Times: Two polls show no significant Question Time bounce for BNP
In today’s Times there is a report on two polls taken since QT. The report reveals how data shows there is no evidence of any BNP bounce since last weeks media circus.
The report contradicts the weekend’s story in the News of the World which carried a YouGov poll saying that 22% of people would “seriously consider” voting BNP (although those who said they were certain to vote BNP had dropped from 6% to 4%).
Either way, Nothing British believes it is too early to tell whether Nick Griffin’s appearance on QT has helped or hindered his party’s chances at the 2010 General Election.
Daily Telegraph: Immigrant crime fear airbrushed from Government report
The Daily Telegraph are reporting that a 2001 Home Office report removed warnings of links between mass immigration and crime amid fears they would be used by critics.
After the revelation by Andrew Neather, a key advisor to Tony Blair, that the Government conspired to allow mass migration, doesn’t one get the feeling that the Government has been pulling the wool over people’s eyes for too long?
BNP Establishes Media Rebuttal Unit to Combat Lies
According to the BNP website, Councillor Paul Golding, the BNP’s man in charge of their Afghanistan”Bring them Back” campaign, has been put in charge of its “Media Rebuttal Unit”.
The BNP believes The Times report from yesterday, which claimed their is a split in the party after NG’s QT appearance, and The Sun’s report that the BNP’s Trafalgar Club failed to raise £250,000 had breach reporting rules.
Golding, who is a councillor in Sevenoaks, was recently accused by a council spokesman of not joining any council committees and local residents had complained he had not been in touch with them since his election or championed their concerns to the council.
The party has asked both papers to retract their stories and has submitted a complaint to the Press Complaints Commission.
whatever the poll truly represents, there is a considerable groundswell of support for a stop to unrestricted mass migration from the third world to Britain. Only the emergence of the BNP has brought this about.
Vote BNP… and keep the bastards honest
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vote anyone BUT the bnp
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i’m going to come over there, tear off your head and stick it in yer sporrin
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do you think?when all is said and done the fascist will always resort to his last bastion of the patriot…..violence
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Balderdash Nefarious Pathetic
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aussie try wining and dining the old girl before having your wicked way with her….be as gentle as a LAMB,before RAMming her…its not all about EWE.
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but be careful dont let her pull the WOOL over your eyes,she maybe old and a wee bit MUTTON jeff,but be strong ,SHEAR perseverance will win the day
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Sam
“when all is said and done the fascist will always resort to his last bastion of the patriot…..violence”
Well that is better than it being the first resort?
It should always be the last resort.
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We all know what the UAF’s first port of call is….violence.
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All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him. Sun Tzu c500-320bc.
my advice. if negotiation isnt an option, make sure the fucker has his next meal from a tube in his nose. lol
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Ah yes, “The Art of War” still a usable classic.
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Still relevant after all these years wtf. still studied at sandhurst ive heard.
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Vote BNP!
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there is a sam that makes sense
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thanks aussie didnt know you cared,
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Hamilton,Scotland 28 th Oct 2009 Griffin flees Scotland after being heckled and pelted with eggs whilst in Scotland on the campaign trail with Glasgow North Nazi Charlie Baillie. Griffin learn to accept you and the bnp arent wanted here
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Smash the BNP—-No Pasaran
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Sam
if you are so enamoured with sheep, you should move to New Zealand
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Baa humbug,
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are you anti maori as well?
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i think the kiwis are a little kinder to their hosts than the aussies arent they
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maoris are bigger than abos, and much more adept at changing to a modern lifestyle.
But the Maoris killed all their predecessors, the moriori, and the last were wiped out in the Chatham islands in the 1830s. When, most maori were still cannibals.
As to the question of hosts, does this mean RV that you recognise the anglo saxons as the hosts in England?
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and the aussies are only lodgers in austrailia?
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so you do recognise the concept of prior ownership then. If we are lodgers in Australia, then non white people, residing in Britain, are lodgers too.
that is your own logic Sam, which maybe i agree with, as i recognise that the abos were the original people of Australia. Just that they could not defend their patch.
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Morning Al. Yeah of course i recognise that the English are hosts. I dont claim to be An ancient Briton or a celt or anything.lol. But i am English, in the same way you arent and Aborigine but your an Australian and the same way and American can originate from any one of about 20 countries but still be an American. You see the funny thing is If you look at say the kennedys and their irish heritage, No-one ever questioned their entitlement to be presidents because theyre white. Yet Barack Obama always faces this bullshit he was born in kenya or he isnt really an American, his daddy was malcolm x, He’s a Muslim etc. It is glaringly obvious its a white thing. People always rattle on about immigration when its dark faces arriving. For years immigration was closed from the subcontinent(or at least very difficult) at the same time the doors were open for white people, this at the same time S africa had sanctions imposed because of apartheid??
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OK RV
Lets turn this around surely when African or Asian countries had loads of whites invade them they weren’t happy about it & on the whole slung them out & gained independence?
I see the point about America or Australia, the indigenous people were overwhelmed by numbers & technology but they survive in varying degrees & I would agree what was done wasn’t pleasent.
But hopefully the original cultures will survive.
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WTF, that is a point he resolutely avoids addressing.
“People always rattle on about immigration when its dark faces arriving” — once again refusing to engage the point that it was African and Asian peoples who booted out Whites, not the reverse as seems to have happened in his fantasy inverted world.
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RV
when i was in India last year at the time Obama won the election, the newspapers were full of the fact it was and end to white domination, and the beginning of the rise of the brown and yellow men (their words, not mine).
The diaspora, of which you are obviously a part, is seen in some quarters as the end of western civilisation and as a creeping colonisation by a numerically superior peoples.
With this in mind, can you not see why we whites are worried. Especially when overt racism is entrenched in India, China etc… and those countries are not encumbered by political correctness.
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Al dont worry my friend we are all gods children.
Its not an end to white domination in America its gone from “im not racist ive got black friends/servants” to Im not racist ive got a black president.. lol
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Fellist! who kicked who out of anywhere if we are talking about india then the mechanisms of government were replaced, not individuals. plenty of whites stayed behind and live there to this day. Africa if you mean south africa then most of the whites fled when the power was returned to the people who were entitled to it and equal amounts stayed and live there to this day. The only place i guess is Rhodesia/Zimbabwe where frankly mugabe is a nut. But still hundreds of uk companies have investments and interests in the country.
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The end of western civilisation is when you cease to behave in a civilised way.
Notably the election of a party like the BNP. Which thankfully is never going to happen
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If you know anything about the partition youll know they infact kicked more dark faces accross the new border than they did white. from both sides of the line whilst the british army left unmolested.. Learn a bit obout history and the truth becomes clearer
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the real truth dosent make good reading to the racist
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RV
you are disingenuous and factually sloppy
….the french in algeria , the french in vietnam, the british in kenya, the british in malaya, the dutch in indonesia, the portugese in angola, british settlers in rhodesia….the list goes on. All encountered violent resistance to their attempts at colonisation. The west is being colonised from the third world, even if it is called immigration, and the west does not meet this colonisation with violence….we have to eat a shit sandwich and accept it, no questions will be permitted and if you dare question it then you must be a fucking racist.
kind of double standards really
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did you say double aussie…i ll have a whisky
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done an awful lot of colonising you white folk havent you . lol.
So what next Al ? armed resistance ? immigration and colonisation are very different things. No-one has arrived here and imposed rule similar to say the british in Kenya …are there any Mau Mau type atrocities being committed in Britain.Is anyone imposing there language on you like say the french in Algeria? So by citing the french / dutch / etc youve simply drawn it along colour lines again. Still not a racist if you want to justify your own racism by saying i am then feel free … dosent mean its true of course!
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make mine a bombay sapphire with gordons and a slice of lime
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RV
you are being hypocritical. Colonisation is defined as large groups of same moving en masse to another area – this is happening now, with large scale immigration from the third world to the developed world. Uncontrolled mass migration is ameliorated way of saying colonisation.
as to atrocities being commited, look no further than the bombings in London, madrid, paris etc..
as to imposition of language, look no further than the ghettoisation of certain towns in england and france. The migrants have no wish to lose their cultural identity and in extreme cases want to impose sharia law for example.
Now, i am sure that you are a shining example of cultural relocation, but that does not alter the fact that in the overwhelming number of examples of colonisation by stealth, the experience for the invaded peoples has been a negative one.
People are pissed off because they are not allowed to have a say over the future direction of their own countries. Dont you understand that?
For you to imply the impression of ” well fuck it i’m here now and there is nothing you can do”, only insenses more people, understand that. How would you like it if your culture was quickly being eroded and you had to sit back and watch it happen…without violent resistance.
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In no particular order…
The bombings in London, Bali, Madrid although tragic dont compare to the bombings in Basra ,Baghdad, Fallujah, Kabul, Kandahar etc etc etc they carried a few kilos of shit they mixed in a bath does that compare to 500kg of purpose designed being dropped from a Tornado ?
Its Ironic that its on the slide rule of newsworthyness again. Wednesday in peshawar pakistan they set off a carbomb in a bazaar full of women and children 90 killed. theyve suffered more terrorist attcks than the rest of the world put together and multiplied twice thrice etc. And thats cause theyre on the receiving end of our foreign policies.
Bit threatening with the violent resistance bit there but otherwise i agree the Islamic enclaves will dissapear in time thanks to social mobilty they dont stay in the “ghettoes” long. I encountered a man who said its fine when they stay in their areas but they have the cheek to come and buy big houses… hahaha my asian property developer mate bought the house next door when i told him.
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english culture…drive my japanese car to that irish theme pub in town ,where i enjoy a few bottles of german lager,go to chinese/indian reteraunt for my dinner,where we sink a few bottles of french wine,whilst making a fool of waiter,then onto greek owned nightclub,where we listen to black/hip hop music,fall inebriated into street where we kick and punch the shit out of other english chaps,into turkish kebab shop ,a few jokes about skewers,hail a cab to take me home to my finnish pre fabricated house,fall pissed onto my italien leather sofa,while planting my size 10 s onto my swedish coffee table,click my korean 42 inch tv to on ,and sit and watch my american macho man movies,aahh dear old england,no time for all that foreign muck
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Al look the shariah law lot are maybe vocal but they are very few(Just like the Fellists of this world) The Madrid/London/Bali/Paris(did they get bombed Zut Alors) bombings which you are using as a crutch to support your anti immigration stance happened as a direct result of the Iraq invasion. Prior to the Iraq war how many islamic terrorist attacks happened in the uk? Lockerbie oh yeah but that was a Libyan attack on an american plane that couldve fallen out of the sky anywhere. Iranian Embassy seige? Not quite the same really as it was an attack on Iranian soil technically and wasnt aimed at us. The shooting of WPC Yvonne Fletcher ? perhaps. Ok so dont fall into the “oooh the nasty muslims are gonna get us” trap the BNP have laid. The man in the newsagent isnt planning a bombing campaign he’s working out the paper rounds.
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Onto the Ghettos you discussed. Yes i concede muslims live in large groups in run down areas in the midlands. The reason this happens is because when they arrived to work in the foundries and textile mills they couldnt afford cars to drive to the sub minimum wage shit job they had, so they ended up living in terraced houses surrounding the works. Social mobility now has taken the children and grandchildren of these workers into the suburbs and in some cases onto the palatial new build houses on the best private estates. And as each generation betters itself theyll spread and integrate, these were the same shit houses that the Irish immigrants lived in during the industrial revolution and thats the way itll continue the lowest social strata occupying the cheapest housing stock.
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RV
“No-one has arrived here and imposed rule similar to say the british in Kenya …are there any Mau Mau type atrocities being committed in Britain.”
There have been plenty of atrocities committed & certain people are trying to impose rules on us & our own government colludes in this.
In some places especially in London or any immigrant enclave you won’t hear English spoken.
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“Sam Pauli says:
October 30, 2009 at 2:23 pm
english culture…drive my japanese car to that irish theme pub in town…..”
Yes I have seen that before, trying to prove the English are hypocrites, I have nothing against trade & I blame our government for the fact it is so difficult to buy stuff made here, that our manufacturing has gone.
Both mass immigration & globalisation have been forced upon us, it is a double edged sword cutting both ways.
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Maybe we should have done what Moslem countries do & allowed the mill workers in on work permits & when the work dried up, they should have gone home.
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RV
“For you to imply the impression of ” well fuck it i’m here now and there is nothing you can do”, only insenses more people, understand that. How would you like it if your culture was quickly being eroded and you had to sit back and watch it happen…without violent resistance.”
Eventually it will be what you hold dear being trashed as unimportant & it won’t be the BNP doing it.
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Is there any need for profanities? So much for moderation!
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Acorn
It was in the quote.
I usually avoid it in print, depends on the context though.
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Fair enough WTF. I agreed with your post.
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Aaaah what would our language be with out profanity.. but thats a whole new debate. WTF i agree entirely there is no excuse for anyone who can speak english not speaking it in England. Im certainly not saying im here now and theres nothing you can do, but being realistic its probably the case. Im more saying im here now i love the place can i be included please im not a sponger or an antagonist. I know we need to have an adult debate about immigration but Fellist with his “GET BACK TO YER OWN COUNTRY” is typical behaviour of the BNP supporter and its just stupid considering where we are as compared to 50 yrs ago. And as for what i hold dear being trashed then if youd read through my posts youll notice its the same things you hold dear
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My view on immigration has always been a quid pro quo thing, if a country allows us to go there to visit, work or live then we can allow similar numbers to come here in the same fashion.
But world population growth means a never ending demand of movement to the best countries, that will destroy the golden goose.
I understand about the reasons for large families in 3rd world countries but it is a failed model.
If a person breeds in the full knowledge that most of the kids will die, why should I get misty eyed & sentimental about it?
If we feed the kids & they mainly survive then they must alter their behaviour & not expect us to keep feeding a rapidly growing population that is unsustainable in their own land & they can’t come here in any large numbers.
Also I don’t accept the idea of asylum seekers who come across many safe countries to come here, they are economic migrants.
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RV
i accept that you are a pom and sound like an upright, sensible one at that. But skin colour aside, do you think that there has been too much immigration to Britain over the last few decades?
is it now time to place restrictions and caps on the numbers entering before the situation really gets out of hand?
i would be interested in a non-pc answer
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Let the People in,their stories and their songs ,and the music of their native lands,
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how many people exactly?
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I don’t know if my previous comment is readable or in moderation but I believe in a like for like basis with countries on the subject of visas & immigration.
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Also Jonathon Porrit a Green advisor to the Labour government has said that 30 million people is the sustainable amount for the UK, compared to 71+ million in 2018.
How would that be achieved?
Mass executions or make the country into a hell hole so everybody that can leaves?
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There has been an increased effort since QT to denigrate the BNP, and by association their supporters, who are frequently described as knuckledraggers or scum. This may be having an effect on those polled.
At a time when positivity is stressed in every field, accuracy must suffer. A poll asking people where they would place themselves in ugly/average/beautiful or stupid/average/intelligent would provide a measure of the bias, enabling the political poll to be corrected.
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Well of course we are all beautiful & intelligent including Sam?
That’s why we are here.
I think every trick in the book will be wheeled out to fight the BNP, they’ll be linked however tenuously to anything negative going.
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Anyone read Arthur Miller’s Crucible?
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No, something about witch trials?
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Yes, but it’s really about a period of political persecution during the 1950s in America.It was led by US senator Joe McCarthy and basically it was a witch hunt against communists or communist sympathisers. We now have a marxist government hounding another political party (with all the baying liberal establishment joining them in the pursuit). Andrew Neil (who thought he was on the side of the Gods) will now know exactly what a witch hunt is.Chocolate Hobnob indeed!
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Hello all
Yep Aussie Al i do think we have porus border which for an island state just illustrates the inept nature of our policymakers(or something more sinister according to something i read in the telegraph) I have the same concerns as you when it comes to immigration. Ive noticed something that not many people touch on .. when you look at say the start of what became the holocaust Jews in europe realised something was afoot so what did they do, they sent their children to safety (read about the english schindler) If we look to our own history when the luftwaffe were flattening whole cities in the south what did people do?, they sent their children to safety in rural areas in the north away from the bombs. I know if god forbid i was in the same position i would go to the gas chambers or face the bomb with a little peace in my heart knowing my children were safe. We dont see people sending their kids or wives to safety we see men of working age making their way to Britain bypassing several safe nations to get here. Simply… they are economic migrants and need to be stopped at the first safe country. But equally i dont want them sat in a libyan prison or washing up dead on a beach in europe. i dont think its been uncontrolled for that long i think it started with new labour. We need sustainable immigration for skills we need. We need to provide a safe haven for real people seeking asylum but spread equally accross EU states.
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maybe the west should pay more money to the source countries of these migrants,; pay them to stay where they are. It might be cheaper in the long run.
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i think britain pay money for folk to go home,then they come back ,get money to go home,all rather amusing
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dont you sleep in on sunday mornings Sam? you obviously werent down the boozer last night… unless you have just got home
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24 hour drinking here al…..hic!
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you are probably getting the sunday roast ready
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thats it,keep the missus sweet
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Sam’s been trick or treating all night but he didn’t want sweeties……….
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“Voice of reason says:
October 31, 2009 at 10:18 pm
Hello all
Yep Aussie Al i do think we have porus border…………”
Also we have loads of lawyers running this country but the law doesn’t seem to work & is full of loopholes, maybe it is just work & wealth creation for their mates, we know how self serving this lot are.
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yes i went out disguised as an arrogant ,self righteous,whinging rat arsed after 2 pints pain in the cheeks,but all the pubs said “get out,no english allowed in here”
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Racism alive & well in Scotland then?
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yes i think we invented it
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Sam Pauli says:
October 28, 2009 at 2:37 pm
do you think?when all is said and done the fascist will always resort to his last bastion of the patriot…..violence.
Unlike the anti-nazi-nazis of ANaL and UAF Sam? ;o)
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RV:’People always rattle on about immigration when its dark faces arriving.’
Perhaps you should ask the people of Zimbabwe whether or not they were better off under the Smith regime.
They are now starving under the benevolent dictatorship of Mugabe … but at least they’re free from white tyranny aren’t they?
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Zimbabwe went from no vote but food to a vote but no food!
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Well unless you vote Mugabe I guess?
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