friend of Griffin for over thirty years.
- 4. Intolerant – In Sweden, the homophobic National Democrats’ (ND) manifesto states: “Perverted forms of the family should not get social recognition as acceptable alternatives to natural families.” ND regards homosexuals as “paedophiles” and “victims of incest”. In 2003, Marc Abrammson, ND leader, friend of Nick Griffin and regular attendee of Red, White and Blue festival, was sentenced to 18 months in prison for assault and rioting after he and a violent fascist mob attacked a Gay Pride festival in Stockholm. His sentence was then reduced to four months.
- 5. Conspiracy theorists – In October 2008 Roberto Fiore spoke at Jobbik’s Budapest rally to commemorate 1956, Fiore delivered an anti-Semitic rant against the banking system. He told the crowd: “This is the same capitalism that is pushing thousands and millions towards poverty. But it is lead and it is directed from the same people who put Christ on the cross!”
True patriots are unimpressed by Nick Griffin’sromance with foreign fascism and regard this list of bigotries as alien and, more important, very un-British.
Maurice Cousins
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For a moment there I thought you might want to talk about our EU masters or foreign business interests & donors wanting to interfere in or influence British politics?
Nothing very British about that.
On the one hand the BNP is isolationist but when it talks to anybody, it is consorting with fascists?
I hope Geert gets to show his film today!
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They say he’s on track for becoming Prime Minister in Holland !!
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You look at some of the Muslims this government or Red Ken consorted with, aren’t they “Foreign Fascists”?
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The mainstream press seem very muted about “Fitna” being shown at the House of Lords.
Didn’t Lord “Killer” Ahmed’s 10,000 Muslims turn up then?
I think he turned out to be full of hot air.
Ah well at least Russia Today covered it.
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The choice is between a bunch of internationalist cultural Marxists who are heavily influenced by rich zionists,(Lab Lib Con) or a party made up of British men and women who will put our country and people first,(BNP). VOTE BNP.
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Or rather it is a choice between liberal democratic values versus intolerance, sectarianism, division and conspiracy theories.
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What kind of Orwellian charge is “disputing a crime against humanity”? Don’t you believe in free speech? Surely a person can “dispute” anything they want?
And yes, the BNP does use images of Churchill, spitfires, WWII etc, and for a very good reason. British independence has been paid for in the blood of our ancestors and the public needs to be reminded at what cost they enjoy their current liberties and how unwise it is to let a traitorous government sell the country to foreign interests.
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Why do you call every patriot a facsist.Its getting very boring now.Have you something to worry about Maurice and Co.Areb you afraid this election the BNP will get massive support so much it will make this site redundant.I keep re-minding people i know Soldiers who are very very angry men.They de-test this goverment and Camerons ethnics and cuties gang.The thought they have to die for them makes them sick.Besides dont mess with the Army there is political un-rest in the ranks and they are heavily armed and they admire Nick Griffin.
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If you read the article I don’t call patriots fascists. This campaign has clearly distinguished between patriotism – which is noble and concerned with creating a cohesive and common identity – and nationalism – which is infatuated with difference and division.
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Maurice that really is utter rubbish..and you must know it.
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It just goes to show how afraid the so-called ‘mainstream’ parties must be of the BNP gaining even more votes in the general election that sites like this exist at all.
The British public ARE waking up and it makes no matter how many idiotic lies are spread by this site.
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Please point to our “lies”. We have used original source material.
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You don’t know anything first hand about the BNP because by your own admission they (wisely) will have no truck with you.
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Have you looked into THE BLACK FARMERS,STRANGE HE LIKES TO USE HIS COLOUR WHEN IT SUITS HIM.His military record,this bufffoon is standing in Chippenham Wiltshire for the torys,although he lives 100 miles away in Devon,anyhow we military men know if you get kicked out of the Army after 12 months,YOU HAVE DONE SOMETHING VERY VERY BAD.We are checking his records because we have spies too in very good places.When this crook is exposed.I will keep you informed.
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yes, it’s not good in Chipenham for the Tories. Out of the frying pan (previous Tory rep was the cheating James Gray) into the fire (Wilfred E-Jones, one of Dave “ghastly piece of filth” Cameron’s tick-in-the-box quota candidates).
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What this country needs is total equality. It should not matter if your gay straight,christain,muslim ,pagan etc. What should matter is that your free to practice your own faith, sexuality etc as long as it does not infringe on someone elses liberties. And we all should be completely equall in the eyes of the law and perhaps more importantly in the eyes of society. Also it should not get funding from the state. Its your lifestyle,religion etc you fund it. This should go for everyone no matter what Colour,religion,sexuality etc. Schools should go back to teaching cold hard facts and stop letting P.C into the classroom.If we keep on trying to re-write historical wrongs and ineqaulitys were just causing more wrongs and ineqaulitys. A true equal society will negate the need for the BNP and stifle any arguments they may have.
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Joe, gay, straight, Christian and pagan I can agree with (perhaps surprisingly the BNP would not recriminalise homosexuality, just the preaching of it to school children.)
Islam, however, is different. It is inherently inimical to our society as it calls on its followers to kill the unbelievers. Incitement to murder would be illegal in any other context. Islam should also be illegal. The only good musim is a bad muslim because a muslim either lives by the koran, in which case he is a good muslim but a bad person, or he ignores the koran in which case he is a good person but a bad muslim.
A BNP government would outlaw the preaching of Islam and rightly so. There would be a Dissolution of the Mosques the like of which hasn’t been seen for nearly 500 years.
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WE ARE HERE TO STAY FOREVER.
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Don’t wish for equality – Some animals are more equal than others – don’t you kinow what that means?
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Yes I would be happy with real equality with no exceptions but under this lot it will never happen.
By the time they realise their “equality” isn’t working & is causing more inequality it will be too late.
But maybe that is not their real agenda anyway?
So the mainstream cozy concensus has to be challenged by any means neccessary before it is too late & causes civil war.
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Everyone is free in this country with one notable exception – those who happen to be white, heterosexual and male (if you happen to be Christian that’s even worse). The ones who go out to work, pay taxes and keep the whole multicusexual show on the road..for the time being.
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How are white, heterosexual, Christian males less free than other Britons?
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Thats my point exactly. Total equality. You should not get preferential treatment because your a minority, and likewise a majority
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Thats my point exactly. You should get no preferential treatment because your a minority, neither should you if your a majority also.
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@ Kenny the original sources come from the either BNP websites, BNP allied websites, BNP foreign allied web sites, video postings made by BNP friends etc. Interesting you dispute this as being far-left.
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Most of your trash comes from the uaf, the mirror, searchlight and hope not hate. commies.
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Maurice i am a patriot,but there is something wrong in this great land of ours.For example when Cameron can bully the tory grassroots in to taking 44 ethnic candidates,is a sign of trouble,FOR EXAMPLE A IRAQI KURD WHO FLED SADDAM 7 YEARS AGO IS STANDING IN STRATFORD UPON AVON(strange i thought saddam was dead]HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DE-PORTED THE DAY AFTER SADDAM WAS EXECUTED ALONG WITH THE REST.THERE IS NOTHING BRITISH ABOUT HIM IS THERE.
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Yes ArmyBNP a perfect example of the discrimination against white,heterosexual,male Britons – Cameron purposely excluded them from his selection lists.
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Maurice and co if your so patriotic (LIKE HELL YOU ARE]Why dont you and those trecherous politicians go to wootton basset for the home comings of our fallen.Unlike the BNP who were there to welcome home these unfortunate men.WHY BECAUSE THE CROWD WOULD LYNCH THE LOT OF YOU.As for the BNP being there they were specialy invited by one of the fallen soldiers father.A TRUE PATRIOT.
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What idiotic comments from the BNP supporters. Is this the best they can do? Not one of them addresses the point of the article, and that is Griffin’s schmoozing with foreign fascists.
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Now we have commies schmoozing with capitalists.
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Knickers all bunched up Suzuki?
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Now Barbara, do you like the Conservatives slightly more or less than the BNP?
I guess while they do your dirty work you prefer the Conservatives.
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Did you see that the Queen has had a visit from JZ, Barbara?
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So the former head of the Eu is a hardned Red yet torys used to flirt with him.Barbara The BNP CAN FLIRT WITH WHO IT LIKES, I DONT SEE YOU CONDENMING UKIP FOR GETTING IN BED WITH THE ITALIAN NORTHERN LEAGUE.UNLIKE YOU WE ARE THE REAL BRITISH PATRIOTS.
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Peter come back we want to play with your head.
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Maurice,
“Please point to our “lies”. We have used original source material”.
LOL You wouldn’t be able to speak the truth even if you wanted to. Even Denise Garside of the UAF is claiming to be a “Right wing Tory” herself.
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I think when your saying ‘peter’ judging by a previous post your referring to me
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Joe did you agree with the things ‘peter’ said? you know there is only one race, the human race?
He also said the BNP were racist, how does that work in the mind of a lefty?
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On a totally seperate subject. We should start a campaign to get Mr Geert Wilders to move here and start a proper political party. The man has guts,courage, no dodgy past or present. You know the stuff I mean [holocaust denial.kkk mates,nazi members of staff etc etc etc]
I see the loony left are condemning him again —-idiots.
The man is what we used to call a tory,remember the days before PC Dave took over the reins.
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I’ll be voting for a proper political party, the BNP.
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Who is Peter. And what a typical BNP brainwashed answer.
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Here’s a man who has even seen Wilders film yet he wants to start a campaign to get him to start a political party in Britian, you are a fake!
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Which Nationalist party are you voting for?
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Sadly there isnt one
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And you are brainwashed my friend. You really think I was serious when I said to start a campaign to get Geert Wilders to move here. I was trying to prove the point that Mr Wilders is the kind of politician we need in Britain. No I have not seen his film,but I believe in freedom of speech and expression.
When Griffin and his cronies has spent all the members money and totally discredited the party maybe then it can move on.
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So you’re not going to vote then? Nationalist Joe.
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Joe you dont fool us for a minute mate,you are a divide and conqour guy.WE HAVE MET YOUR TYPE BEFORE IS DOES NOT WORK MATE.GIVE UP NOW.
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Required.
Yes I will vote for the best way to keep this communist labour party getting back in. Who I vote for ,no idea,yet.
I dont believe in been blindly loyal to a party, I will try to vote for the best of a bad lot. The BNP are taking labour votes,,ukip are taking tory [a lot more by my understanding]. If were not carefull were going to get these bloody idiots back in.
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The, ‘we used to be tories’ are as bad as liebour. hijacked by the far-left. Just look at this site, listen to ‘Dave call me Abdul Cameron’. Just a different shade of the same pile of tihs.
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Maurice your article says..
…”our role in ending the inhumane Slave Trade”
A quick search and I came up with this.
http://bnp.org.uk/2010/03/time-to-recognise-the-impact-of-islamic-slaving-on-britain/
Is this what you are commenting on?
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nick griffin with extremists..ok he will join the likes of red ken on his ira marches in the 80,s,john major having secret talks with the ira.trevor phillips with busts of lenin.liberal lords wanting to make peace with hitler etc etc…
and just too clear up someones comment about having a common identity..that use to be called race,the english,scotts,welsh,russians,japs..and so on.how can you have common identity when you have so many different races here,and more to the point why?
i bet the yanks are gutted when they come to london too see cockneys but instead see all these different races.
ask them or any other foreigner who doesnt want to conquer this country if mohammed was their idea of a native cockney.
peter and maurice,their is no such thing as multicultral paradise.there is just no point to it.
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i also meant to say that these people came here to be successful through work or crime.some scrounge just like our own people(race).but the point is most indians would be straight back to india if she offered them the same opportunities quicker than you could say jam samwhich.
my family would soon be following wanting the good times,and then setting up our churches and day centres and pubs.just wondering if that would be bad manners or if any indigenous indian complain that would make them racists,perhaps non tolerant of multiculturalism.
i suppose the point i am making is that immigrants come here for the good life,which my ancestors paid for in blood,,,not to lap up the english culture.
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I could point out that 5.5 million Brits live abroad for “a good life” and are not known to to “lap up” (good phrase) the local culture.
I could point out that immigrants suffer from a lot of denigrating myths, and that most are hard-working and law-abiding people.
But it is almost a hopeless task to argue against the BNP culture of injury, of grievance, and of such deep-seated envy of others.
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No, Barbara, in many cases they have gone to escape the PC culture of this country which positively discriminates in favour of immigrants. Many of my friends refer to themselves as exiles.
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http://wiganpatriot.blogspot.com/2010/03/geert-wilders-speech-to-house-of-lords.html
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Maurice
… law breaking, violent, sectarian and intolerant.
Are you describing your zionist mates in Israel. They are people who actually practice the above. BNP supporters are just disgruntled because your country is awash with foreigners, and your Tory party will not do one damn thing to change the situation.
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The cheek of the title: “There is Nothing British about foreign fascism”
So why do the Tories, Lib Dems and Labour all want to be ruled by the EU? Oh yeah, that’s tight, because there is nothing British about them.
You’re more deluded than Searchlight.
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*typo, should be right, not tight.
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The Tories have been known to hang about with some dodgy types…
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babara if you think i am envious of muslim culture or any other race …opps,human then you havent taken in a thing i have said.
i too hate it when you see british flags flying in spain and ex pats carrying on as if they were back in blighty.i am well against it and it is out of order on the spanish.this is my point…that large amounts of people moving about changes the demographics of countries and cultures.these cultures have been hard won by spilling blood.people bang on about tibet and china and the turn a blind eye to whats happening here.
a pub i use to drink in in coventry”the binley oak 1850″is now an islamic school for girls.i am not envious babara,just think that it is the thin end of the wedge.
and as for fascists,no doubt you will know that the fascist party in italy was made up of a huge amount of jews.
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Second Try!!!
Your article says
“..our role in ending the inhumane Slave Trade”
Does this refer to the Islamic slave trade as seen in the video
on youtube with the same tittle?
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Goodness me Pick! One is not supposed to mention the (majority) African position in the slave trade.
Without Africans (especially those of the Mohammedan persuasion) the trade would not have worked.
Nor should one mention that although Norway and Sweden abolshed slavery before the UK, the latter was the most active and influential in it’s abolishment.
Even the US Civil War is mis-represented in popular history (so often inaccurate and yet, in some cases enforced legally) as a war about slavery. There were still Northern slave states when that war started and Lincoln did not consider Africans his equal.
It was the UK, through the Royal Navy which played the main role in stopping slavery.
The hard-of-thinking (or lazy, or those with political agendas) still push this nonsense.
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“. Law breakers -In January 2007 Front National’s European Parliamentary leader Bruno Gollnisch MEP was convicted by a Lyon court for “disputing a crime against humanity”.”
So Maurice, please tell us all, is this the sort of law that you and your pals would like to see in the UK? I presume that it is becasuse:
a. You mention it in the first place
b. You practice the same censorship on this site.
So please, have the courage and honesty of your convictions and tell us. Do you believe that people should be prosecuted for disputing official stories?
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The powers that be want to control our opinions and then, when they have the technology, they will control our thoughts.
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“Dear me , Joe : your terrible spelling and grammar show once again how necessary is the BNP policy of support for grammar schools.
Inter alia , “favorite” is American – nothing Brtish about that.
Go on Joe – have a free hit and tell me there’s nothing British about Latin phrases…”
“Darn – missed the “I” in British , gotta dig that bit of stuck bacon outta me keyboard”
1. Let those without sin cast the first stone.
2. Mentioning bacon might get your posts deleted.
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Now Maurice,
Once again I ask you to reply (it could get a bit boring but I shall persist – even if you delete this and previous posts, as is your wont):
Do you believe that people should be prosecuted for disputing official stories?
I shall add a rider:
Is there a religious/racial/ethnic reason for your tardiness in replying? That wouls (in my humble opinion) be un-British!
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from what is taught in schools about the slave trade.kids must think that every white man and women owned a slave,but that fits in nicely with multicult social engineering.yes lets not mention that slavery was around especially in west Africa before Britain was ever a union,even before the birth of england when we were still Dane law etc etc..it is part of African culture that the slave trade existed when the British empire turned up and exploited it.don’t forget that one tribe in particular done very nicely out of it.i believe they were called the Ashanti.also the us is in denial about the slave trade as it was the British who promised the slaves that if they fought with them they would give them freedom,so much so that the us is finding it hard to come to terms with archive evidence suggesting this.slave names such as British freedom and so on.
the slave trade is always used to hit whitey over the head for the failings of modern black communities,and some how of course the bnp are in the middle of it!
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There is nothing democratic about cultural Marxism Maurice.
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Democratic values when the EU wants to ban all opposition parties like the BNP.Maurice if your a Tory im a monkeys uncle.
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What conspiracy theories Maurice? Give a few examples.
I’ve looked all over the BNP website and haven’t found one.
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Mr Cousins,
You continually, perpetually, extensively use this word “Fascist” in this blog of yours. Are you a political scientist?
I have repeatedly asked you jokers here, to tell us which scholarly definition of Fascism you are using when you refer to these parties as Fascist. And yet you never answer, why is that?
From what I can tell for a party to classify as a Fascist in your eyes, it must just simply combine being European and Nationalist. Is this a fair description?
But that’s just not good enough, and it is certainly not accurate.
Words do not have meanings that you arbitrarily decide to give them. Much though you may think that this is the case. And it is the most unbelievable insult to the real victims of real Fascism for you to continually pretend otherwise.
I continue awaiting your answer about which classification of Fascism you are employing, and how you justify its use when describing the parties of the European radical right.
But I shan’t hold my breath!
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Yet again, a comment by me languishes in moderation until the discussion moves on…
Now I’m not saying “conspiracy”… lol
Those interested in what classic Nothing British censorship is trying to hide can see the comment by clicking on the screenname “Nice Try” above.
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The lies start at the origional source.
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But it does not make the source true. You copy from far left websites.
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Maurice your lies come from that ghastly British hating organization called Seachlight.THERES NOTHING BRITISH ABOUT THEM I ASSURE YOU.
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The tory party has been hijacked by the far-left.
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Maurice, you’re confused again! Nationalism is about preservation of identity, unity of a nation’s people bound by a common culture and values. Patriotism is indeed about “a cohesive and common identity”, but you and your Tory friends are seeking to destroy that identity through mass importation of cheap labour and surrender of national sovereignty to the EU
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But the whole establishment that you are part of, believe in globalism & being controlled by a foreign power (the EU), the selling off our national assets to foreign hands & the allowing of multi-culturalism proves there is no patriotism because importance & power is given to everything foreign.
You are part of a lobby who have allegience to another country not this one.
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The fact that Geert Wilders can not have the luxury of free speech is a sad inditment of this country. That is not to say I agree with him, I have not seen his film. Wilders, alongside Rushdie should be held up as to what can happen when you pander to religous fascists. Ive traveled in the middle east and there are different extremes of Islam,some good some bad. This country is afraid to differentiate between them. We have nutters like Choudry and then we have good people like Ed Hussain. remember the carry on when monty python made the ‘life of Brian’… No death threats though or bombings. Britain should have nothing to do with radical religous zealots. They should be shown the door. A crime is still a crime no matter whos god you think your doing it for.
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Joe Public the person & Joe Public the people should go on “YouTube” & watch “Fitna”, make your own mind up.
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We are not a Middle Eastern country. We should not be in a posiiton where we are forced to have this discussion.
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Why do you think it is rubbish?
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Because you must know that the original meaning of patriotism (from the greek patris) means devotion to one’s country. You are just playing semantics in a very silly way.
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Jim this idiot refused to de-bate with the BNP because WAIT FOR IT HE DIDT WANT RACE TO BECOME A ISSUE.
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Yes, Tories find it very difficut to defend the indefensible so will always avoid debate with the BNP, preferring to hide beind their vacuous slogans (“waycists, fascists” etc). Cameron is determined to continue the work of his hero, Bliar, and destroy our nation’s identity and independence
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And don’t forget the zionist sockpuppet Edmund Standing.
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Hello Peter.
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Ask Harman, she’s one of you.
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Sorry Required cant find the comment your refering to.
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Perhaps it will be some day when the ‘Griffin fan club has left the building and took all there baggage with them’ then we may be able to get a proper nationlist party coming through. And I know regular BNP commentors will trash this statement. Think about it the BNP has several major draw backs , several things the press pick up on.And they all stem from the inner sanctum. Its time to face the facts Griffin has said some stupid things. He is a liability and so are his cronies. But hey if you would rather stick with a man who will never get any respect in the political establishmnet so be it. I tend to hope though that proper patriots will care more for there country than sticking up for a man because of his ‘victim status
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‘peter’ was obsessed with Nick Griffin aswell.
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that should be hasn’t seen….
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So you’re not going to vote then?
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Divide and conquer ,please have an original thought not spout Heir Griffin retoric
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Yes Barbara, and those Brits PAY THEIR WAY.
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I read a really interesting article which suggested that when Orwell wrote about some animals being “more equal” than others what he actually meant (rather than that the pigs had elevated themselves above the other animals) was this : The likes of Harperson wants all of us plebs to be EQUAL to one another, very,very equal indeed – all the same.
Whereas the ELITE like Harperson etc aren’t equal because they are the elite and therefore in fact,privileged. So there is a ghastly cesspit of equal sameness for all of us with the liberal elite luxuriating in their power and riches.
It’s happening!
Hot debate. What do you think?
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The Judaic role in the black slave trade. Dr Tony Martin.
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