Ministry of Defence
A racist website with close links to the BNP has called Islam the “Cult of the Dead Paedophile” and condemned the contribution made by British Muslim servicemen to Britain’s Armed Forces.
The Green Arrow web site, run by the BNP supporter Paul Morris, writes that “no true” servicemen would want to serve with “a bunch of moslems whose loyalty is not towards our country but to a dead pervert”.
The Green Arrow (GA) writes that front line soldiers should be concerned about serving with Muslims because they might get fragged or shot by their own side. On serving with Muslims on the front line the GA wrote: “I would be thinking fragging and friendly fire”.
And in a reference to the Muslim service personnel in the RAF, the GA wrote that they couldn’t be trusted because they come from a relgion that believes, “the primary role of a plane is to be flown into a building”.
The GA’s un-patriotic and inflammatory blog was a reaction to the news that the Armed Forces have formed a support network for Britain’s Muslim servicemen and women. The association, which aims to improve social cohesion with Britain’s Islamic communities, has been wholeheartedly supported by Britain’s top military brass.
Defence Minister Kevan Jones MP told Nothing British: “I am extremely proud of the diversity within our Armed Forces and I recognise the contribution, dedication and sacrifice of all our personnel. Muslim personnel, many of whom I have met stationed in the UK and abroad, are serving with distinction and currently hold a number of senior positions.”
General Sir David Richards, Chief of the General Staff and a former commander in Afghanistan, said: “I am a huge supporter of the creation of the Armed Forces Muslim Association. It reflects the growing numbers, importance and relevance of the Muslim soldiers, sailors and airmen serving the United Kingdom with such distinction today and, I have no doubt, in the future.”
L/Cpl Jabron Hashmi died fighting in Afghanistan
Muslims have been fighting in Britain’s Armed Forces since 1757 when a number joined the East India Company. During World War Two many Muslims gave their lives in the fight against Nazism, including people like SOE agent Noor Inayat Khan GC MBE, one of only three women to be awarded the George Cross. Khan was tortured to death in 1944 by Gestapo agents in France.
In recent conflicts British Muslims have made the ultimate sacrifice for their country. In 2006 Lance Corporal Jabron Hashmi, a 24-year-old military intelligence specialist, was killed while fighting in Afghanistan against Al-Qaeda and the Taliban.
One could be forgiven for thinking that the GA is a lunatic and on the outer fringes of the BNP. However, in December last year he was invited as a “welcome guest” of Bridgend BNP. Morris’s blog is extremely popular amongst BNP internet users and has been used as a intermediary by sympathisers such as Bill Murray, former secretary of the Welsh BNP and Director of Soldiers off the Street, in their quarrels with anti-BNP campaigners over their links to the extremist party.
UPDATE
Liam Fox MP, Conservative Shadow Defence Secretary, has told Nothing British: All members of our Armed Forces are hugely valued regardless of their gender, race or religion. We should always celebrate the contribution they make to our national security and our national wellbeing.
Nothing British comment:
If you are prepared to give your life to help protect Britain and her national interests you are a welcome addition to our society. The Green Arrow’s crude and disrespectful remarks are un-patriotic, dangerous and divisive.
Also see
The “We were there” campaign to learn more about the historic contribution of ethnic minorities to Britain’s Armed Forces.
Tags: Paul Morris, The Green Arrow
“Armed Forces Muslim Association” sounds like another special interests QUANGO of which we have many already, no doubt paid for by the taxpayer.
Whereas SOTS a charity is condemned for being set up.
There have been a lot of complaints about the treatment of armed forces personnel & they should all get the same treatment, not some being represented by their own lobby group.
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If you are prepared to give your life to help protect Britain and her national interests you are a welcome addition to our society.
This is an absurd claim on many levels. First of all soldiers do not intend to give their lives. The only logical way to test your candidates for citizenship if you hold to that standard is to kill them — shades of the old witch ducking problem. Also, if this were policy any number of people may choose to serve in the British military and thereby gain citizenship. How many? Ten million? Fifty million? 100 million? Who knows? Britain has a national interest in not increasing its population at all, but you would guarantee essentially uncontrolled immigration and a population explosion — and every one of your foreign legion would have spouses, children, parents or siblings. Not such a good idea is it… just a nice tolerant sounding bit of ‘anti-racist’ fluff that’d destroy the country if any fool made it official policy.
And the word ‘addition’ — you imply that the Muslims serving in the forces are more likely than not to have started out as foreign nationals. Surely this isn’t the case – most of the Muslims serving in the British forces will have been born and bred here, won’t they? I’m sure in your terms they’re already just as British as you or me and do not need to prove their loyalty…?
I’ll leave it there, thanking the Gods that Green Arrow and his team-mates are much better bloggers than you guys.
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Maurice, Maurice, Maurice
Your at it again mate!
An individual on a tenuously related link on the internet, makes a couple of alleged , derogatory remarks …. all of a sudden, the BNP are neo-nazis again!
The other day, you catagorically said that this website, NothingBritish, did not consider the BNP to be a neo-nazi party. Now you are at it again! Make your mind up.
If the heir apparent torys want to capture that disgruntled white working class; stop the flood of uneducated, non english speaking migrants, from going to Britain. They are only competing for very scarce jobs in Britain.
As for that dickhead Dellham, your 12 million is a pittance.
A pittance no doubt to the hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds spent on bullshit, multicultural programs.
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neo nazis again?they were and always will be
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Neo Nazi’s eh?
I always wondered what the surname of the hero in the Matrix was!
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Just so you know, ‘Fellist’ is a neo-Nazi conspiracy nut who denies the Holocaust and writes of ‘Holocaustianity’.
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Ah I thought Fellist just meant he was keen on the “Fells”?
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i thought he was a dyslexic celloist!
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Well he could be one of those as well but I doubt it, how about…… ahh I am crap at anagrams!
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Hi guys still scrabbling around hoping for a link I see. Dream on.
Unlike you girls I have actually served 12 years in the armed forces as have four of my brothers and on Remembrance Day we all wear our decorations with pride.
My father was decorated for his actions on D-Day so do not have the temerity to write about my patriotism.
I know dozens of BNP members are ex-servicemen and there are more serving members joining every day.
You like, like your “big beast” Clarke are dinosaurs whose day has almost ended.
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all the poppies in the world wont bring them back
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Edmund, my comments at your blog relating to that part of WWII don’t amount to denial, and if you’re chasing me around the internet you’ll find I don’t deny your theory anywhere else either. And while I’d sooner live under Hitler’s regime than Brown’s or Cameron’s I’d prefer any perfectly middle of the road pre-WWII British administration to the lot of ‘em. As to conspiracies – they happen all the time – the only nuts are those who think the most powerful and influential don’t engage in the practice.
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right thats it confirmed…fellist is a grade one nutjob,he d rather live under the nazi jackboot than in a free democracy,the men in white coats are on their way fellist(and its not the kkk)your going for a little holiday now(they ll throw away the key)
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Free? Democracy? Show me.
I’m fond of quoting a certain well-connected BBC opinion former in describing the regime we live under now that the establishment’s program of race-repacement has led to social chaos; can you guess who wrote this ode to freedom and democracy, Sam?
“the final answer, frankly, is the vigorous use of state power to coerce and repress. It may be my Presbyterian background, but I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain ‘natural’ beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off. The police are first in line to be burdened further, but a new Race Relations Act will impose the will of the state on millions of other lives too”.
And all because the establishment parties would not let us live unmolested in our homelands. But the BNP are the problem… sure!
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Fellist
i have got to draw the with you! I am not a fan of nazis and the BNP are not about reintroducing the Mosley style of fascism. While i oppose unregulated mass migration from the third world to the developed world, i cannot support nazis. They are not British and probably best remain on the other side of the channel.
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fellist recently claimed hed rather live under hitlers management than brown or camerons,but he says hes not a nazi…my srse
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You selectively quote me, Sam. Didn’t I add that I would prefer any pre-WWII British government to Hitler’s? Now, what kind of a ‘nazi’ would say that, Sam?
Why lie?
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“And while id sooner live under Hitlers regime than Browns or Camerons” its there for all to see fellist,everyone now knows your a brownshirt
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its as plain as ein,zwei,drei
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Yes, I’m happy to repeat that statement. I’d rather live under Hitler than Brown or Cameron. Much rather in fact.
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wouldnt all bnp supporters?
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ye cany beat a guid bit of fascism tae keep the bams in line
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Sam: “wouldnt all bnp supporters?”
No. But a more interesting question is how many people would prefer, like me, the domestic policies and especially the answers to the National Question of Baldwin or Macdonald, say, over those of the interchangeables Brown and Cameron?
Another question: why, if the BNP’s policies on those issues are essentially the same as Labour’s under Macdonald and the Conservatives under Baldwin, do we see the BNP constantly smeared for its history while the establishment parties get a pass? If the BNP today are neo-nazis, then the pre-war Conservatives and Labour were nazis!
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“the final answer, frankly, is the vigorous use of state power to coerce and repress. It may be my Presbyterian background, but I firmly believe that repression can be a great, civilising instrument for good. Stamp hard on certain ‘natural’ beliefs for long enough and you can almost kill them off. The police are first in line to be burdened further, but a new Race Relations Act will impose the will of the state on millions of other lives too”.
That’s Andrew Marr’s famous quote?
What do I win?
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You know the answer to that, WTF: if you vote BNP you win your country back, if you vote Conservative you’ll continue to lose it.
[Loving your work here btw.]
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Thank you, I do my best to entertain & educate the masses.
Even Sam loves me, though he spoil it now by saying he doesn’t!
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So when the Conservatives win the next election & if the BNP have a coupla seats, then disillusion sets in with Dave Cameron, (I mean will he even have a honeymoon period?) then what will the tone of this website be like then?
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love and peace to all
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Well one can hope I guess!
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cant see it …too much hatred in the world today
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and most of it directed at the usa and uk,why is that?dosent the rest of the world see us as the happy go lucky liberal society thet we are,shame on them.
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Russia often feels quite persecuted, so does Iran, Israel & so on.
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moslem extremists hate the west, because we are an affront to their mediavel religion. The rest are jealous.
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i know they canny get a macdonalds or nuffin man
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I guess not, I don’t recall seeing a fat taliban.
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i dont recall that either..but if america get their way,well,the rest is hollywood history
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WTF… thats an exclamation (not a message for you WTF)
Medieval religion lol unless your a sikh or youve joined tom cruise and travolta in worshipping L ron Hubbard. They are all bloody medieval or prehistoric.
Wake up to Afghanistan its all about the gas !!! they need to pipe the stuff accros to the indian ocean from the central asian producers so in the next 20 yrs when north sea gas runs low/short we dont have to go cap in hand to russia. (I work in the gas/Oil industry) The US bases are even along the proposed route of the pipeline. The taliban visited bush in Texas (before the planes hit) ready to sign on the line. We are fighting energy wars.
Afghanistan is the arsehole of the world, Not worth the life of a single British soldier.
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sam is that a sausage and egg mcNuffin?? lol
you cant get one of them after 10.30 anywhere
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some of the Indian Regimental contribututions during ww1. The figures in brackets are those who paid the ultimate price.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning we will remember them.
All figures courtesy of the commonwealth war graves commission
1st Brahmans (119)
1st Duke of York’s Lancers (Skinner’s Horse) (34)
1st Kashmir (Imperial Service) Mountain Artillery (25)
1st Kashmir Infantry (2)
1st Kashmir Infantry (Raghu Partab Regiment) (19)
1st King George’s Own Gurkha Rifles (The Malaun Regiment) (627)
1st King George’s Own Sappers and Miners (269)
1st Patiala Infantry (22)
1st Queen Victoria’s Own Corps of Guides (F.F.) (Lumsden’s) (19)
1st Rifle Regiment, Nepalese Contingent (38)
2nd Kashmir Rifles (Body Guard Regiment) (107)
2nd King Edward’s Own Gurkha Rifles (The Sirmoor Rifles) (763)
2nd Lancers (Gardner’s Horse) (87)
2nd Queen Victoria’s Own Corps of Guides (F.F.) (Lumsden’s) (5)
2nd Queen Victoria’s Own Rajput Light Infantry (313)
2nd Queen Victoria’s Own Sappers and Miners (307)
3rd Brahmans (140)
3rd Gaur Brahmans (23)
3rd Kashmir Rifles (Raghunath Regiment) (52)
3rd Lancers (Skinner’s Horse) (91)
3rd Queen Alexandra’s Own Gurkha Rifles (736)
3rd Sappers and Miners (544)
4th Gurkha Rifles (723)
4th Indian Cavalry (43)
4th Prince Albert Victor’s Rajputs (157)
5th Gurkha Rifles (Frontier Force) (544)
5th Indian Cavalry (51)
5th Light Infantry (229)
6th Gurkha Rifles (410)
6th Jat Light Infantry (298)
6th King Edward’s Own Cavalry (85)
7th Duke of Connaught’s Own Rajputs (493)
7th Gurkha Rifles (633)
7th Hariana Lancers (128)
8th Gurkha Rifles (721)
8th Indian Cavalry (37)
8th Rajputs (200)
9th Bhopal Infantry (485)
9th Gurkha Rifles (544)
9th Hodson’s Horse (55)
10th Duke of Cambridge’s Own Lancers (Hodson’s Horse) (93)
10th Gurkha Rifles (616)
10th Jats (217)
11th Gurkha Rifles (65)
11th King Edward’s Own Lancers (Probyn’s Horse) (67)
11th Rajputs (313)
12th Indian Cavalry (51)
12th Indian Pioneers (Kelat-i-Ghilzie Regiment) (126)
13th Duke of Connaught’s Own Lancers (Watson’s Horse) (49)
13th Rajputs (Shekhawati Regiment) (112)
14th King George’s Own Ferozepore Sikhs (443)
14th Murray’s Jat Lancers (100)
15th Lancers (Cureton’s Multani’s) (82)
15th Ludhiana Sikhs (257)
16th Indian Cavalry (117)
16th Rajputs (Lucknow Regiment) (383)
17th Indian Cavalry (51)
17th Indian Infantry (Loyal Regiment) (108)
18th Indian Infantry (83)
18th King George’s Own Lancers (83)
19th Lancers (Fane’s Horse) (72)
19th Punjabis (279)
20th Deccan Horse (124)
20th Duke of Cambridge’s Own Infantry (Brownlow’s Punjabis) (262)
21st Prince Albert Victor’s Own Cavalry (F.F.) (Daly’s Horse) (91)
21st Punjabis (156)
22nd Punjabis (444)
22nd Sam Browne’s Cavalry (Frontier Force) (67)
23rd Indian Cavalry (Frontier Force) (100)
23rd Sikh Pioneers (136)
24th Punjabis (410)
25th Indian Cavalry (Frontier Force) (85)
25th Punjabis (128)
26th King George’s Own Light Cavalry (53)
26th Punjabis (130)
27th Indian Light Cavalry (105)
27th Punjabis (190)
28th Indian Light Cavalry (73)
28th Punjabis (338)
29th Lancers (Deccan Horse) (132)
29th Punjabis (227)
30th Lancers (Gordon’s Horse) (80)
30th Punjabis (327)
31st Duke of Connaught’s Own Lancers (126)
31st Punjabis (100)
32nd Lancers (85)
32nd Sikh Pioneers (92)
33rd Punjabis (166)
33rd Queen Victoria’s Own Light Cavalry (104)
34th Prince Albert Victor’s Own Poona Horse (127)
34th Sikh Pioneers (303)
35th Scinde Horse (41)
35th Sikhs (290)
36th Jacob’s Horse (117)
36th Sikhs (217)
37th Dogras (219)
37th Lancers (Baluch Horse) (71)
38th Dogras (123)
38th King George’s Own Central India Horse (99)
39th Garhwal Rifles (683)
39th King George’s Own Central India Horse (27)
40th Indian Cavalry Regiment (12)
40th Pathans (199)
41st Dogras (257)
41st Indian Cavalry Regiment (13)
42nd Deoli Regiment (183)
42nd Indian Cavalry Regiment (12)
43rd Erinpura Regiment (57)
44th Indian Cavalry Regiment (1)
44th Merwara Infantry (139)
45th Rattray’s Sikhs (327)
46th Punjabis (126)
47th Sikhs (263)
48th Indian Pioneers (501)
49th Bengalis (61)
50th Kumaon Rifles (63)
51st Sikhs (Frontier Force) (367)
52nd Sikhs (Frontier Force) (214)
53rd Sikhs (Frontier Force) (272)
54th Sikhs (Frontier Force) (198)
55th Coke’s Rifles (Frontier Force) (220)
56th Punjabi Rifles (Frontier Force) (464)
57th Wilde’s Rifles (Frontier Force) (255)
58th Vaughan’s Rifles (Frontier Force) (418)
59th Scinde Rifles (Frontier Force) (355)
61st King George’s Own Pioneers (167)
62nd Punjabis (168)
63rd Palamcottah Light Infantry (69)
64th Pioneers (97)
66th Punjabis (424)
67th Punjabis (286)
69th Punjabis (212)
70th Burma Rifles, Indian Army (38)
71st Punjabis (40)
72nd Punjabis (174)
73rd Carnatic Infantry (37)
73rd Malabar Infantry (1)
74th Punjabis (94)
75th Carnatic Infantry (60)
76th Punjabis (386)
79th Carnatic Infantry (40)
80th Carnatic Infantry (67)
81st Pioneers (149)
82nd Punjabis (332)
83rd Wallajahbad Light Infantry (124)
84th Punjabis (120)
85th Burma Rifles, Indian Army (6)
86th Carnatic Infantry (63)
87th Punjabis (234)
88th Carnatic Infantry (47)
89th Punjabis (291)
90th Punjabis (184)
91st Punjabis (Light Infantry) (187)
92nd Punjabis (264)
93rd Burma Infantry, Indian Army (201)
94th Russell’s Infantry (210)
95th Russell’s Infantry (90)
96th Berar Infantry (87)
97th Deccan Infantry (276)
98th Indian Infantry (390)
99th Deccan Infantry (264)
101st Indian Grenadiers (327)
102nd King Edward’s Own Grenadiers (356)
103rd Mahratta Light Infantry (545)
104th Wellesley’s Rifles (523)
105th Mahratta Light Infantry (450)
106th Hazara Pioneers (59)
107th Indian Pioneers (242)
108th Indian Infantry (121)
109th Indian Infantry (159)
110th Mahratta Light Infantry (431)
111th Mahars (11)
112th Indian Infantry (304)
113th Indian Infantry (462)
114th Mahrattas (184)
116th Mahrattas (167)
117th Mahrattas (386)
119th Indian Infantry (Mooltan Regiment) (558)
120th Rajputana Infantry (640)
121st Indian Pioneers (131)
122nd Rajputana Infantry (238)
123rd Outram’s Rifles (451)
124th Duchess of Connaught’s Own Baluchistan Infantry (518)
125th Napier’s Rifles (295)
126th Baluchistan Infantry (159)
127th Queen Mary’s Own Baluch Light Infantry (192)
128th Indian Pioneers (124)
129th Duke of Connaught’s Own Baluchis (296)
130th King George’s Own Baluchis (Jacob’s Rifles) (204)
140th Patiala Infantry (1)
142nd Jodhpur Infantry, Indian States Forces (17)
145th Alwar Infantry (1)
150th Indian Infantry (207)
151st Indian Infantry (56)
151st Punjab Rifles (10)
151st Sikh Infantry (13)
152nd Indian Infantry (15)
152nd Punjabis (94)
153rd Indian Infantry (9)
153rd Punjabis (55)
153rd Rifles (27)
154th Indian Infantry (60)
155th Indian Infantry (6)
155th Indian Pioneers (23)
Aden Artillery (1)
Aden Railway (5)
Aden Troop, Indian Army (3)
Alwar Infantry (29)
Alwar Lancers (12)
Anglo Indian Force (10)
Army Bearer Corps (1345)
Army Hospital Corps (495)
Assam Military Police (198)
Assam Rifles (100)
Bahawalpur Mounted Rifles and Camel Transport (22)
Bangalore Volunteer Rifles (2)
Benares State Ambulance Transport Corps (2)
Bengal North Western Railway (1)
Bharatpur (Imperial Service) Transport Corps (83)
Bharatpur Infantry (104)
Bhavnagar Lancers (5)
Bhopal Victoria Lancers (25)
Bihar Labour Corps (17)
Bikaner Camel Corps (1)
Bikaner Sadul Light Infantry, Indian States Forces (25)
Bombay Volunteer Artillery (3)
Bombay Volunteer Rifles (2)
Bullock Corps (611)
Burma Labour Corps (3)
Burma Military Police (783)
Burma Railways (1)
Burma Sappers and Miners, Indian Army (8)
Bushire Light Railway (1)
Calcutta Volunteer Rifles (6)
Camel Corps (592)
Corps of Guides and Interpreters, Indian Army (3)
Department of the Judge Advocate General In India (1)
Euphrates Levy (1)
Faridkot Imperial Service Sappers (30)
Followers Central Depot (1135)
Frontier Garrison Artillery (3)
Ganga Risala Bikaner (32)
Governor’s Body Guard, Indian Army (1)
Gwalior Infantry (72)
Gwalior Lancers (2)
Gwalior Transport Corps (37)
Hyderabad Lancers (42)
I.A.M.L. Accounts Department (2)
Idar Sardars Corps (1)
Indian Army (114)
Indian Army Chaplains’ Department (1)
Indian Army General List (1)
Indian Army Medical Corps (39)
Indian Army Postal Service (20)
Indian Army Remount Department (180)
Indian Army Reserve of Officers (333)
Indian Army Sanitary Section (2)
Indian Army Signal Units (23)
Indian Army Unattached List (20)
Indian Civil Service (1)
Indian Civil Veterinary Department (1)
Indian Coast Artillery (7)
Indian Defence Force (33)
Indian Defence Force Artillery (5)
Indian Ecclesiastical Establishment (1)
Indian Engineers (7)
Indian Government Stationery Department (1)
Indian Hospital Corps (11)
Indian Labour Corps (6561)
Indian Machine Gun Corps (58)
Indian Medical Department (70)
Indian Medical Service (122)
Indian Merchant Service (1841)
Indian Military Works Services (512)
Indian Miscellaneous List (9)
Indian Mountain Artillery (672)
Indian Ordnance Department (201)
Indian Police Force (68)
Indian Political Department (17)
Indian Postal and Telegraph Department (474)
Indian Railway Corps (31)
Indian Railway Department (1903)
Indian Railways (275)
Indian Royal Artillery (1260)
Indian Signal Corps (305)
Indian Subordinate Medical Department (32)
Indian Survey Department (60)
Indian Telegraph (6)
Indian Veterinary Corps (174)
Indian Volunteer Corps (5)
Indo-European Telegraphic Department (2)
Indore Mounted Escort (6)
Indore Transport Corps (36)
Inland Water Transport, Royal Engineers (1966)
Jaipur Transport Corps (128)
Jind Infantry (121)
Jodhpur (Imperial Service) Lancers (53)
Jodhpur Lancers, Indian States Forces (3)
Junagadh Lancers (1)
Kapurthala Infantry (Jagatjit Regiment) (67)
Kashmir Lancers (4)
Khairpur Mounted Rifles and Camel Corps (5)
Labour Company United Provinces (6)
Labour Directorate (2)
Madras and Southern Mahratta Railway Rifles (2)
Madras Artillery Volunteers (15)
Madras Guards, Auxiliary Force (India) (1)
Madras Volunteer Force (3)
Mahindra Dal Regiment, Nepalese Contingent (21)
Malay States Guides, Indian Army (36)
Maler-Kotla Imperial Service Sappers (22)
Maxim Gun Section, Indian Army (4)
Military Accounts Department, India (39)
Military Farms Department (1)
Military Grass and Diary Farm (1)
Military Police and Levies (407)
Military Railway (5)
Mule Corps (3235)
Mysore Imperial Service Troops (1)
Mysore Lancers (42)
Mysore Transport Corps (23)
Nabha Infantry (6)
Naga Hills Military Police (2)
Navanagar Lancers, Ind I S C (18)
North West Frontier Province Police (1)
Palestine Railway Construction Company (14)
Patiala (Rajindra) Lancers (23)
Patiala Infantry (64)
Pony Corps (10)
Port Construction (6)
Port Directorate (18)
Public Works Department (3)
Queen Victoria’s Own Corps of Guides (F.F.) (Lumsden’s) (5)
Queen Victoria’s Own Corps of Guides Cavalry (F.F.) (Lumsden’s) (30)
Queen Victoria’s Own Corps of Guides Infantry (F.F.) (Lumsden’s) (245)
Quetta Cadet Corps (1)
Rampur Infantry (15)
Rangoon Volunteer Regiment (1)
Royal Engineers, Auxiliary Force (India) (1)
Royal Garrison Artillery, Indian Army (196)
Royal Horse and Field Artillery, Indian Army (836)
Royal Indian Marine (517)
Sappers and Miners, Indian States Forces (13)
Sardar Risala Jodhpur Lancers (67)
Sirmur Imperial Service Sapper Corps (82)
Southern Provinces Mounted Rifles (1)
Supply and Transport Corps (3775)
Syce Corps (25)
Tehri Imperial Service Sappers (25)
Works Directorate (39)
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Voice of Reason: They were fighting for their own people, not for me and mine. Good on ‘em, but it doesn’t entitle them and all other people’s to England. ‘England belongs to the English’ said Gandhi, he had to seeing as he was arguing that India belongs to the Indians and that the Brits should leave. Eventually we came to see that Gandhi was right about the Indian claim on India… why do you deny the English their homeland?
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“Voice of reason
Medieval religion lol unless your a sikh or youve joined tom cruise and travolta in worshipping L ron Hubbard. They are all bloody medieval or prehistoric.”
I think AussieAl meant they were stuck in the medieval ages but your point is basically correct.
I think it is about 1412 or so in the Islamic calendar?
That’s an impressive list by the way, I went & looked at the new memorial by Buck’ House too.
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hopefully buck hoose will be a museum in the near future,or we could give it over to “shelter” lots of white homeless people in london.kick lizzie and phillip out give them a council house in moss side.
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Can’t we put them up at your place Sam?
They could sing the National Anthem to you.
Actually I think the Queen doesn’t know the words as she never sings it to herself.
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“Cult of the Dead Paedophile”
Factually correct.
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I think Voice of reason is correct about Afghanistan & the gas pipeline.
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I agree, F. William Engdahl’s “A Century of War” is excellent on that subject, WTF.
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no queen, here,she couldnt live on chips n haggis,too much pomp and circumstance,and im certaily no wiping her over priviliged arse for her
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lizzi would need to get preggers claim to be single mum and change her name to liz dziekanowski to get a house here,but if the bnp get in surely they must repatriate her to her ancesteral home,Germany,maybe the bnp have got their uses
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thats twice this week i stuuck up for the nazis,bejeesus
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Sam, that’s becoming a bad habit (for you)!
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i know ,but like all bad habits ,we have to FIGHT them
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Sounds like violence is not far away?
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for fighting our bad habits,strange,im a pacifist i dont indulge in violence,unlike the british who thrive on it
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Fellist is at it again.
The list above was of those who fell in “The great war” (what was great about it im yet to learn). So my ancestors came 6000 miles and stood beside yours in the trenches to fight for their own country did they? That must have been one loooonnnng trench, that it stretched from Europe to Asia. Now Independance wasnt on the table at the time of WWI, so any one who fought wasnt defending India from any possible invasion. The fact is thanks to the days of the empire lots of people accross the globe see Britain as the “mother country” and came to her aid in her hour of need. the Canadians came, the Australians came, people from the West Indies people came from tiny little islands, remote and distant from the horrors of the trenches.
To suggest their motives were selfish is an insult. But then that seems to be quite a habit for the BNP and their ilk. Didnt they Insult the Gurkhas? And a recipient of the vc? youre as bad as that guy who pissed on the wreath at the cenotaph.
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well well and hears me thinking it was only ENGLISH soldiers that fought and died
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he’ll deny that the battle of britain was won with the help of polish Airmen.
He’ll deny the earth is a sphere if a flat earth means he can shove non white people over the side…
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he cannot deny that he is a twat though
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Well he’ll do a bit of research and copy and paste some shit on here to justify himself. But Twat is as Twat does. to use the wisdom of gump.
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Must remember about the war thing. The Scots came with thir many fine regiments and their many brave men. They dont call it scotland the brave for nothing. Funny that England goes around the world conquering all sorts of places and when it gets into trouble they still all come and help… oh yeah theyre doing it for themselves arent they lol
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So you are not English now, as you say “they”?
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The BNP knew full well that the Spitfire shown was a Polish one.
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The they was in reference to Fellist saying that “they” as in commonwealth war dead were doing it for themselves. Sorry i couldve structured that sentence better.
Did they F@&K know it was a polish spitfire! they quickly hashed up an excuse to cover the fact they took the first decent image of a spitfire and used it.You dont really think a polish spitfire would have the desired effect of getting people irate with polish migrant workers do you? come on wtf dont believe the hype
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oh yes they knew it was a polish spitfire alright,because those enlightened chaps down at the bnp have welcomed the poles with open arms havent they?
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No it was the media that started banging on about the Poles & white Euro immigrants because they could do that without being called racist.
The BNP had already raised concerns about mass immigration but were called racist etc.
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Theyve all pissed off now anyway havent they? You see the bnp is too reactionary, their polices hinge around the latest events.. 9/11 lets switch to muslims. Polish immigrants lets move onto them. Hook handed Cleric lets run with sharia law. Its almost as if they go down to the local pub and eavesdrop on what the mutterings of the disenchanted are and them shoehorn them into policy. Ignoring the race thing altogether they go with this anti Europe but in charge of Europe…??? Just like the the tories. wtf is that all about either youre in bed with the whore or your not. You cant keep one foot on the floor outside the bed and still claim morality.
The candidates they field in elections are a joke. Im no fan of the old boys club but jesus they put up criminals and people who are wholly unqualified to lead a scout group never mind represent the people as they deserve. Where will they find the economists, the people who are going to encourage investment in education, when their supporters(with a few exeptions of course) have had access to free education for decades and havent made use of it. How are they going to make us better? The environmental policies are ridiculous “just build nuclear reactors” have they even considered how they are going to decomission our current ageing reactors.
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I know we face a lot of problems going into this new century. We need foresight from our politicians. We arent going to be manufacturing anything in 50yrs lets face it. What we will be exporting is our expertise into a global jobs market. We have a pensions timebomb ticking away and we neeed people to work, not claim “my back hurts” and run marathons or teach karate in their spare time. Our health service is the envy of the world based on honest Values but its full of paper pushers and wasted on health tourists. Lets make things better not shuffle deckchairs on a rapidly sinking ship. Going back to the environment its all about injecting cash into nationalised public transport. Bulding offshore windfarms(Just over the horizon so they dont spoil our beautiful coastline) and building the odd reactor where we already have them.
Growing our own food where we can and helping others to grow theirs and we take a slice of it to cover our investment. We are the people who built the world, can we not re-build ourselves.
Housing is easy. Maggie sold off all the council houses to create the new homeowner classes and never bothered to replace the stock, hence the social housing shortage and the complaints about immigrants. We have a construction industry thats dying on its feet with thousands unemployed.
Build new towns on brownfield sites, give jobs to young people, put money in their pockets so they can spend it in our shops,economic recovery would be almost instant. The BNP is not thee answer WHATEVER THE QUESTION IS
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No they haven’t all “pissed” off, some have stayed & made a life.
So you are saying the BNP shouldn’t react to events?
They should stick with a policy for years & years?
No party does that.
I don’t think the BNP claim to be in charge of Europe or want to be.
The EU project is what we are talking about.
They have had to use the system as it is to make political gains.
After all the tactic of the liberal left appears to be destroy from within, rot & corrode the structures, so the BNP seem themselves as spanners in the works rather than cogs in the machine.
So we are in bed with the whore (the EU?), will we catch the clap from her or will the condom hold?
The policy is to leave as you can’t run things & be in the EU, trade by all means.
As for the big stuff you mention, that will come later, after all it is not going to be their problem with 2 MP’s in 2010.
If they get to a situation where they can run things then things will be more worked out by then.
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WE NEED TO BE IN EUROPE .. THEY WILL SHAFT US IF WE ARE NOT THERE.
when its down to 3 or 4 big economies we will be isolated and alone. Its gonna be the euro the dollar the rupee and something for japan australia taiwan etc
the trade agreements are there already its a matter of time .. the pound is dead bring on the euro
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They are doing a better job of shafting us now, than Issac Hayes & Richard Rowntree could do, our parliament is redundant, the Conservatives are pointless as they are not going to leave the EU, so they have no control over anything.
They will do what they are told & people will resent the increasingly top down approach of having to fit into a superstate run for the convenience of an unelected politburo.
Especially the guilty until proven innnocent & permission for everything approach.
If as you suggest there is a Asian Union & a American one as well, that suggests that the conspiracy theorists are correct in that a NWO is being formed, a one world government.
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Well guess youll have to guard your flank aswell …. Its not your fault your at the pointy end but your “Christian” ex prime minister/president started it remember. The guy in texas theyd been abusing him for a while before he flipped. As for the Afghan policeman ten points to the taliban for infiltrating the police force. Do you think mi5/6 havent got brown skinned lads from England inside their organisation … theyre just gathering intelligence as opposed to launching attacks. Its a dirty game but its what we pay you for …
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Perhaps the recent event at Nad-e-Ali will alert the armed forces to the grave dangers of recruiting dedicated Muslims.
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Sorry VoR but I refuse to see this guy as a victim, he should have left the army & the US, he did not see himself as American.
He was a Major, so how picked on could he be?
Mind you if he made a habit of walking around in traditional Arab dress in Texas instead of a cowboy hat then I can see that some abuse might come his way.
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“Hmmm if the arab dress is an issue then maybe bikinis worn at sharm el sheik are an invitation to be raped… discuss”
I won’t defend bikinis at Sharm el Sheik, if the citizens don’t want such things then they should be banned & visitors have to understand the rules, don’t go to someone else’s country & take the piss, expect consequences.
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Yes the agenda is dishonest, they should tell the truth & give us a vote on it.
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We agree again. More killed today and more killed tomorrow until the embarassing withdrawal in say 5 yrs max. In that time though Israel will strike Iran and Iran will up the ante and start an organised global campaign of terrorism. Al Qaida dosent exist but hezbollah do!
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