There is Nothing British about isolationism

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The Battle of Trafalgar

One of the many contradictions in the BNP’s ideas is their views on foreign policy.

On the one hand, the BNP are keen to take advantage of Britain’s proud history. Their annual fundraising dinner every year is entitled the “Trafalgar Club”, and Nothing British has of course frequently referenced their use of World War II imagery. One of their surrogate websites British Pride asks its readers to choose who was the greatest British commander out a list including Montgomery, Nelson or Alfred the Great. Articles sing the praises of Britain’s heroes, and claim that we should “never be embarrassed of the Empire or ashamed of it.”

But on the other hand, the BNP’s policy is to withdraw from the world, to institute a new age of isolationism. They would withdraw from all international institutions, leave the European Union, NATO and the WTO, end foreign aid and retreat to a new era where Britain focussed on its own interest.

Imagine if Britain had followed the BNP’s policy throughout our history. Wilberforce would have decided that, no actually, the slave trade is none of our business, while Pitt let Napoleon trounce through Europe. Germany could do whatever it liked with Belgium or Poland, while Churchill stuck to his painting. The Falklands and Gibraltar? Let them look after themselves.

There are many strategic challenges in the upcoming century. The rise of China and India. Terror, and Islamic extremism. The global debates over climate change and energy shortages. The moral urgency to help the poorest billion in our wold.

Does Britain have something to offer in confronting these problems?

Or are we too weak, too small, too unimportant as the BNP would have you believe. Compared to the big boys of America and China, what can we do?

It is difficult to see the BNP’s supposed heroes such as Churchill or Marlborough agreeing with such defeatism. It is difficult to see how the world of Britain or the world would have been a better place if we’d turned a blind eye to the Nazis or Napoleon.

If you’re proud of your country, you don’t try to hide away and hope the global problems will pass without your involvement. You think the world would be a better place if Britain had more say in it, not less.

There are countries such as Switzerland that have a long history of remaining neutral and keeping out of world affairs. Britain is not one of them – instead, we have sought to lead the world, and for the most part, the world is better because of it.

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215 Responses to “There is Nothing British about isolationism”

  1. reguired says:

    Yeah, the zionist bankers have killed millions of Brits fighting in the wars they wanted and funded,(Benjamin H Freedman’s speech 1961), as for the EU, their position is a vote winner, unlike Camerons lies, same goes for the MMGW scam.

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    • maurice says:

      You are always asking for an example of a conspiracy theory, well you’ve just provided us with one. You should stop reading the Protocols.

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  2. WTF says:

    I think less interference in world affairs would be a good thing as it doesn’t seem to be working out well, all the wasted money & lives which could have been used to strengthen this country.

    But of course if you allow your country to be dictated to by outside interests & global business, this is what happens.
    Obviously the Conservatives will continue straight down the same route.

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    • acorn says:

      So Maurice, do you agree with our invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan? If so, why? What did we gain? Did we gain security? Far from it, we just stirred up the extremist Islamists within and outwith our borders. What was it for?
      If you believe it was to deal with terrorist training camps, why did we not invade Sudan. Indeed why did we not invade the training camps aiding the Irish terrorists?
      Is this another of my posts to be erased like the others which did not break forum rules?

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  3. WTF says:

    I am not advocating abandoning the Falklands or Gibraltar though.
    It would also help also if we didn’t offer shelter to so many Islamic extremists & others who hate the concept of Britain.

    I think being more like Switzerland is a good idea, we are not an Empire & I think the American days of empire are coming to a close as well.
    China looks set to repeat everybody elses mistakes as a superpower.

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  4. wotan says:

    Japan is and has stayed in isolation. Not only has it been an agressor but imperialist and an expansionist (like Britain) and it seems to have done OK for it’s self. Explain that one

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    • freeroller says:

      Japan appears to be doing ok from the images we see through media eyes. Really they are an opressed nation, something i would not like to live like.

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  6. Switzerland wasn’t so neutral when it came to letting German planes fly over its territory pursuing British ones, or letting the trains carry Jews from Italy to the concentration camps. Let the BNP wander about in their parallel universe – I’ll have british history as it is.

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    • reguired says:

      Switzerland shot down 11 luftwaffe planes between 10/5/1940 and 17/6/1940, so they got some things right.

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  7. ARMYBNP says:

    Norway seems to do well out of it.ALSO NB STOP USING FIGHTING PICTURES WE THE REAL BRITISH OWN THOSE RIGHTS,NOT USELESS NUMPYS LIKE NB.OR PATRIOTIC BRITS LIKE BARONESS (british when it suits her )WARSI.

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  8. Nicholas says:

    I am way too tired to argue today.
    It’s Hard Work 1 – Outstanding Intellect and Sparkling Humour 0.
    I wish you all – the site owners , the lefties , the righties , the wrongies –
    a very happy weekend.

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  9. We do not have a British state as a political expression of the three peoples of the British Isles (I exclude from this category, in every sense of the word, foreign populations currently living here). We have a British state as the expression of a political class beholden unto its self and loyal to its riches, its power, and continuity – for which it depends for political direction upon the global elites and for funding on finance capitalism.

    So, really, when it comes to foreign policy the choice is quite simple. It is between a true democracy and power elitism. The people who run this blog are for power elitism. But there is very blatently nothing – nothing at all – British about global elitism and finance capitalism. They amount to a preference for treachery.

    I think the Nothing British people should come forward and explain this preference. Let’s have some intellectual honesty from you, please, instead of the very low-grade knocking copy you are putting out at present.

    Here’s the question you must answer: For what purpose is the voice of the three native peoples of this country excluded in the areas of race-replacement immigration, the relinquishment of national sovereignty and the waging of foreign wars for American hegemony, oil and the security of Israel?

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  10. MLJ says:

    Whose “surrogate website” is NB??

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  11. MLJ says:

    Back to censorship by disappearing post are we Maurice?

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    • WTF says:

      I guess this is the (Nothing) British version of the Bermuda triangle?

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  12. MLJ says:

    As I was saying…Any incoming government would have an awful lot of weak kneed,surrender-wimp damage to undo before we could become a true world power again.
    The navy stood by and did nothing when two British people were kidnapped by Somali pirates.
    Come to think of it, Wilberforce (whose name you make so free with) too put the ‘uman rights of some above those of others.
    In the 18th century the working classes of this country were treated in an appalling way.
    For the most trifling of crimes (usually related to survival) they were hanged,sometimes drawn and quartered,pressed to death by weights,branded with hot irons on the hand and face,manacled,sent to work as slaves on plantations and transported. The children of the poor were often sold into slavery in factories in this country.
    Do-gooding Wilberforce didn’t start there though did he? He probably thought that the English weren’t worth saving.

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  13. MLJ says:

    We are, and I forgot to copy it again!

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  14. MLJ says:

    No outcry about BNP leaders attending the parade in Wootton Bassett this time is there? No, because the son of BNP two members is being brought back in a coffin. And no mention of that either.
    He wasn’t an isolationist was he Maurice?

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      cue proffessional mourners…wait till the tv camera pans along the line….tears cmon gives us tears and flowers ..more tears more tears….cue fainting lady..AND………cut! ..thats a rap folks!

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  15. MLJ says:

    Awaiting moderation..ho..hum.
    That should read “the son of two BNP members”
    Could you correct it for me Maurice when you do you “moderating”?

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    • MLJ says:

      I wouldn’t start that one if I were you Peter because you certainly won’t be able to finish it. I’ll raise you Baroness Uddin £100,000….

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  16. wotan says:

    Maurice and Co, since my last post was deleted and so was not answered, I’ll ask it a again. Did A lister C ooling help you set up this site? Also was he a tory with you lot? And last but most important. Did he get jailed in 2009 for 6 months for downloading and possesion of child p ornography

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    • jonathan.dupont says:

      Wotan, you have been answered on this many, many times – but for the last time, no.

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  17. MLJ says:

    The govt has decided that teachers should be allowed to be members of the BNP (40 years ago no one would ever have believed we’d even have that debate in Britain) which is a good thing. Dave, however, has come out against the decision in another bizarre outburst like the one at the welsh conference. So who’s pulling his strings Eh? And they say that NB isn’t Tory party funded. Pull the other one do!

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  18. Sam Pauli says:

    most of my teachers were fascists anyway…Bstrds

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    • MLJ says:

      Well they did have you to teach Sam. Not an enviable task I imagine.

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    • MLJ says:

      Yippee! The High Court has legitimised the BNP.The membership list has re-opened. Anyone can join now, so no one can ever be targeted again for being a member.

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    • Peter says:

      The BNP Pravda website is still not reporting the court judgement about their discriminatory constitution. Pravda claims that they will post news as soon as they get it. Maybe not!

      I couldn’t find any reference to the BNP’s latest humiliations at the polls either. For those BNPers who rely on Chairman Griffin for information you lost two council by-elections last night; losing half your vote in one and coming last in the other.

      It’s hardly surprising that Griffin and Darby have both “bottled” debates with people from respectable parties this week. It must be much more comfortable in splendid isolation down in the “bunker” with their credulous followers.

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  19. Simon says:

    Election result

    Redwell West,Wellingborough

    Con 570
    Lab 186
    David Peter ROBINSON (British National Party) 84
    Lib Dem 72
    Eng Dem 62
    Green 23

    2008 Result
    Con 665
    BNP 177
    Lab 169
    Lib Dem 40
    UKIP 39
    Green 37
    ———

    Adeyfield, Hemel Hempsted

    CON 486
    Lab 429
    Lib 362
    BNP 203 (last place)

    The whole worlds voting for them!

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    • MLJ says:

      Whatever you say, Simon/Peter 1 out of every 10 people is voting for the BNP. Up and coming and very worrying for Lib/Lab/Con. Do you honestly think they’d bother with this website if they weren’t all terrified. Well they should be!

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  20. ARMYBNP says:

    GREAT NEWS THOUSANDS OF NEW BNP MEMBERS.POURING IN AND WASNT NICK BRILLIANT ON T.V TODAY.SHOOTING THE PRESENTERS DOWN,GOD WE ARE ON A HIGH HIGH,BET COUSINS AND CO ARE CRYING THEIR LITTLE EYES OUT.

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  21. Hepworth says:

    Back to the subject. Norway, Switzerland.
    Whitch are the two most afluent countries in Europe??
    Point made I think.

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  22. Sam Pauli says:

    A-con need i remind you iam NOT a tory or ever have been get yer facts right…ooops thats right why let the truth spoil a good racists argument……ps theres a big party coming very soon when margaret departs this mortal coil

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    • MLJ says:

      Why are you giving them support then? Why can’t you see what harm they’re doing to the country? Why can’t you see that we are at a point of no return? If we don’t fight now we will lose our freedoms for a long,long time.Think about that before you start ranting. You won’t be able to rant under The New World Order. Probably won’t be Sam Pauli…just a number 666.

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      MLJ im not giving “them” support,i just dont like the fascist,racist politics of the bnp simples why cant the klan accept criticism ,i just dont get it at all.

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    • reguired says:

      The difference is Sam when you depart this mortal coil the only people who will be thereto see you off will be your smiling wife and her ‘new’ man, oh and mararet will have a head stone.

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    • MLJ says:

      First they came for the Communists
      And I did not speak out

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  23. MLJ says:

    First They Came – Pastor Martin Niemoller

    They won’t let me post this poem – too much of a ring of truth about it no doubt. Read it, if you can, Sam and Simon.

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    • Simon says:

      Do you mean the poem that Martin Niemoller wrote about Nazism? Yes I know it

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    • MLJ says:

      It is about supporting a regime which seeks to destroy all opposition to itself. The point is reached where the support wavers because the regime becomes more and more radical. The supporter didn’t realise that the regime would go so far and can no longer give the regime support. Then it is too late.
      They came for the BNP and people like you bayed in support. Then they came for UKIP and people like you sniggered. Then they came for the Green and you gulped a little. Then they banged on your door at 3am because you had not used the correct nu-speak word at work that morning…..

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  24. Sam Pauli says:

    it wouldnt be racist propaganda would it?

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    • MLJ says:

      Obviously,Sam my fears were not unfounded. You can’t read with any comprehension.

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  25. Sam Pauli says:

    First they came for the communists,First they came for Pastor Martin? they came for them both first?more double standards methinks

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  26. Peter says:

    @BNP Supporters,

    How are you spinning Nick Griffin’s unconditional surrender after losing his court case yesterday? On losing he surrendered all his supposed political principles in an instant – so he could get Dowson’s call centre going again.

    Costs were awarded against you – so your leader just wasted about £60,000 in a case which he was always going to lose (more amateur legal advice from Lee Barnes?). You’ll need 2000 new members just to pay for the money wasted in the court case! Maybe more seeing as nobody knows what percentage Dowson is on for recruiting new members / donations.

    At your next meeting try asking a BNP official for open and accurate information about what is happening to your money. You’ll soon get kicked out!

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    • MLJ says:

      No publicity is bad publicity. The controlled press isn’t telling the whole story – look on the BNP website and read what actually happened.
      The main point is that seeing as anyone can join now there can never again be any imagined stigma attached to membership.

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    • MLJ says:

      If you really can’t se the inherent dangers in an unelected body like EHRC being able to interfere in politics then you are obviously what I suspected. A plant, a poster in the pay of NB.

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  27. ARMYBNP says:

    Lets all have a party.Strange the bbc and sky took nicks interview off ,because he was telling the truth.So come on cameron and warsi offer nick a live debate one to one,or do you feel safety in numbers.

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      do we want a fat sweaty pig clogging up our tv screens..and griffins just as bad

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  28. ARMYBNP says:

    ANOTHER MATE OF MINE HAS JUST JOINED ,SO MUCH FOR THE LYING MEDIA SAYING ITS STILL CLOSED,THANK GOD FOR THE INTERNET.

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  29. freeroller says:

    If the BNP are ever to get into power we can wave goodbye to Britain. It will be f*****.

    If people are really worried about keeping Britain British, would it not be best to support a party more right of centre rather than far right. seriously if the BNP got into power we would have serious problems.

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    • reguired says:

      We have serious problems and they will get worse under the 3 in 1 Lab Lib Con pro EU immigration party. Vote BNP.

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    • WTF says:

      Geez Freeroller, wake up & smell the coffee or at least the other substance that the mainstream dole out in ever bigger quantities!

      We are waving goodbye to Britain, at this rate there will be nothing recognisable left, it will look like any other EU mess with many languages & cultures all fighting to be heard over the others.

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  30. MLJ says:

    We already are!!Wake up!
    Which party is right of centre pray?

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    • Simon says:

      I thought you were going to explain the Niemoller poem to me?

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  31. Sylo says:

    I’ve said it before I’ll say it again..the BNP is a joke, their policies are a joke, their leader as we can see is a joke, their followers are a joke and the people that brought the BNP supporters into the world are also a JOKE..!!

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    • reguired says:

      Are you talking about peoples mothers again, you have problems little boy, tell us what happened between you and your mother.

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  32. Sylo says:

    PS: The BNP are a SH*T stain the Union Jack

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    • reguired says:

      Sick little boy get some help, stop fantasizing over old women, try and find your mother.

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    • ARMYBNP says:

      Sylo if i ever met and found out,who you are for that comment.I would turn your head round,so when your walking north you would be looking south.You scum.

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  33. Sylo says:

    Someone has let required out of his… Required if you want to look at granny p*rn then your on the wrong site mate…

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    • reguired says:

      Listen little boy, its you who has the problems with mothers and old women not me, just look back at the earlier posts, just get some help.

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  34. Sylo says:

    Anyway as was saying about the BNP being a sh*t stain on the Union Jack. Infact did you see Hitler Griffin last night.. scared like a little child. God bless the English Legal System for standing up against sc*m of the earth like required and all his little BNP A** Rap**S

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  35. Sylo says:

    for all BNP low lifes on here have you seen your site recently hahaha you call yesterday a victory god sake listen get to B&Q get some rope and do us all a favour and hang yourself

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  36. Sylo says:

    Sam do you know who they are??? there the BNP you don’t wanna mess with them…

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      ohhh id love to mess with them unfortunatley they dont hang about long in Glasgow..the NF at least would stand their ground,but the bnp are far more athletic than the NF

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    • reguired says:

      Do you know what criminal profiling is?

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  37. Simon says:

    *crosspost*

    Which is what I said? Did you not listen?

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    • MLJ says:

      You’re the one who doesn’t listen and doesn’t understand poetry.

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  38. MLJ says:

    I see what Maurice/Simon is doing. He’s moderating out all serious debate yet letting Sam et al post loads of rubbish. Others have noticed and complained and left which is no doubt what they want – having failed in their avowed aim of destroying the BNP

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  39. ARMYBNP says:

    I see another invader scum,has got off with thieving the taxpayer,Baroness urdin soon to be mrs.WE are looking at you all.SO COME ON NB WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT THESE THIEVING RATS.

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      talking of moderating…how does this maniac get away with it…please tell me they dont give him firearms!!!

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  40. ARMYBNP says:

    Another four potential PPCS.Have came forward today.Thats four more places were the enemy have to divert their forces.To combat us costing them huge amouts of money.NB YOU AINT SEEN NOTHING YET.

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  41. reguired says:

    I’ve found you sylo, little short boy ain’t ya.dark

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    • Sam Pauli says:

      Are you stalking children on the internet?i think it maybe your door you ll have to watch!!

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  42. MLJ says:

    A lot of them are unelected, shoved into the House of Lords by whatever means. They are greedy,shameless and seemingly, above the law.

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  44. MLJ says:

    Maurice why has Simon’s post containing the word psephology disappeared from the site? Your “moderating” is getting beyond a joke.

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  45. Sylo says:

    I’ve found you required, aint you that little bnp a*s boy, who likes to s*ck some bnp c*ck you little f*g.. Are you trying to threat me Required…? If so there hollow just like the BNP you pathet*c excuse for a human being… You are a sc*mbag a mistake from your parent’s. i got news for you they forgot to wear a co*dom…!! Ooops the truth out guys Required is a mistake…

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  46. Sylo says:

    Required you have nothing on me… Oh and trying to make yourself look like a big man is failing.. If you want to make a threat how about this.. The next time your drinking in the pub or buying a kebab watch your back becuase I’ll kidnap you quicker then you know who and I’ll burn you alive starting the fire at your socks you kiddie fidler.. Thats right people Required is a Pedo check the ‘Child Register List’

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    • reguired says:

      Sylvester you are about 4′2″, you couldn’t lift my right arm, so little gangsta best get your “crew” together, you’ll need a van and a driver, ie someone older than you, see you later.

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  47. Sylo says:

    Oh and Required to you and all your f*ck*ng BNP clowns F*CK YOU, I got news for you A*s Holes if ever Nick HITLER Griffin ever make’s to Parliment there going to f*ck him like they did with your other super hero George Lincoln A*s Rockwell…

    With that said F*ck Y*u All…

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  48. MLJ says:

    Maurice I fail to see why you moderate perfectly reasonable posts out of existence and yet allow the above to remain. What’s your game?

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    • reguired says:

      He’s helping to expose the violent, sick left. His friends.

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  49. marty says:

    She will never be a proper baroness as long as i have a hole in my anorak.

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  50. marty says:

    Most people look on her as another foreign import we dont need.

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  51. Sam Pauli says:

    reguired are you physcing yourself up before you head over to Govan today?Maybe hand out a few leaflets,im sure you ll find plenty likewise friends out there

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  52. reguired says:

    Are you saying Benjamin Freedman is a liar?

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  53. reguired says:

    Didn’t Judea declare war on Germany in 1933?

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  54. reguired says:

    Give us an example of a BNP conspiracy theory, i can give you examples of conspiracy theories like ‘in plane site director’s cut’ or ‘missing links 911′ and a thousand more about the moon and ufo’s but i can’t find one BNP conspiracy theory.
    The Protocols were said to be a forgery.

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  55. WTF says:

    So MMGW was in the Protocols?
    Wow I didn’t know that!

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  56. reguired says:

    Protocol 16 fits.

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  57. wotan says:

    What a one word answer. No. We know that to be lies. He was instramental in helping you with this site but was quitley dropped when he got caught in his other website activities

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  58. MLJ says:

    But isn’t NB is run by the Conservative Home Site ?

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  59. MLJ says:

    I thought that Alister wrote for the Conservative Home Site? So is the “No” a bit of a”Yes” really?

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  60. wotan says:

    Anything else you want to add then Mr Dupont?

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  61. MLJ says:

    How unpleasantly disrespectful of you Sam. I expect Maurice will reprimand you in a moment….not.

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  62. Sam Pauli says:

    you the bnp like to state the facts…but no one else can?democracy bnp style i suppose!!!!

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  63. Sam Pauli says:

    even the most “patriotic” can see its just a media circus MLJ ,even the blind can see it………

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  64. Sam Pauli says:

    I never mentioned w.o.t.a.n. OR reguired,keep blaming the lefties the good ould bnp get out clause!

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  65. MLJ says:

    Blaming the lefties? What do you mean Sam?

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  66. Sam Pauli says:

    oops i should have said zionist sockpuppets.commies or practically anyone who DOSENT vote bnp….almost the entire british population,except for a few “patriots”…..they just all seem to have found this site together!!!

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  67. Sam Pauli says:

    Tsk Tsk MLJ how very unrespectful

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  68. MLJ says:

    No – just stating a fact.

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  69. wotan says:

    I’ll call your “Baroness” Udin and raise you a “lord” Hanningfield

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  70. wotan says:

    You can imagine the faces on Maurice and Co. Then again I don’t really think there bothered. I think this whole site is just to bolster the “non-racist” image of the bory party and to try and make a name for Maurice and Co.

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  71. MLJ says:

    When I looked at the website (after the judgement) they had put up a big “join now” banner. They’ve taken that down now and according to the controlled media there is a ban on new membership.

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  72. MLJ says:

    Just found this comment on an article in The Times
    “You have not finished with the full report of this case.
    Nick Griffin, having been given a mandate by his members, has omitted the clauses that the judge found unacceptable, so the constitution is now agreed in law.
    Membership is open to all.”

    So what has happened??

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  73. MLJ says:

    It’s back up!!!Memberships is open!! Nick Griffin is a genius.

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  74. wotan says:

    Just watched a BBC interview he’s just done where NG says that membership was still closed until certain issues were changed which they have been. NG goes onto say that Membership IS open. So is now open for business aparently

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  75. MLJ says:

    Very apt really, casting the first stone (or pebble) and all that. I have faith that the BNP will eventually save this country from the hell it has been cast down into. If you have ever studied history you will know that what goes around comes around and no doubt eventually the extreme left politics which have caused so much destruction and dismay will eventually be defeated.

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  76. Simon says:

    Good question, why can’t the BNP accept criticism? I wonder if anyone can answer that without replying with a question?

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  77. MLJ says:

    Try criticising Gordon or Dave. No one likes criticism especially if the criticism is about beliefs.Now, however, we have got to a point where it is possible to outlaw beliefs and eventually (it’s almost happening in the EU) thoughts. I guess that you and Sam are professional posters but rest assured that what is going to happen will affect you both and Maurice and his mates. You will all have many years of controlled silence to reflect on what will have led to it.

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  78. reguired says:

    Nobody accepts criticism based on lies, you gay “Christians” don’t accept criticism based on the truth.

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  79. Sam Pauli says:

    thatll be two more than “turns oot” for yours then surely?

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  80. MLJ says:

    Did you call me a gay Christian Required? I’d have thought you’d read enough of my posts to know that’s not the case!!

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  81. Sam Pauli says:

    who did,the bnp?lol aye sure they did…….

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  82. MLJ says:

    In standing up for a government which is prepared to try to destroy a perfectly legal political party you are paving the way for a totalitarian state the like of which could only appear in even your nightmares.

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  83. Sam Pauli says:

    Whos destroying who? i see no evidence of the govt,trying to destroy the bnp…..it must be NG s hypnotic powers working on these people

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  84. MLJ says:

    Do you live in a news-free bubble then Sam. Or can’t you read?

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  85. MLJ says:

    Well do you understand it? Explain it to me if you can.

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  86. Simon says:

    Well MLJ I finf your arrogance a bit of a turn on to be honest so here goes. It seems to be a poem written by a German citizen (Martin Niemoller) protesting about his countries inability to stand up ther Nazi party and their dreeping influence

    It is written in five stanzas each with a opening statement folowing a cyclic pattern but not a iambic pentameter or dactyls which are the common traits of poetry. So it is a more of a serious of statements than a poem, but non the less a powerful piece of anti Nazi art and a valuable lesson form the past.

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  87. MLJ says:

    Yes, yes I “did” poetry too – mostly French and Latin but quite a bit of Shakespeare,Donne and Marlow as well – but that is by the by.
    Do you understand the message of the poem? I don’t believe you do.
    Glad to have given you a frisson Maureece, oh sorry, Peter.

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  88. Simon says:

    Yes I do, Niemoller himself said that the poem was aimed at Nazism’s effect on Germany. You could translate it in to any evil totalatarian regime I expect.

    But why don’t you sit me on your knee and tell me what the TRUE meaning of Martin Niemollers poem is as apparently I have no concept.

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  89. Sam Pauli says:

    MFI

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  90. MLJ says:

    You are so dim.

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  91. MLJ says:

    You are extremely dim. You don’t understand the poem.

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  92. Peter says:

    “A plant, a poster in the pay of NB”, … conspiracies, conspiracies!

    The EHRC hasn’t interfered in politics – it referred the discriminatory practices of the BNP to the courts. The courts, not the EHRC decided that the BNP’s constitution was illegal.

    The only reason it went to court is that Griffin thought he could avoid the law of the land. If he had complied with British law he wouldn’t have had to be told. The EHRC gave Griffin that chance – but Mr. Lardy fancied a bit of empty posturing at his members’ expense. That is why costs were awarded against him – he was doing little more than wasting the court’s time.

    One of the many big problems faced by the BNP is that they simply do not understand the complexities of the country they live in. They don’t understand how councils work, how the law works, how the country has changed etc. etc. BNP supporters seem to genuinely believe they are doing well but you are simply marching down a blind alley of collective stupidity.

    Even if you managed to win another council seat one day in the future – looking very unlikely, I know – your candidate wouldn’t know what to do and would join the long list of BNPers who were correctly described by Nick Clegg as “utterly, utterly useless”.

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  93. Simon says:

    The paucity of your imagination is jaw dropping, do you really think that there is only one poster posting against the BNP on this site?

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  94. MLJ says:

    i didn’t say that. Try reading the posts properly.

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  95. reguired says:

    Where do you live? Not in the UK.

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  96. reguired says:

    Still fantasizing over old women you sad sick child?
    Does your mum know you’re on her pc?

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  97. Sylo says:

    Do you know where your mum even is Required..??

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  98. reguired says:

    Listen little boy, its you who has the problems with mothers and old women not me, just look back at the earlier posts, just get some help, sicko.

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  99. acorn says:

    Sylo,
    the word you meant was “loser”. Since you are unable to spell it perhaps it should apply to you.

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  100. wotan says:

    It’s OK i’ve found her down the back of weatherspoons s+cking of old men to feed her crack habit. Slyo, she say to tell you you p+ss off as your not getting another as you’ve didn’t pay the going £2 the last time and you’ve got a face like Stephen Hawkins

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  101. Sylo says:

    wotan if you all don’t know is a true skin head Nazi tramp.. just like your mum

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  102. Sylo says:

    or was it your dad you all look the same to me besides required mum

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  103. reguired says:

    Back to my 70 year old mother, didn’t take long little boy

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  104. Sylo says:

    oh dear required you really are desperate have been going around all my posts to get the last word.. hmmmm one word springs to mind ‘childish’ do you want a dummy as well required..?

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  105. wotan says:

    last word

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  106. Sylo says:

    required your mum says hi

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  107. Sylo says:

    Listen A*s hole isn’t time for your medication..? run along to daddy

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  108. reguired says:

    or was it your mother

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  109. Sylo says:

    required you are really sad everyone can see from your posts that you have nothing to say your chatting bollo*ks why dont you go to your BNP site and give some one a hug!!

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  110. reguired says:

    Is that what you are missing little boy.

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  111. Sylo says:

    Oh look and another one..!!!

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  112. reguired says:

    I think you’ve said enough to underline what we all know, get some help.

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  113. Sylo says:

    Hmmmmm lets you vote BNP do I need the help or do you..? I think you do..? and 99% of the british people would think so. Ironic that you the BNP are the
    minorities

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  114. reguired says:

    Wait for the knock on your door, NB will get great publicity as well.People have tried to reason with you.

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  115. Sam Pauli says:

    that sounds like a disguised threat to me!

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  116. Sylo says:

    Ha you above all the sc*m of the universe

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  117. Sylo says:

    Sam they are the BNP you don’t want to mess with them..!!

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  118. Hepworth says:

    Sylo says, “Why don’t you go to your BNP site”.
    This site belongs to us as well lad. We own it. Read the comments.

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  119. Simon says:

    “Wait for the knock on your door, NB will get great publicity as well.People have tried to reason with you”.

    Is this how the BNP operates?

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  120. reguired says:

    Its nothing to do with the BNP, the boy is a danger to women,old women.

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  121. Sylo says:

    ewww required please dont state what your fettish’s are, your like all bnp tramps not been brought up properly

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  122. reguired says:

    Look at your earlier posts, you have serious mental problems, i have had professional people look over them and, YOU HAVE PROBLEMS.

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  123. Sylo says:

    hmmmm another desperate attempt to get the last word..!!

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  124. reguired says:

    Its the truth.

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  125. Sylo says:

    hmmmm and another one..!!!

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  126. MLJ says:

    Last word…Silo!

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  127. MLJ says:

    I have but for some reason Maurice (you?) is moderating all my posts at great length.I will try and copy and paste it here.

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  128. MLJ says:

    Just copied and pasted it and it is “awaiting moderation”again. This is NOT fair Maurice and I’m not the first to say it.

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  129. MLJ says:

    It is about supporting a regime which seeks to destroy all opposition to itself. The point is reached where the support wavers because the regime becomes

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  130. MLJ says:

    more and more radical. The supporter didn’t realise that the regime would go so far and can no longer give the regime support. Then it is too late

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  131. Simon says:

    Why dont you just tell me yourself, instead of cutting and pasting some article somebody else wrote? You can think for yourself can’t you?

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  132. Simon says:

    *crosspost*

    Which is what I said. Did you not listen?

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  133. MLJ says:

    Oh i see Maurice that’s your little game is it. Simon is Maurice everyone and he is so petty it’s not true! why would i bother to copy and paste someone elses’s views you tory toff?

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  134. Simon says:

    Sat here, knowing that I am not Maurice or anything to do with him, I am thinking that you are owned Son

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  135. MLJ says:

    What???

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  136. reguired says:

    Hows the knee Sam?

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  137. Sam Pauli says:

    it gives me jip in the cold weather mate,,,,i couldny run the length of myself,thats how i learned to stand and fight!!

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  138. reguired says:

    Sam you couldn’t fight sleep.

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  139. Sam Pauli says:

    nae bother “brother”…

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  140. Simon says:

    Tell you what MLJ, I will not post for the next few hours, that way when you start to lose a argument you can’t blame me (as if I have got anything to do with it)

    I AM not Maurice

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  141. MLJ says:

    You lost the argument – you adopted dodgy tactics.

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  142. MLJ says:

    Anyway. It should be I am NOT Maurice!

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  143. Simon says:

    I have just said I won’t post for a couple of hours, did you not listen?

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  144. MLJ says:

    Well you’re posting now, you silly old Simon you!

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  145. Sam Pauli says:

    standing up to he nazis is NOT a criminal act!!!promoting racial ideoligies and inciting racial hatred IS a crime!!!so whats your point caller?

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  146. reguired says:

    If it’s gone over your head then there is no helping you or your sons little friend sylo,keep safe.

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  147. Sam Pauli says:

    is that another disguised threat?

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  148. Sam Pauli says:

    sounds like threatning behaviour ,why isnt armynutjob being moderated!

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  149. Sam Pauli says:

    YOU are the one threatning violence,are you really so righteous so cant see it?

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  150. reguired says:

    Threatening violence Sam, where?

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  151. Sam Pauli says:

    with your little innuendos…keep safe…watch your door etc etc

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  152. reguired says:

    Would that stand in a court of law Sam? I may have been talking about the law Sam.

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  153. Sam Pauli says:

    No it wouldnt,but we know what you mean!!!At least sylo is up front and to the point,unlike your mob sleekit was the word Rabbie used wsnt it?

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  154. reguired says:

    No Sam, sylo is thick.

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  155. Sam Pauli says:

    but you think that about EVERYONE!

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  156. MLJ says:

    Blimey.Yes I see what you mean Required. You’d think that Maurice would want to protect UAF or whoever they are but he’s allowing them to show their true colours. He’ll probably moderate this.

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  157. reguired says:

    When a psyco says the things he says it’s best to find him first, wouldn’t you agree Sam? This is not Sierra Leone Sam, it’s not normal to talk in that manner.

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  158. Sam Pauli says:

    You Threatened a kid,but we expect nothing else from you “brother”.you carry on .

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  159. reguired says:

    Do you know he’s a kid Sam,do you know Sylo? Didn’t you think to tell him he was out of order, or do you think he’s spot on, Sam?

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  160. Sam Pauli says:

    I think his posts are a give away that hes a kid,but havent you already been on his facebook……weirdo..

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  161. reguired says:

    Has he got facebook Sam?

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  162. Sam Pauli says:

    well you said he was dark and short,or will you deny it?

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  163. Sam Pauli says:

    so where did you FIND him then? as youve already stated

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  164. reguired says:

    Where do i live Sam? How many kids have i got?

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  165. Sam Pauli says:

    reguired ,listen mate ,you have your beliefs.ok i dont agree with them,but i wouldnt threaten you or your family or your home.so please do not try and make me out to some sort of thug…….i still dont like the bnp ….may god forgive you

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  166. Sam Pauli says:

    Whos using your season ticket?

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  167. reguired says:

    You if you want?

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  168. Sam Pauli says:

    Cheers…

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