“‘Open-door’ Labour has betrayed us all” – Trevor Kavanagh, The Sun
Reacting to the news that Downing Street (read Andrew Neather’s Evening Standard column) has lied about the scale of migrants entering the UK, Trevor Kavanagh writes this damning conclusion:
“It is now likely the BNP will win a seat at Westminster at the next General Election. In the BBC view, that akes them ’respectable’.
It is impossible to predict how Labour’s irresponsible experiment will pan out.
We might end up like New York – a dynamic, energetic and creative economic powerhouse.
We might become a troubled, divided and quarrelsome country with too few immigrants who really want to work and too many who wish to bring this country crashing to its knees through violence.
But whatever the outcome, thanks to Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and Home Secretaries like Jack Straw, none of us had a damn thing to say about it.”
Our smug leaders have done nothing to see off the BNP – Charles Moore, Daily Telegraph
On Saturday, Charles Moore, Chairman of Policy Exchange and author of the foreword to Stolen Valour, points out that society has a slipshod definition of the term “extremist” and says:
“The BNP certainly is extreme, because hate is intrinsic to its message. But our Government has active links with people who are more extreme. There are Islamist groups which support Hamas suicide bombings, the killing of homosexuals (Mr Griffin merely finds it “creepy” when they kiss in public) and the killing of British troops in Afghanistan. These groups engage with the state, and even get taxpayers’ money. The Government justifies this with the weird theory that it is only the hard men who can hold back the even harder men from violence. So the hard men get the leverage.
In Northern Ireland, Labour has set up a system which permits and pays Martin McGuinness to be Deputy First Minister. Mr McGuinness was for many years Chief of Staff of the IRA, planning its terrorist operations. He has dropped this occupation, but never renounced it. He has proved the favourite terrorist argument – well-calculated murder wins you power. When Martin goes on Question Time these days, there is no Griffin-style bashing, just the solemn nodding of panel heads when he explains how to bring peace to our troubled world.
On Thursday night, Jack Straw fiercely engaged Nick Griffin on the subject of Holocaust denial. But when he was Foreign Secretary, Mr Straw led the attempt to appease President Ahmadinejad of Iran, who denies the Holocaust on the global stage and is trying to build a nuclear bomb to wipe out Israel.
When establishment figures say that the attitudes of the BNP help prepare the ground for violence, they are right. But they do not apply this logic to their engagement with Islamism – the only form of extremism which nowadays kills large numbers of our fellow citizens.”
Charles then writes: “The second error shown by the Question Time panellists – and by virtually all political leaders in this country – is to ignore the problems that are winning the BNP votes. Exposing Holocaust denial is worth doing, but easy. The hard bit is the real resentment on which the BNP can capitalise.”
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If labour hadn’t flooded this Country with millions of immigrants the bnp proberbly wouldn’t exist.Now the cat is out of the bag how dare labour use the bnp as a scapegoat for a massive problem they have created.Through pure ignorance they won’t learn by their mistake and so the bnp will continue to grow whatever.
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“Simon Coates says:
October 26, 2009 at 10:59 am
If labour hadn’t flooded this Country……………”
As a member of the BNP I will say you are spot on, that bunch of anti democratic extremists have spawned what they see as a mirror image but they can only think how to shoot the messenger not listen to the message.
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If the indigenous populous knew the true cost of keeping the non indigenous residents of our country the BNP would be a serious contender in the next general election. More of Nick.
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Most curious that this tale surfaces only after QT goes to air !
Hmmmm…
The BNP is the ONLY party which has stated consistently what Mr.Neather has now “revealed”(quotation marks , as his comments appear to be more a subjective viewpoint than an incontrovertible fact).
I disagree with much of what is written on this website , but how jolly nice that we British can present opposing POV’s in polite fashion.
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no they wouldnt
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Yeah peter were shelling out loads “keeping” the darkies in their jobs as doctors/surgeons/premier league footballers/etc lol. Indigenous and illegal are two very different groups of people. thats what the BNP cant grasp.
Sam thankyou, it seems your the voice of reason now.lol
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yes they would people are fed up paying the highest taxes in europe while people come into this country and reap the benefits
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im quite sure we all know a english/scottish person who hasnt worked since christ left kilmarnock and who s conned the benefits system for years,work nor want theyre on every estate
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I am pleasantly surprised by the balanced reporting in this article. Yes Labour is indeed demonising the BNP but this the high of hipocrisy as Labour have killed hundreds of British service men and are “in bed” with some of the most vile Islamic extremists and terrorist governments around the world…really I wonder who is worse and it’s not easy to say.
I think the British political system needs an overhaul and that more centre-right and centre-left parties who are NOT politically correct and who hold the interests of the majority of people in the country to heart should be running things.
Labour and the Tories have helped create the BNP with their flawed immigration policies which failed to take into account the cultural impact of mass immigration because they are blinded by greed…immigration should be carefully considered, thoughtfully planned and strictly monitored to make sure the native people are not made to feel like they are being “taken over”…no wonder the BNP are getting votes. It’s tragic really.
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“Indigenous and illegal” is a concept I certainly grasp, I don’t get into the ridiculous arguments about Ashley Cole & the like.
You could argue that the recent flood of immigration since 2000 was “legal” I suppose but it should have had the blessing of the electorate.
Then that whole business of foreign doctors, why do we have to loot the 3rd world of theirs or was that part of LieBore’s way of getting as many immigrants into the country in the shortest space of time?
Never mind the countries that trained them at great expense.
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Sam
“im quite sure we all know a english/scottish person who hasnt worked since christ left…”
I can think of an English one now you mention of it, we always carry a certain amount of parasites but it is getting too much now.
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The Conservatives would have done the same in power… DID do the same in power… WILL do the same in power.
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Referendum on Europe anyone ? make mine a double with a proportional representation chaser.
Ashley Cole – Lucky Bastard is all i can say about him ! lol
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nice bird..horrid footie club
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Sam Pauli.
I totally agree about what you say about English and Scottish people claiming benefits for years,but when Tory and Labour govenments are quite happy to pay 100s of thousands of work shy people to do nothing do you blame them? This is part of the problem.Then the govenment tell use we need migrant workers to fill job vacancies!! Can you see whats going on here??
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SIMON , Scotland ,believe it or not is the only country on record ,whos population is declining,how do we fill jobs that the lazy ones dwill not do?
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The reason the BNP harp on about ethnicity is because every ethnic group in this country is allowed to form groups/clubs based purely on their ethnicity.Whites are the only ones who are not allowed to do this. They have had their traditions and culture stripped away from them. I believe that the straw man said something to the effect that the British are not worth saving.
Traditional work places have been taken away from us (vis Corby) and the workplace itself has, in many cases, become hostile and bullying. That is the main cause of the postal strike.
If you can’t work you take benefits to survive and this government wants as many people as possible to be dependent on the state.
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John Bull(shit) have you ever been to a golf club ,bowling club and i think youll fint that the Orange Order in Scotland is exclusively White,Unionist and Protestant….you need to get out of England occasionally and broaden the mind mlj
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sam pauli.
You make the lazy sods work.paying people so many benefits its not worth them working is an insult to everyone who can be bothered.
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MLJ said: ” I believe that the straw man said something to the effect that the British are not worth saving”.
Jack Straw’s exact words were: “the English are not worth saving as a race.”
Purest genocidal bile. And while he openly states it, all the establishment parties silently implement policies in full accord with the genocidal sentiment. That’s why I’d shift the ground from your point about every ethnic group in the country being encouraged to form exclusive clubs and to mobilise around their ethnic interests, correct though you are. More important is that all the major immigrant ethnic groups were given their own countries last century; and then promptly claimed ours as theirs, too.
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But also you don’t import people to sit around on benefits, especially ones that hate the host country & spend their time & efforts trying to overthrow it.
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“We might end up like New York – a dynamic, energetic and creative economic powerhouse.”
To be honest I think America will be very different within a few years, if the stories of dollar dumping & hyperinflation come to pass.
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I want to join one of these ethnic clubs because I’ve never been invited I’m upset. Fellist my friend you ought to cut off your nuts and join the w.I. if you’re that bothered. I’m glad people are free to form clubs that affirm their cultural heritage. As for claiming britain for their country what a load of rubbish. They like me simply integrate and become part of Britian. Not instantly of course but over time like the invaders from Europe they become assimilated
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“reasonable voice says:
October 26, 2009 at 1:17 pm
Referendum on Europe anyone ?”
Yes please & it would ensure the Conservatives a lot of votes but somehow I think they won’t do it.
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simon “make” people work..sounds a wee bit commie(you know the great evil)to me…so now we have a fascist communist policy now…its all getting very confusing…the bnp ,whos like them eh
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wtf your right again. America actually went bust halfay through bush’s first term. The did what brown calls “quantative easing” (printing money) only on the hush hush. they cant afford these wars they keep starting. thats the real problem. The house of cards will fall … lol and theyll blame the n*****r that you can count on ..
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Yes but we know who is really to blame!
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we do indeed, but their grip is strong and their influence runs globally through the politicians the judiciary the police etc its why we bailed the banks out. But oddly enough the new more regulated banking laws plays right into their hands.
you know what ive done since i got a job and my dad did the same. cause maggie(she and dennis are in) insisted we get paid into the bank instead of the brown paypacket my dad used to bring home, it gave the banks huge power. companies now charge you to pay by anything but dd to encourage you to leave it in there and use a card. money/pension/benefits go in …. next day pull the lot stick it under the mattress pay your bills over the counter. if we all did it itd be like a kick in the knackers for them. As a sidenote the post office closures are part of the same plan. No counter, then youll have to use their evil cards
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Get onto streets
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I’m sure that the BNP is just kept in the limelight to distract the British from UKIP….
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bnp are more likely to be found in the shadows rather than the limelight
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Sir Cliff s got a lot to answer for
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voice of reason said: “Not instantly of course but over time like the invaders from Europe they become assimilated”
Great promo work there VoR, natives and invaders from Europe who stayed here (some were repelled and some left of their own accord) became a single people after centuries of cultural and ethnic warfare including religious oppression, ethnic cleansing, slavery, mass murder and so on.
That’s how it happens.
I don’t see any reason to suppose it would happen any differently with the more distantly related and culturally alien invaders from outside Europe, in fact quite the opposite.
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Funny that people are now coming to realise that mass migration from the third world to Britain is detrimental. The BNP have facilitated this and despite the demonisation of the party, they will not win government. Their presence though, will ensure that this issue is taken seriously by the main parties.
A vote for the BNP will keep the bastards honest
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Yeah sam and i thing the BNP wouldnt like him because he’s a “Bachelor boy”
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i think the bnp will play “summer holiday” when the repatriation ships are leaving Dover…
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“reasonable voice says:
October 26, 2009 at 10:30 pm
“As a sidenote the post office closures are part of the same plan.”
Yes that really peed me off, perfectly good, purpose built Post Office buildings going to waste, standing empty, with the Post Office services shoe horned into WH Smiths.
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wtf as we know that the posties are on strike to try and stop job cuts within the service.what are the bnp s thought on striking workers?
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I don’t see a huge problem with multiculturalism personally. What’s wrong with allowing people who will contribute to our society the chance to settle here.
I’d rather a million immigrants from the Middle East in my city than the average, thick Brit who cannot be bothered to work and shuns education.
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Hello WTF Sam et al.
Yeah the destruction of fine civic buildings to be replaced with “monstrous carbuncles” as charlie said is a disgrace, or they turn them into wine bar/Bistro things. Its just leving people without a car isolated and decimating rural communities. Similar thing with these “Edge of town” shopping centres they just mean you go and sit in a traffic jam on the weekend as the central store is closed and is replaced by a discount bookstore or a bloody pound shop. If your business is service based like a newsagent or cafe and you cant move your screwed. My town centre is a ghost town at least 25% of shops are empty.So much for a nation of shopkeepers.
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Fellist in response to your point about years of war etc before the european tribes were integrated, I dont think thats relevant these days as we are a little less superstitious/Medeival/insular in modern times. The greatest difference between you and i and say someone from sub-saharan africa is which microsoft operating system were using or what type of mobile phone we use. we have far more in common than we ever had and thats why it only takes a generation. My father was born in India as one of those poor people who live on the streets. One generation later and im a well educated professional as are my siblings. My children are mixed so you only notice the difference as theyre in summer as they tan easily and assuming they marry white people their children will be indistinguishable from you. Bingo 3 generations and culturally and visibly integrated. Only the name remains in the male line so thats bound to just be a quirk like say Ricky Gervais is not french but of french stock but English nevertheless.
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RV, all that you say will have been true for individual Angles and Danes. No-one bothers to dispute that the descendants of an occasional individual can assimilate into another ethnic group over a few generations because we’re talking here about millions of people, not one or two, your case is irrelevant. Your use of it to promote a generalised English opening-up to others is dishonest propaganda.
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“WTF? says:
October 27, 2009 at 8:53 pm”
Why can’t this fake choose a more imaginative name if you want to take the opposite tack, how about “Anti-WTF”?
“I don’t see a huge problem with multiculturalism personally. What’s wrong with allowing people who will contribute to our society the chance to settle here.”
Well I do when it is done on a mass scale by people who hate this culture, why come here?
“I’d rather a million immigrants from the Middle East in my city than the average, thick Brit who cannot be bothered to work and shuns education.”
Stupidity & stereotyping in one sentence, brilliant.
“Your” city wouldn’t be able to cope with a million of anything descending on it.
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Sam
“wtf as we know that the posties are on strike to try and stop job cuts within the service.what are the bnp s thought on striking workers?”
Well I guess official BNP policy is not too favourable towards the normal unions as they have a ban on BNP membership.
But I think there is a deliberate policy to destroy the Royal Mail but I don’t blame the workers for that.
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“Kurt says:
October 26, 2009 at 11:23 pm
I’m sure that the BNP is just kept in the limelight to distract the British from UKIP….”
I thought it was the other way around especially during the Euro election campaign.
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Of course you’re right and Kurt wrong, WRF. If Kurt’s claim were true the MSM and establishment parties would promote the idea that the differences between the BNP and UKIP, principally economic and ethnic nationalism tell in the BNP’s favour; they pound into us the opposite idea.
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UKIP ? is that the United Kingdom Islamist Party?
so have they dented your membership at all (im pro Europe so never bothered looking into them)
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wtf whats the difference between “the normal unions” and “abnormal unions” my heads beginning to hurt,i suppose the bnp and edl could be seen as an abnormal union(of fascists)
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Maybe I should refer to “normal” unions as abnormal as they give large sums of money to a Labour government that doesn’t give a damn about the union members.
The BNP have their own union “Solidarity” but you knew that anyway.
UKIP are just a safety valve to vent public frustration.
So RV is all for the suffocating corrupt EU superstate?
I am not.
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Me i dont mind it !
it has good points and bad points. Ive just discovered that we recieve 6.5billion euros from the Euro kitty. Now was some pro bnp guy going on about us paying out ! lol as usual pie in the sky economics because we paid the 4.7 billion pounds and got 6.5 billion euros. Now the rates have more or less equalised its a good deal lets adopt the euro tout de suite. the thing with the referendum is weve been bombarded with anti european news about bent bananas etc for so long the average thick as shit sun reader will vote no without even giving the matter the consideration it deserves. They are so guillable they think the human rights act is a bad thing!!
hahaha the bnp union is named after the polish workers union (and now president of poland if im not mistaken)
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Solidarnosc-Lech Walesa—
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“hahaha the bnp union is named after the polish workers union”
Like the Spitfire, they knew that the union was based on the idea of the Polish one & its role in the fall of Communism.
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wtf ill accept the solidarity bit.
but the spitfire was a pr gaffe . No-one really would have realised it was one of the polish ones unless they understood the markings on the side… i think it was picked up by someone in the raf and then it came out into the public domain
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Maybe they liked the Spitfire so much that they went the whole hog & borrowed the union idea as well?
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Nah you wouldnt get a bnp guy in a spitfire he’d be in a messerschmitt and i dont mean the bubble car either.
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Well Nick Griffin’s Father was sort of in a Spitfire (fixing the radio’s) & a relative of mine died in one.
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was he tuning them in to lord haw-haw?
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A lot better than being a cowardly conchie like Straw’s father.
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Sam
“was he tuning them in to lord haw-haw?”
Haha that’s actually quite funny but no!
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good
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I dont hold any hatred for “conchie” on a post on how Nick Griffin is worthy of respect one of you bnp supporters say he is brave for standing up aginst the common opinion. I think everyone has the right to stand by their beliefs and chose not to fight. If you look at the current campaigns, if conscription forms landed on the dormat. you would find a whole generation of Brits telling them to stick their OIL and GAS wars up their arse. In fact they might as well print them on Andrex because you wont get whole streets of “PALS” or all the men from a single family going to fight….. Doesnt make them cowards though does it.
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Maybe we prefer to fight Germans than Moslems?
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hello, welcome to our game gold website
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sammi, we can see your true colours now, you are a famine lover, you love the sound of funereal music played to the tune of ira,(farc) pseudo irish flag waving. you hate the whites, israelis,prods, british ethos,you love crying in your drink about how you have been treated by the orangie golf club golf brethren.perhaps you have been sexually abused, if so, go and report to the roberts, you have a syndrome that looks similar to roger syndrome.
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