Jabron Hashmi who was killed in Afghanistan in 2006
The BNP claims to be the only party to support British troops, but its barmy policies on non-white soldiers and the disrespectful language used by some party officials towards our troops is a disgrace.
The BNP’s recruitment policy is to have an all white (what it terms it as ”the right to remain British”) British Army. It states there should be a top limit on the number of “non-British” soldiers in forces. This policy - which amounts to a cut over a period of time - is not only highly irresponsible, particularly during a time when the Falklands crisis is heating up and British forces are fighting terrorists in Afghanistan, but also ignores the massive contribution non-white Armed Service personnel have made historically and still make today.
(In October 2009 Nothing British was consulted by Britain’s most senior Generals. They condemned the BNP’s policy and said it would damage the frontline operational capacity of the Armed Forces - putting British civilian lives at risk.)
Today’s British military has a total of 11,300 ethnic minorities serving as regular forces. Men and women from Africa, Asia, the Indian sub-continent and the Caribbean have all willingly served on the front line, as soldiers, pilots and seamen throughout Britain’s history. Ethnic minorities play a vital role in every aspect of the Armed Forces and are taking increasingly senior positions. They are risking their lives every day in Afghanistan as they bravely battle against the enemies of Britain.
The BNP dismisses claims that it is racist towards “non-British” soldiers, but party officials have used racially charged and disrespectful language towards some of Britain’s bravest and most celebrated non-white veterans.
Recent examples used by the BNP and its supporters towards non-white service personnel:
- 1. May 2009 – The party dismissed the exceptional bravery of Lance Corporal Johnson Beharry VC as “routine”. They suggested he was awarded the VC because of “politicial correctness”. They contemptuously called L/Cpl. Beharry, who lives in London but was born in Grenada, an “immigrant”.
- 2. May 2009 – Nick Griffin showed a lack of regard towards the Gurkhas when he labelled them as “mercenaries” during a BBC Radio Five Live interview. He also said he didn’t think Britain can “realistically” say “Look you can all come and all your relatives”.
- 3. August 2009 – Andrew Brons MEP referred to the former soldier and Olympic gold medalist Dame Kelly Holmes as “non-British”.
- 4. October 2009 – BNP supporter and blogger The Green Arrow, which is run by Paul Morris, condemned the contribution made by Muslim soldiers.
British voters are not only horrified by these un-patriotic examples, but also know that without the daily sacrifice of non-white servicemen and women, more British lives would be put at risk and we would not enjoy our freedom.
The British Army relies on teamwork and our servicemen standing together, the complete opposite of the BNP’s ideology of sectarianism and division.
Maurice Cousins
For more information on the BNP and the Armed Forces please read our Stolen Valour report
Here we go again,with the same load of tripe,NB when will get it into your heads 90% of the armed forces support the BNP,INDEED SOME OF OUR MEMBERS HAVE BEEN KILLED IN AFGHANISTAN.NOW TRY AND DIGEST THAT THEN.
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@WEHRMAHTBNP,
I already know you favour a military siege of London and that you favour using the army against your political opponents but could you answer the following question?
Do you agree with your party leader’s statement on hanging British generals?
http://www.leftfootforward.org/2009/10/griffin-dannatt-should-be-hanged-like-at-nuremberg/
Danke in advance of your answer, Fritz.
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I think we have more call on trying to save the Armed Forces than any of the main 3 and corrupt parties due to the fact that we shouldn’t be there and didnt send 18yo boys and girls to die in a country for profits and oil. So thats you shut up again
http://www.bnp.org.uk
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http://bnp.org.uk/tag/bnp-gurkhas/
test
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“4. October 2009 – BNP supporter and blogger The Green Arrow, which is run by Paul Morris, condemned the contribution made by Muslim soldiers.”
I see you link to the bit about “Armed Forces Muslim Association Launched”, so you think this association is a good idea?
Aren’t we going straight back down the path set by Ali Dizaei with this or worse?
If you believe in equality there should be no special pleading groups or you should allow the BNP to be selective as well.
You can’t have it both ways as it is racist & blatantly unfair not to allow whites special interest groups while at the same time allowing other non white & religious ones.
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http://bnp.org.uk/2009/05/johnson-beharry-latest-media-lie-against-bnp/
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No nation should rely on foreigners to fight its wars for it.
I think the use of non British citizens in the army etc is another way of allowing mass immigration, like the NHS it is another entry door that has been used by Labour to try & get the country beyond a tipping point ASAP.
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So what who you call someone born abroad and who now lives in London if not an immigrant?
And, although I have the greatest respect for the Gurkhas, we should note they fight for many different nations incuding India, which has far more than we have, their native Nepal, and even the US navy employs a small number. There has been at least one occasion when Gurkhas have fought ON BOTH SIDES OF THE SAME BATTLE! How is the term “mercenary” not apt?
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Well, come on Maurice! You’re a fine one to talk. You’ve set up a website dedicated to calling the only party that is actually fighting for Britain and the British, NON-BRITISH, at every possible opportunity.
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Second attempt…sigh.
Actually, Maurice you’ve set up an entire website dedicated to calling the BNP non – British which is clearly offensive nonsense.
BTW seeing as you’ve no doubt got inside info why did Dave round on Nick Griffin in the great speech yesterday? Seems a weird thing to do when Gordon should be the arch enemy. Could it have been for a cheap round of applause? A sort of tribal, shared teeth-baring?
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Maybe Dave sees Nick Griffin as the true opponent to beat?
Let’s face it, there isn’t much politically different between him & Gordon.
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Don’t feel slighted – this site loses quite a few of my posts as well; v. annoying if I’ve put effort into a long one. However they’re not censoring us; they’re just not up to running a website. Oh, and they want to run the country….
(Contrast this with the BNP website which stays up despite continuous denial-of-service attacks!)
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Yes – too true. the BNP website is really good, efficient and it posts news articles sometimes weeks before the controlled media gets hold of the story.
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Oh apparently I can! I’ll leave out a few sensitive words this time.
Right for the sixth time….
This website was set up to deny the Britishness of an organisation that is beyond any doubt, fundamentally British. The very name of this website is offensive and untrue – just try doing the same to any “pet” group and see where it gets you.
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The truth seeker Mike James journalist. Gordon Brown.
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Wow wow wow!!!!!!!
I was reading about this (well not the most salient bit) last night. Some bloke called Green has been arrested or detained up in Scotland for trying to rumble a ring of some high profile types. A Downes girl was involved. A police source came out and said “look to Westminster”.
Wow!!!! That’s why he said Westminster.
Surely this can’t be survivable???
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Maybe they have to look up the long words!
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I think you’ll need a bucket of Sensodyne for that.
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Yet again one of my comments beecomes an orphan!
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NB, it’s a disgrace that you are using the Armed Forces for political purposes in your propaganda war against the BNP. Just like your snakeoil salesman, Dave “that ghastly piece of filth” Cameron, you will stoop as low as possible to try and discredit the BNP.
Meanwhile the Tories continue to support NuLab’s illegal war in Afghan, whilst starving the army of funds and equipment.
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I think if Labour had their way there would be no divisions in the Armed Forces as the numbers would be down to few over paid bureaucrats sitting a bunker somewhere, monitoring diversity.
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That just about describes how they are “running” this poor old country.
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How to use sidewikj please?
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for IE and Firefox just install google toolbar isidewiki is on there, for google chrome follow this link, https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/fldml...
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Thanks!
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Can I post this?
http://bnp.org.uk/2009/07/more-media-lies-about-bnp-officially-retracted/
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Can’t see you succeeding in doing much discrediting, Peter! Or exposing come to that…better men than you have tried and failed…look at old Dimblebum on QT!!
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ex squaddie here.88-93.will vote bnp like many of my mates.as for the Gurkha’s,they are mercenaries whether people like it or not.they are non British citizens and are employed by the British crown to serve along side British forces.that is what a mercenary is.if the government wanted to only pay them their wage and that is it.that would fall in line with any other mercenary in the world.just like some of my friends have done in the past.they do not get a pension or the right to settle in the country that employed them……
as for personal experience i have found the Gurkha’s “jack”.squaddies will know what i am on about.
only a personal opinion formed through real life events
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Just watched Dispatches – about the IFE (there really isn’t much British about them) in Tower Hamlets and actually all over the place, infiltrating local government, at all levels. The kalifate is almost here. Is that what you really want,Peter, Maurice, James?
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Imagine that, when the terror is upon them, the scales fall from their eyes & they go Nick Griffin was right!
It will be as if the world has reversed upon its axis!
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Our troops should be at home looking after this once fine country and on standby in case the “Argies” get too pushy.If some one is born in Grenada,then they are plainly not British.Similarly those muslim suicide bombers may have been born here but were not British either!The BNP and most of its members and supporters are not racist and criticising a cult religeon or decrying too much immigration is`t either!
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“There is nothing British about spreading division in the Armed Forces”.
If the brave soldiers in said armed forces are being sent to die in illegal wars supported by all other parties there bloody well is.
You know it’s funny how, with all the lies spread about the BNP, no-one ever accuses them of having blood on their hands in regards to Iraq and Afghanistan, now why is that I wonder ? All too easily disproved, that’s why.
October 2009 – BNP supporter and blogger The Green Arrow, which is run by Paul Morris, condemned the contribution made by Muslim soldiers.
March 2010 – Lucas Heights and many other readers note that NB refers to them as “Muslim Soldiers” and not ‘British Soldiers’.
Now if British soldiers fight for Britain and Russian soldiers fight for Russia, indeed if Christian soldiers fight for Christianity, then for whom, or for what, do “Muslim soldiers” fight?
I suggest you be more careful with your choice of language in future NB, lest you want to be accused of using “racially charged and disrespectful language “.
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Greetings to all in the Caliphate of Britain
I see NB are still spewing forth the usual bile and dribble.
And this front for the Torys want British voters to believe that they will be tough when it comes to social and cultural policies. Crap. Cameron and his ilk are just a bunch of lefty wannabes, who are as much beholden to political correctness as the Greens.
Only the BNP are prepared to stand up for conserving British values, culture and heritage. I urge all ditherers to vote BNP and help stave off any more negative change in your Great country.
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Peter talks about Nick Griffin shelf stacking in the Welshpool Co-op, as if a white man can that sort of job these days, he says about a mediocrity who would get nowhere in a bigger party.
But he is a supporter of the mainstream parties which is riddled with mediocrities who have never had a proper job in their life.
David Cameron & the like, have only ever known politics, what about the charismatic head of the EU & his deputy?
Look where that has got us.
Politics has divided into two camps, on the one hand you have people like Peter who support the mainstream, he admits to voting for anyone in that camp, so he is happy with the status quo, he wants things to continue as they are.
Then you have me & others here, who won’t vote mainstream at all because we have taken the “Red pill” & see the matrix behind the facade of mainstream politics & rightly or wrongly feel that a hidden agenda is being pursued that is profoundly anti democratic, that is dishonest.
OK you can say that is conspiracy theories but increasingly evidence surfaces to support that point of view.
As in manmade global warming & all the fake evidence & lies.
Or Labour with its secret mass immigration policies or the refusal of the Conservatives to hold a referendum into the EU & so on.
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Peter says
“This is the reality of Mansfield BNP.
http://www.chad.co.uk/news/39BNP39-graffiti-on-Mansfield-mosque.6097291.jp”
But he is taking the media at face value, he should read the comments below the article.
Unless he is expressing disgust at the idea of a mosque there in the first place?
No, he is unhappy that people don’t like the presence of the mosque.
But is there any proof that the BNP did this, it suits certain people if it is thought they did.
The Muslims often present themselves as victims deserving of special favours, remind you of anyone?
I for one don’t do such stupid things but I wouldn’t want the mosque there in the first place.
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Wonder if anyone scratched their name on the London tube trains that were blown up? If I were going to scratch graffiti on a church door I doubt if I’d put my own name.
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Peter,you sound like a ex officer,loyal to institutions that want to jail me,Listen mate they is a old saying and take this on board.ITS A PATRIOTS DUTY TO HOLD THE GOVERMENT TO ACCOUNT BY WHATEVER MEANS NESSACARY.
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Peter you are scared of Nick Griffin,if your not come out and de-bate with him,you can bring along Maurice and his Lordship,for support they can hold your hand maybe.
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I used to work with Muslims too & noticed around 2001 that a new breed of very po faced young orthodox types were joining the company who didn’t mix with the infidels at all.
I sensed trouble & moved on within a few years but there is no proof that these individuals were involved in the terrorism that followed.
Ever since I first worked in London in the 80’s there have been acts of violence & terrorism that are Islamic in some way, shape or form but that was overshadowed by Irish Republican terrorism at the time.
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@ARMYBNP,
“It’s a patriot’s duty…”, sounds like an American White Nationalist saying to me. It doesn’t come from a British tradition of thought.
My only debating with the BNP will be done here, I imagine.
I am truly sorry that you think all muslims are terrorists. It is patently not true and your stereotyping will mean you never get the chance to meet a lot of friendly people.
The people I work with talk about music, films, food, clothes, sport and Facebook.
I don’t really like putting people into boxes, tribalising people and then making sweeping statements about them. We are all people – black, white, brown and all the shades in between. Some pray one way, some pray the other. Some don’t pray at all. Some are rich and some are poor. I still believe that there is a whole lot more that unites us than divides us and that we should concentrate and encourage that.
The BNP states in its constitution that it is “against racial integration in all its forms”. In the year 2010 that is simply repellent and would be rejected by all educated people – of all colours, creeds and classes.
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When they get the upper hand in a situation, you wait & see how tolerant they are.
I take it the various Dispatches programmes don’t worry you?
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A simple question for the BNP:
Would you prefer to live in a racially segregated society in place of modern Britain?
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Peter
I don’t want to live a country dominated by Islam & I want to live amongst mainly white people.
Or at least amongst people who have broadly the same world view as me.
Is that a simple plain enough answer for you?
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The other simple question I would put to Peter is, why is it that western white countries have to be multicultural, open to mass immigration & tolerant of Islam?
This doesn’t appear to happen in non white countries, as in the Japanese live in Japan, African live in various African countries, China looks, hmm, Chinese & so on.
But where there is violence there is usually Islam there too.
Where the whites invaded (India & Africa) they have been chucked out, though that doesn’t apply to Australia or the US but they are being changed too by demographics.
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“Peter says:
March 1, 2010 at 6:48 pm
And no, I am not a member of the UAF. I believe in letting the BNP speak – listening to their conspiracy theories is the best way of discrediting them – that way they cannot hide their nonsense.”
Dispatches programme……….so it’s BNP nonsense Peter……..Hmmmm??
Have you really looked around in the real world Peter.
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Peter says “I think you are just repeating the same old stories that fascists used to peddle about the Jews. You are just transposing them onto the muslim community.”
I am not getting my views from Nick Griffin or the BNP, I had my experiences & did my research then I joined the BNP as they were the only ones who seemed remotely serious about tackling the problems.
I wish I could live in your world Peter but I went through the looking glass & I am not coming back.
Enjoy your fish & curry etc, we will see how things pan out, I am not resorting to violence first or attacking mosques or standing outside peoples homes with a loudhailer.
But I am not keeping my mouth shut either.
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Having read Peter’s postings, i can only conclude that he suffers from vision impairment, deafness and stupidity. Mate, if you cannot see the demographic changes occurring due to mass, unplanned migration grom the third world to the developed world, then i want whatever you are smoking.
Ordinary people support the BNP and other like parties in other countries, because they are sick and tired of being swamped by foreigners, especially when they have had no say in these lunatic policies that have fostered mass migration.
Peter, you are not an Ostrich. Pull your head out of the sand and have a good, long look at what has really occurred in the past 40 years. Then try and understand people’s frustration. The moronic thought that drives this NB site, will do nothing to alleviate that frustration.
Vote BNP and register your protaest at governments past and present.
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Yes it goes right to the top MLJ.
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No wonder “they” are so terrified of the BNP and UKIP -they’ve got everyone else gagged and controlled!
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@MLJ Here is the link for the full video, Robert Green himself fighting this. It’s an absolute disgrace what’s going on. Watch for yourself.
http://www.ukcolumn.org/2010/02/02/child-rapists-protected-by-the-state/
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http://www.ukcolumn.org/2010/02/21/macaskills-gagging-law/
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Just looked – gob smacked!
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@MLJ & Nationalist,
Re. your sychophantic comments on http://www.BNP.Pravda.org.uk – Stalin would have liked lads like you.
I suppose you think it is a fast site!
Not controlled? There is no debate lads! What happened to the forum?
PS. Don’t forget to send a donation – Jackie Griffin needs a new kitchen.
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Just imagine what it would be like if Griffin was in charge!
I know he worked briefly for daddy as an English tutor and also that he had a spell as a shelf-stacker at the Welshpool Co-op but I see little other experience.
He split the NF, and has driven all the intelligent people out of the BNP. He surrounds himself with other mediocrities who pose no threat to him
Griffin is a mediocre political schemer who would get nowhere in a bigger party.
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Yeah and Nick Clegg and the Limp Dims would be great, NOT.
Or is it Liebour or maybe the Greens today Peter, whats your mood?
Maybe Diversity Dave has won you over? Change? err no.
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I’ll be voting for a traditional democrat, that’s for sure.
I don’t think I could vote for a blackshirt even if I wanted to; they’ve disappeared from round my way.
Did you notice that they didn’t put up any candidates in the three Mansfield council by-elections last week? Strange that, seeing as they have supporters in the area – someone scratched BNP on the door of a mosque the week previously.
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Was it you, you seem very obsessed, scared and hateful towards the BNP, and Nick Griffin is on your mind 24/7 by the looks of things.
Are you in the uaf Peter?
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Do people have a right to vote BNP?
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Three Labour council seats up for election in the East Midlands and not one BNP candidate!
This is the reality of Mansfield BNP.
http://www.chad.co.uk/news/39BNP39-graffiti-on-Mansfield-mosque.6097291.jp
A disgrace!
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Are you Peter Warzynski of the uaf?
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Yeah, people have a right to vote for the BNP.
Current opinion polls suggest about 2% will do so.
They are less popular than the Greens and the Lib Dems.
And no, I am not a member of the UAF. I believe in letting the BNP speak – listening to their conspiracy theories is the best way of discrediting them – that way they cannot hide their nonsense.
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Thank you Peter, do you think the Greens will lose votes now the Man Made Global Warming conspiracy has been exposed?
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I think the Greens will struggle to maintain their vote though not for the reason you suggest.
In the GE all the small parties will be squeezed out as people concentrate on the choice between Labour and Conservative.
If the local elections and the GE happen on the same day I fully expect the BNP to lose all their councillors up for election on that day.
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Who will you vote for? I’m voting BNP.
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Peter, I reckon you’re Sam Pauli in a slightly more erudite incarnation.You’ve maybe had to “vote for change” since Maurice got a firm grip on any naughtiness.
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The thing is Peter, us animals looking through the window can no longer tell the difference between the Pigs and the Farmers.
Tweedle dee and Tweedle dum. Vote BNP.
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I’ll probably be voting Lib Dem in the GE – tactically. As for the council elections I’ll be voting for people I know – I’m not bothered about their party so much.
I hope this explains my politics. I like elements of Labour, The Greens and the Lib Dems. I’m less keen on the Conservatives but I like the NB campaign. I don’t like UKIP. I loathe the BNP.
I post on here to try to even things up – the comments are dominated by BNPers. I also think there is little substance to the BNP beyond saloon-bar ranting and conspiracy theories.
The main reason I loathe the BNP is because of the way they talk about foreigners and non-whites using crude and cruel stereotypes. For me people are just that, people. I believe that tribal politics should have been left in the dustbin of history.
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Crude and cruel stereotypes like what Peter?
For me people are just people- apart from white Nationalists.
Tribal politics should have been left in the dustbin of history- apart from opperation black vote. Is what you mean.
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To suggest that the BNP do not stereotype non-whites is laughable!
They’ve been doing it for years!
It was less than a year ago that a BNP council candidate was videoed at a BNP “conference” burning a golliwog he’d christened “Winston” and had pronounced “guilty of being black”! What about Mark Collett being filmed in a pub calling all asylum seekers “cockroaches”? There are countless other examples.
I’m in favour of schemes which aim to bring all people together and help integrate people fully into society. I do not agree with groups which seek to isolate and divide us – like the BNP.
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I work with muslims and you know what? They’re just the same as anyone else. Friendly, pleasant and wanting a quiet life. That’s my experience with real people.
There is a tiny group of aggressive males on the fringes of muslim communities who peddle backward, simplistic, tribalistic nonsense – the mirror image of the BNP.
That’s why I always tell people that the BNP is the British Taliban.
dumbed-down
backward
tribal
anti-intellectual
anti-woman
anti-gay
aggressive
recruiting amongst the alienated
isolationist
A collective expression of stupidity and an affront to the modern world
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Don’t judge the muslims you know by islam and don’t judge islam by the muslims you know. the religion of peace dot com.
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dumbed-down
backward
tribal
anti-intellectual
anti-woman
anti-gay
aggressive
recruiting amongst the alienated
isolationist
This is islam
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No, it’s my description of the BNP mindset. It’s similar to the Jihadi mindset in many ways. They are opposite sides of the same coin – both extremist hotheads.
The vast majority of muslims are moderate. I’m sorry if that simple fact conflicts with your BNP propaganda but it is the truth. You can’t sell me your divisive poison because I know real people – not the bogeymen and women from the Daily Mail or the BNP website – real people. I know you’re talking rubbish.
Fascists throughout history have always tried to inflate and inflame differences between communities for their own nefarious gain. The BNP is no different.
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There is a tiny group of aggressive males on the fringes of muslim communities, about 6. The sky is pink here and the fluffy bunnies talk to us and the sun shines all the time, a land with few pot-holes and we don’t need cars. Vote for Peter, vote for delusional la la land.
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Peter.you are very correct,Yes hang them ,and they proscibed to a illegal war,They are as guilty as Blair and co.Also in the Nuremberg trials,the Allies hung Nazi Generals only because,They were in partenrship in progressing by force invading BORDERS AND NOTHING ELSE.
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YES.
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@WEHRMACHTBNP,
Thanks for your honest reply.
Now could you also be honest by admitting your loyalty is not to this country and its institutions. Where is your loyalty? With Nick Griffin’s European fascist movement? With white people worldwide?
Please let us know.
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Come on WTF, you seem more reasonable than the likes of ARMYBNP!
I think you are just repeating the same old stories that fascists used to peddle about the Jews. You are just transposing them onto the muslim community.
It’s all “us” and “them” divisive stuff. I just find it all claptrap.
I’ll still be going down to my favourite Bengali caff tomorrow – and do you know what we’ll be talking about? Fish masala and cricket!
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I couldn’t have put it better myself WTF. Spot on!
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