Peter Hitchens in the Daily Mail: Griffin, the BBC and the birth of a ’stab in the back’ myth http://bit.ly/2pM5J9.
PoliticsHome: Consensus view on Question Time: Warsi shone, but BNP benefited* http://bit.ly/wTvLd
MELANIE PHILLIPS: The outrageous truth slips out: Labour plotted to transform make-up of Britain without telling us http://bit.ly/q8DGW
Sir Andrew Green: Mass immigration deliberate Labour policy http://bit.ly/2T3EJw
Spectator – Still no room for complacency about the BNP http://bit.ly/OJRfg
Melanie Phillips – Trying to stuff the cat back into the bag – Is Andrew Neather backtracking? http://bit.ly/178p3J
Tags: BNP, immigration
As much as I don’t care for Peter Hitchens, he makes a point I was going to keep quiet on & that is the Conservatives & probably everyone else will be in trouble, if Nick Grifffin says “I have done my bit to get the BNP to a certain stage & now I will allow someone else to carry the torch (or banner/flag) forward” & that person is telegenic like David Duke but without the baggage of past comments, that may or may not have been said.
Especially if it was a woman, somebody has been suggested but I feel fairly certain that as Nick has got this far, he probably feels he can go further & have a career as an elected MEP or MP.
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carry the torch……or the burning cross ,maybe griffin could star in the british version of the simpsons playing homer…but they couldnt be yellow must be white
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it appears to me that “nothingbritish” are exploiting the military and military personelle, in their ongoing campaign to get the Torys elected at the expense of the BNP
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arent the bnp exploting the military then…..there was no bnp outrage at the time of the invasions..the silence was deafening…why?
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maybe they are only now drawing the attention of the media, most of which was fairly compliant to the invasions of iraq and afganistan.
these military excursions have proved to be a futile effort, as the local populations seem only to respect military strongmen and will never understand the concept of democracy as we do. Our soldiers blood is not worth spilling for them.
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“Sam Pauli says:
October 27, 2009 at 9:55 am
arent the bnp exploting the military then…..there was no bnp outrage at the time of the invasions..the silence was deafening…why?”
Have to admit Sam I can’t answer that one, my attention was elsewhere at the time but I did go & foto the big anti war demo before Iraq was invaded in 2004, I think that’s when it was, the demo I mean.
I was not a member of the BNP at that time.
I was very unsure about the invasion at the time & rapidly became anti it soon after, when I saw what a mess they had made of things.
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“……..these military excursions have proved to be a futile effort, as the local populations seem only to respect military strongmen and will never understand the concept of democracy as we do. Our soldiers blood is not worth spilling for them.”
Agreed it is a waste of our time, a simple read of a history book shows they don’t change & don’t want to.
It is like how many Psychoanalysts does it take to change a light bulb?
One, but the light bulb has to really want to change.
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Our soldiers blood isnt worth spilling for them… Their blood isnt worth spilling for our financial/political gain. Nearly 100 000 Iraqis died in this war and that excludes those killed by sanctions and those who are gonna die of all the spent Uranium we dumped on them. Can you imagine if 100 000 coffins came home to Brize Norton draped in the union jack? thats what they suffered.
Mesopatamia was the cradle of civilisation and we went to go and civilise them?
because a leader we supported and armed decided he wasnt gonna be a puppet anymore. Oh but he gassed them kurds(with our gas) He killed millions of Iranians too but we wanted them dead so thats ok. He had Weapons of Mass destruction (we sold them to him)
Democracy! what democracy do we wanna export to them when our leaders are as corrupt as theirs(just the suits are a bit nicer)
rant over lol
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they “were” the cradle of civilization… 8000 years ago, but since domesticating wild grasses, that region’s contribution to world advancement has been minimal. I do acknowledge the contribution to medicine made around the time of the crusades, but basically the entire moslem world has been hamstrung by an adherence to a pretty moronic and backward religion, that remains an intolerant, bigoted set of principals.
As for the iraq/iran war… well that was pretty much a fight over regional control with a bit of religious schism thrown in for good measure, and mate, that resulted in over 2 million deaths which the lefties do not get up in arms over!
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I wonder where the WMD went though, somebody has them or they’re with the Ark of the Covenant in that American warehouse as shown in “Raider’s of the lost Ark”.
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they destroyed them .the report at the end of the 1st gulf was read loudly by powell (Colin not Enoch lol) that all of Iraqs chemical/bio weapons capacity had been destroyed and its ability to pose a threat to its neighbours was virtually nil. lol wooo go USA etc etc. That little clip bit them on the arse nearly as hard as the picture of rumsfeld and saddam shaking hands did
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Right, so they lied at the beginning of the 2nd Iraq war & Blair must have known that too or maybe he was having a senior moment?
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We both know who runs these things. Sofa style government they called it”come on george have a cuppa and lets chat about who you want us to invade”
son of a bitch is going for the presidency, he should really be in the Hague.
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what about the role of the jewish lobby and the entrenched zionists in the US/UK, who only really care about the expansion of Israel. Not Britain or USA, but Israel, that shitty little country that they do not live in, but which has them beholden due to their clanish religion.
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Careful Al !!you’ll win a lot of muslim support with that statement.
Me i Love jews, Hate Israel. They shot that English reporter Tom while he was wearing a high vis vest saying t.v. Ive seen the film and i heard him scream(I was under the impression a dead shot dosent hurt cos your dead-sadly not true) But then theyve been shooting rock throwing kids in the head for years.
I saw a film of a Palestinian and his dad caught in a firefight and the poor man is lying down covering as much of his son as he can with his own body flailing and begging them to stop firing so he can get out of the way… They killed the kid and dad got to walk away with that to haunt him for the rest of his life.
And then Israelis wonder why they wanna blow themselves to pieces on their buses!!
As ever lets not dwell on the c”"ts of this world and remember the Good. Gideon Levi who writes for haaretz and the good people of Bt’Selem.
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reasonable voice
i have long held the opinion that one of the major factors driving moslem hatred of the west, has been the west’s slavish appeasement of the jewish lobby in regard to Israel. But equally, i find islam to be a backward religion; rooted in the dark ages, whose adherents have no love nor place in western countries.
Basically the third world should stay where they live and Israel can go fuck itself!
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Youve a good grasp of the subject. Nail on the head is about right.
All religions are backward .. and the big 3 are from the east. We can accept 1 and make it our own, but the rest we cant is my only arguement against your point. Islam in its rennaisance brought emancipation to many. They brought great leaps forward in medicine the sciences maths astronomy etc but they have stagnated. During the peak if you brought a book to mecca on your pilgramage and they didnt have it you would be given the books weight in gold as a reward and it would be digested and translated to arabic. In recent times theyre more inclined to burn books they find offensive. Shame really.
Ill watch your posts with interest.
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reasonable voice says:
October 27, 2009 at 12:39 pm
“son of a bitch is going for the presidency, he should really be in the Hague.”
I”ll vote for that!
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I side with AussieAl broadly on the Islam thing.
But I think if they are in the Dark or Middle ages, then I assume eventually there would be a Renaissance or an enlightenment but that could still be 200 years away?
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If America goes bust then Israel might be minus a sponser?
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Hitchens suffers from a surfeit of earnestness, Philips from a surfeit of bile, Sir Andrew from a surfeit of conscientiousness, and poor Fraser’s head has so expanded since he became editor of the Spectator that nothing fits any more.
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reasonable voice said: “I saw a film of a Palestinian and his dad caught in a firefight and the poor man is lying down covering as much of his son as he can with his own body flailing and begging them to stop firing so he can get out of the way…”
The boy was Mohammed al Durrah.
You’ve heard of him, RV, but thanks to Rupert Murdoch, one of Israel’s enforcers over the establishment parties, few Brits have. I think it’s disgusting, but to overturn that kind of bias it makes sense to start locally. Are you sure you don’t reflexively try and prevent that, RV?
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as far as i can see a british soldiers life is worth about 5,000 iraqis..oh dear and we still dont know why they hate the west,we re only trying to americanise them and give them christianity…ingrates
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I remember years ago (before PC politics) being told in Fleet St that there was a slide rule of newsworthyness which equated 1 dead Englishman = 10 dead Frogs = 100 dead wogs.
I think most media probably still operate a similar thing of what is relevant to its consumers.
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very very true,….breaking news 500,000 dead in chinese earthquake ,but its not all bad ,no brits are among the dead!thats your point wtf
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Yes you notice if they can find a tourist amongst all the dead, they’ll focus on them to make it relevant to the home audience as though the story can’t stand on its own.
It was the same with Mexican Swine Flu, 200 died in Mexico but our media picked it up when you had that couple flying back to Scotland into an isolation ward, though we still don’t what happened to the other 2 sick men on the flight but I guess they weren’t British!
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i suppose its like the old when english fans misbehave while on tour they re british,but when the are behaving themselves they re english,or andy murray is british when he wins and scottish when he loses
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Hahahaha i got a text a while back .. Amir Khan walked into the ring, Englands pride , Olympic silver medalist , world title hopeful. Got knocked out and walked out a Paki. similar thing to mr Murray.
Love the fleet street slide rule of newsworthyness wtf.
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Reasonable voice said
“Love the fleet street slide rule of newsworthyness wtf.”
I don’t know if they would admit to it now though!
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Thankyou Fellist for the boys name i arent gonna look for the clip though im sure its out there somewhere. my own son is about that age and it stayed with me since i saw it so im choosing to block it out. Yeah the media i get my news from multiple sources and frankly the truth should always be told. Ive been on migrationwatch so i know a lot of what you say has a lot of truth in it. I dont try and stifle it on reflex. Ill tell you the truth i have a greater insight into the ideas and motivations of bnp voters and there are lots who arent racist. Nice cogs in a nasty machine. I felt saddened by how mlj feels he has been robbed of all he held precious its bugged me a bit all day really. I couldnt dream of empathising with someone with his opinions even a week ago (i would have more likely wanted to leave him bleeding on the floor) Im sure to a degree even through our verbal jousting you have realise we have a great deal in common
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RV, you post here to argue that England doesn’t belong to the English – who don’t exist as an ethnic group anyway. I’m here to combat that kind of racism and pro-race-replacement propaganda. We have nowt in common.
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: who you claim don’t exist as an ethnic group anyway
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if only
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Fellist im not here to arge anything of the sort. England does belong to the English. It just happens that the English are Myriad of colours. Modern England belongs to all who feel in their hearts a loyalty to England. We have loads in common we are both English for starters
P.S. Im heaping burning coals on your head lol
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i tale it thats me bombed out(pardon the pun)
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England,do you really think its over,if you do youre going to have to deport us all,until you take the bnp out of politics,their blood will stain the pavements of Whitehall
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reasonable voice
an anglo saxon HAS the right to call himself an Englishman; that right is born in history and the struggles WE have fought in the last 1600 years.
If you truly believe in multi-culturalism, then you should recognise the right of anglo saxons to be the ONLY true Englishmen.
Crikey, if i was born in India, do you really reackon the Hindus would judge me to be an Indian?
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Fellist
i agree with your sentiment. It is racist in the extreme to say that white anglo saxons(me) are not a true ethnic group. We are copping it here now, as they (lefty do-gooding types) now say we are not true distinct Aussies; and now we can’t even call ourselves feral, displaced poms!
Until 1973, we had the white Australia policy, and we knew who we were! We are brow-beaten nowadays, but proper Aussies still know who we are!
…feral poms, who beat you blokes at cricket, rugby etc.. but anglo saxons nonetheless
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when you think Australian, do you envisage a bloke yodelling with a block of jarlsberg in one hand and a glass of ouzo in the other… or do you see a glass of cold, cold beer in one hand and a cricket bat in the other.
We too have a national identity that is being subsumed by mass migration from the third world.. and we are not fucking happy.
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aussie its the poms who are meant to constantly whinge
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It’s disgusting isn’t it, AA? The more RV posts here the more he reveals his hostility to us, even as he says we don’t exist.
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yes the bnp ARE disgusting auld nick got chased out of caledonia yesterday with his forked tail between his legs…fantastic
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Im not hostile to anyone. Ive had some good chats with Aussie Al and WTF of course you exist Fellist is a bit hard line for my liking but hey ho, theres nowt as queer as folk. Yeah the reason i couldnt get the demographic statistics for India is if you have indian citenship your an indian. simple as that. they can give you religious figures of course as thats where the lines are drawn.
All my friends read these posts and frankly my white mates are pissing themselves at your suggestions of me being a racist. I speak with a broad regional accent etc my asian friends call me coconut (brown on the outside white on the inside lol) But please beacuse you guys have your little racial axe to grind dont tar me with the same brush, my complexion is dark enough(though i wouldnt mind being black for the extra muscle mass)
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and of course better on the dance floor!
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im a dad now !!! I do dad dancing ! lol proper embarassing stuff.
Al ……heres the bad news. WE WON THE ASHES…. and we are going to retain them. We are gonna see you off at the 2012 olympics too.
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Greens are often called Watermelons by the Right as they are green on the outside but red inside.
As in Jonathon Porrit’s suggestion to the government that 30 million is the sustainable amount for the UK population.
How would that be achieved?
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The same way they keep the unemployment and crime figures down…..
you fiddle the statistics.
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didnt auld nicks pal get caught fiddling….and it wasnt with the statistics
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RV said “Fellist is a bit hard line for my liking but hey ho”
All lines are hard, RV, or they aren’t lines. That’s the nub of our disagreement: I am arguing for the non-negotiability of a people’s right to discriminate in its favour on the grounds that this is the only thing can secure its existence; you are arguing for open-ness and anti-discrimination, not recognising (or worse, recognising) that the principle of open-ness and anti-diversity leaves no option ever to say ‘this far but no further.’
The predictable long-term product of our enacting the BNP’s principle of universal nationalism contrast favourably with the long-term product of principled non-discrimination.
Alain de Benoist wrote:
What is the greatest threat today? It is the progressive disappearance of diversity from the world. The levelling-down of people, the reduction of all cultures to a world civilization made up of what is the most common. It can be seen already how from one side of the planet to the other the same types of construction are being put up and the same mental habits are being engrained. Holiday Inn and Howard Johnson are the templates for the transformation of the world into a grey uniformity. I have travelled widely, on several continents. The joy which is experienced during a journey derives from seeing differentiated ways of living which are still well rooted, in seeing different people living according to their own rhythm, with a different skin colour, another culture, another mentality – from recognizing they are proud of their difference. I believe that this diversity is the wealth of the world, and that egalitarianism is killing it. For this it is important not just to respect others but to keep alive everywhere the most legitimate desire there can be: the desire to affirm a personality which is unlike any other, to defend a heritage, to govern oneself in accordance with what one is. And this implies a head-on clash both with a pseudo anti-racism which denies differences and with a dangerous racism which is nothing less than the rejection of the Other, the rejection of diversity.
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And despite your nasty lies that an Englishman concerned for his people’s existence is a whitesupremacistneonazi I came to these opinions first with regard to Tibetans and Palestinians. Only after several years’ soul-searching did I decide my own people deserved equal respect, such is the power of the anti-White and anti-English indoctrination my generation has endured and which you perpetuate with your slurs.
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“Voice of reason says:
October 31, 2009 at 11:20 pm
The same way they keep the unemployment and crime figures down…..
you fiddle the statistics.”
Please!
Even this corrupt conniving thieving bunch can’t fiddle statistically a population of 60+ million down to 30 million!
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Careful Sam, there’s been a lot of that sort of thing up your way recently too.
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shoot them
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Kill them all and make flying jackets out of ther skin..
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wtf ,i think theres been far MORE of it down your way
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Well we have a bigger population, more enriched & have Westminster on our doorstep too.
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you do have a bigger population,what is the bnp figures now 20 million illegalls,10 million legals,itll be something like that
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I’ll go for the 10 milion figure.
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someone has to chip in for those pensions with our ageing population. hmmm
Hey tonight i saw an ex waffen ss prisoner who was held in scotland during wwII. He said he was in an elite unit and the entry requirements were to be a minimum 6ft tall have all your own teeth not wear glasses and heres the interesting bit… You had to be able to trace your family as being german from 1800 onwards. Sound familiar?
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the bnp will have to change that criteria!
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Oh dear, I wouldn’t qualify then for the SS, too short, missing a tooth & not in the least bit German.
I have never heard the BNP talk about teeth, glasses or height & the British bit is up for debate as well.
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VoR
“someone has to chip in for those pensions with our ageing population. hmmm”
Well it ain’t going to be a load of illegals that is going to do that, not paying billions out to foreign countries incuding the EU would be a start & allowing tax breaks on those who want to manage their own pensions & savings would also be good.
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well thats the point surely,they couldnt have those specifications for their membership,if they did theyd be having their agm s in a phonebox,although i do exceed the height limit…6ft 4in
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But VoR was trying to say there was a similarity between the requirements of an elite SS unit & the BNP but it didn’t quite work out.
Anyway it looks like you might be in with a Scottish SS unit then?
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yeah thats the old bnp policy. Theyre taking the meds now and their better people.
Old “dick” cant go to sellafield eh. that was a surprise for him i bet. The bnp guy said the Sinn Fein/Ira got a visit. Hmmm has anyone told him its all over with the IRA weapons gone etc? funny moment on the one show last night when they said these nazi prisoners were doing work here during the war …
the comedian guy says we should get them off q/t and get them working agiain to help the economy. Dick has become a national joke (become more of a joke i mean)
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VoR
“The bnp guy said the Sinn Fein/Ira got a visit. Hmmm has anyone told him its all over with the IRA weapons gone etc? ”
You believe that?
I don’t, as seen by that funeral the other day, firing over the coffin.
The BNP don’t have guns or explosives as such, they have not said “The bullet & the ballot”.
If they did maybe the government would do deals with them?
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Nick is not on benefits so it makes no difference to the economy, maybe making Jack Straw, Baroness Warsi & the other tax sucking leeches unemployed would have a positive effect on the public purse.
I think it is worth a try.
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WTF, you are right. The Irish republican terrorists (Sam’s heroes) are still there and still armed.
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Another benefit to them being unemployed would be that they’d have to stop b******g-up everything.
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I see the Irish republic is fed up with it’s much lower immigration problem. Sam, you had better find another flag to fly at Parkhead!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/nov/15/ireland-pay-immigrants-go-home
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