Here is a round up of the best analysis of the last night’s BNP appearance on QT.
Nick Griffin: repugnant, slippery and exposed as an empty vessel – Daily Mail
Max Hastings gives his analysis of last night: “This was not Question Time as we know it, about Afghanistan, or the Roman Catholic bid to take over the Church of England, or bankers’ bonuses. It was QT squarely and exclusively about Nick Griffin and the views of his British National Party.”
On the immigration debate, Hastings says the following: “The Tory Baroness Warsi, by far the most impressive member of the panel, asserted boldly: ‘That is not an honest answer. There are real issues. We have to go out and say to these people – who have voted for the BNP – we are prepared to listen. We are prepared to deal with this. We need a cap on the numbers.’”
BNP on Question Time – Daily Telegraph
“Tory peer Baroness Warsi said Mr Griffin was ”obviously a confused man” and a ”thoroughly, thoroughly deceptive man who comes on here and tries to sell whatever message that he wants”.
He was ”evasive” in his answers and brings Christianity ”into disrepute”, she said.
But Baroness Warsi also accused Mr Straw of not being honest when he claimed that the rise of the BNP was not because of voter dissatisfaction with Labour policies.”
Nick Griffin on Question Time – The Times
Matthew Parris says: “For me the star of the panel was Sayeeda Warsi, from the Shadow Cabinet. She was cool, she was measured, and spoke with quiet passion. She sounded sincere and avoided fireworks.”
He goes on to say:
“Jack Straw tried too hard. He looked anxious, sounded forced, and seemed to have practised many of his lines, losing his audience as he banged on about the past. To me — and for the first time in my observation of Mr Straw over the years — he was starting to look and sound like a man out of his time. He won, and deserved, the first spontaneous applause when he talked about the Second World War contribution of black and Asian troops; but when Lady Warsi challenged him to acknowledge public fears over immigration (“there are some things politicians just have to be honest about”) she had the better of him. It was of course easier for Lady Warsi as an Asian, to make this argument without fear of being called racist; but she exploited the advantage elegantly and with intelligence.
For the Liberal Democrats, Chris Huhne was lucid and confident, and spoke cogently, but said little that was distinctive; he didn’t lead; he didn’t take the argument forward.”
Nick Griffn’s night out – The Guardian
Sunny Hundal writes:
“Like most people, I hate admitting when I am wrong. But the BBC proved me wrong last night by showing an episode of Question Time that wasn’t the car-crash I was expecting. My concern has always been that it was the wrong platform for Griffin as it doesn’t usually allow sufficient space for people to challenge each other. And so Griffin could have got away with pretending to be a “normal” politician by offering populist rants on Royal Mail, Afghanistan and other issues.
As it happened, the BBC’s David Dimbleby did not let him off the hook so easily and made him answer up to his highly controversial past. He was caught out: flustered, making inane statements and pretending he was being stifled by European law when asked to explain his antisemitic views. He must have felt stitched up.”
What the BNP leader says and the facts show – The Guardian
This is an excellent piece on what Nick Griffin said last night.
Tags: Question Time, Sayeeda Warsi
Matthew Parris: It was of course easier for Lady Warsi as an Asian, to make this argument without fear of being called racist
One more reason to vote for the anti-racist BNP – the only party that doesn’t think that not being white is a value in itself.
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this is for you fellist regarding your explanation of why the colonials helped during wwII
Aaaah the standard they fought for themselves . so smart arse why did they come and fight in the 1st world war when independance wasnt even on the table then. 1.5 million indians volunteered and heres a little cut and paste from the longman companion to the first world war( a reputable and recognised reference book)
With regards to Africa, the figure of 55,000 refers to soldiers who saw combat; the number of Africans involved as auxiliaries or otherwise is likely to include several hundred thousand. Troops were drawn from Nigeria, Gambia, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Nyasaland/Malawi, Kenya and the Gold Coast. Figures for South Africa are given separately. In the Caribbean, the British West Indies regiment drew men from across the region, including Barbados, Bahamas, Honduras, Grenada, Guyana, Leeward Islands, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and Trinidad and Tobago; the bulk came from Jamaica.
if you think reference books are part of a marxist conspiracy then try the commonwealth war graves commission.
You Sir are a tool of the highest order. In the first week of the poppy appeal where we rightly remember those who gave their lives for us, have the gall to attempt to belittle their sacrifice to justify your own beliefs about race and colour. Putrid Rancid man SHAME ON YOU.
I bet you have the gall to buy a poppy aswell you snivelling
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You Sir are a tool of the highest order. In the first week of the poppy appeal where we rightly remember those who gave their lives for us, have the gall to attempt to belittle their sacrifice to justify your own beliefs about race and colour.
Ok so if they fought four their own ideals in wwII how do you explain the 1.5 million volunteers from india in the first world war when independance wasnt even on the table.
With regards to Africa, its likely to include several hundred thousand. Troops were drawn from Nigeria, Gambia, Rhodesia/Zimbabwe, Sierra Leone, Uganda, Nyasaland/Malawi, Kenya and the Gold Coast. Figures for South Africa are given separately. In the Caribbean, the British West Indies regiment drew men from across the region, including Barbados, Bahamas, Honduras, Grenada, Guyana, Leeward Islands, St. Lucia, St. Vincent and Trinidad and Tobago; the bulk came from Jamaica.
All statistics from the commonwealth war graves commission and the longman companion to the first world war(a reputable reference ,not some marxist conspiracy)
Do you wear a poppy ??? YOU SHOULDNT!
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I thought he did well considering there was a lynch mob outside & a fairly hostile one inside, I have seen politicians look a lot shiftier under less pressure on Newsnight getting “Paxo’d”.
If someone threw quotes at me from years ago I’d have a hard time responding too, one to remember if it was accurate & what the context was, along with the punctuation or stress of it, is it ironic, factual or just plain sarcastic?
Eats, shoots & leaves & all that stuff.
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I also ask again how edited was this programme?
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my text came in 5 mins after i sent it and it appeared at the bottom of the screen ? probably a 1min delay in case someone jumped up and beat the S**T out of him
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Actually the debate on this programme reminds me of the story of the 3 blind mice who come across an elephant, afterwards they discuss what it was.
They all have different experiences as one felt the ear & thought the elephant was thin, leathery & flat.
The second thought it was like a snake as he had felt the trunk & the third thought it was like a tree trunk as he encountered the leg.
So they were all correct but none saw the bigger picture, which is what is going on here!
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“reasonable voice says:
October 23, 2009 at 11:46 am
my text came in 5 mins after i sent it and it appeared at the bottom of the screen ? probably a 1min delay in case someone jumped up and beat the S**T out of him”
Interesting (not the shit beating bit) as my understanding is that the programme was actually recorded earlier but that doesn’t stop a live or delayed text being displayed on the broadcast programme.
I assume yours was a comment not a question?
If it was a question was it answered by the panel?
Not directly I guess.
Nothing is quite what it seems, the magic of TV & all that.
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I dunno i doubt youd say something as stupid as some of DICK Griffins quotes.
He’s dropped some clangers over the years. E.G.
Johnson Beharry the first living man for 60yrs to get a V.C. got it because it was a p.r excercise. Bollox ive met a guy who was one of the ones saved by him on his second trip back with his warrior through enemy fire. His face was full of shrapnel holes you couldnt see what colour he was for blood, but you could see his brain through his skull. Id like to see “DICK” suffer that for a bit of good publicity.
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yeah they must back up the texts and let them through for the correct point !! sneaky sneaky. Maybe its all edited and Nick is the good guy and the BNP isnt racist anymore…. lol maybe derren brown hypnotised him into being rational.
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I am not saying he’s the “good” guy but I am comparing him with others & politics is a very dirty business.
I can no longer in good conscience vote for the mainstream.
I have said many times before how simple it would be for the Conservatives to see off the BNP but they won’t do it.
Maybe Derren Brown type tricks are being used more widely than you think & not by the BNP.
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you cannot defend the bumbling fool,if hes the answer to britains plight ,we d be better just shrivel up and die just now,the mans a tube
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WTF said, “I have said many times before how simple it would be for the Conservatives to see off the BNP but they won’t do it.”
It’s something powerful and dark that can keep a political party from simply doing what almost everyone in the country wants done.
Did you see the big Enoch Powell documentary a year or two ago? Heseltine admitted that in the aftermath of his ‘Rivers of Blood’ speech Powell as leader of the Conservatives would have won a landslide general election victory. Polls for years found him the most popular politician in the country.
Democracy? I don’t think so.
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Birmingham City Council is obliged to rehouse immigrant tenants living in overcrowded properties. The Times columnist asks:
What are likely to be the feelings of 50,000 white would-be tenants in Birmingham, who have waited years for a decent house, when they see newcomers, no matter what their colour, taking over whole streets of properties?
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Guess the year that this appeared in The Times?
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Err 1968?
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Answer: 1954! (November 8th)
For over fifty years they’ve been putting this over on us… we hear you now; vote for us – we’ll sort it;it has been too much, too fast, and uncontrolled; from now on we shall take control of immigration and manage it for you, our dear voters
Election after election, decade after decade, govt. after govt.
Betrayal after betrayal.
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I’m out of the country at the moment, and so only saw snippets from BBCWorld and CNN.
Nick Griffin looked shifty, sweaty, shaky and bloated. My non-British companions were at first bemused, then angy, and then burst into laughter at what they heard.
He’s become a national laughing-stock, and a national shame.
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At least you know what you get if you vote Tory.
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“laughing stock” “shame” sums england up completly
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After seeing last nights QT I am more likely to vote BNP. All the show did was stich up Nick Griffin and the audience were totally unrepresentative of Britian.
Baroness Warsi actaully said there are no bogus asylum seekers! How can we vote Conservative when she said this?
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oh no jans gonny vote for the nazis that means they might not lose their deposit damn
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Baroness Warsi was easily the most intelligent speaker on QT last night, nothing to do with her race. The way she made Griffin squirm through her mastery of the facts was a delight to see.
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I’m with you there Jan. I guess the Conservatives will get in anyway and it’ll probably be more of the same. When I saw their conference I actually thought they had come to their senses!
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Unless the Conservatives leave the EU, they have little control over anything.
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“I dunno i doubt youd say something as stupid as some of DICK Griffins quotes.”
Well I hope not but I probably have said some very pretentious & pompous things as a teenager.
My Father dropped a couple of clangers in print, he said that “Walkmans” would never catch on as people would be too self conscious & that English men wouldn’t wear shorts!
Well this one doesn’t but as for the rest….
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What a waste of a QT, anyone with a basic bit of knowledge and know-how can do some research and find out what the BNP and Nick Griffen stand for. What I would have liked to have heard would have been some policy arguments amongst the panelists with regards to the issues that have allowed the BNP to gain political traction, maybe next time eh…
The really scary thing was the unite ‘against’ facism mob outside the gates. These people really have deluded themselves into believing that attempting to suppress the views of an elected official is protecting democracy. Extremist behaviour is never going to go down well with most of the British public, no matter what side of the political spectrum it comes from.
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Frugal Dougal, what facts do you refer to? Like most people I’m struggling to remember much more than her “no bogus asylum seekers” gaffe.
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I think if they are not French or Irish then they are economic migrants & not asylum seekers as they have come through safe countries to come here.
So most if not all are bogus.
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what about bogus politicians..herr griffin springs to mind
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I think all are probably bogus in some form or another.
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they are ,and griffins no different thats why i cant understand this saviour status that he s currently recieving
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I thought he was getting arrival of the anti-Christ status.
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depends on where your looking from i suppose
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Dont think he s done himself any favours even within the rank and file supporters of the bnp
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Well the Klu Klux Klan got a mench so the burning crosses might have confused people?
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The BNP website & its commenters have a generally positive spin on the whole thing.
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well he was photographed in their company,
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I’ll have to look that one up along with the speech.
I heard a little of David Duke before, it seemed ok but maybe he was on his best behaviour?
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“well he was photographed in their company,”
He was also photographed in the company of Jack Straw, Baroness Warsi, Bonnie Greer etc but I don’t think he’s a liberal or New Labour , Moslem or an ex Communist just yet, do you?
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Sam maybe photographed in the company of an Englishman but it is not catching, you will still be ginger afterwards!
Before anyone says it, I don’t mean ginger beer either!
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The Baroness’s comment about “bogus asylum seekers” was actually correct. An applicant or “seeker” cannot by definition be bogus. Only when the application is investigated can they be deemed legitimate or bogus. Perhaps those BNP supporters that jumped on the so called “gaffe” need a little more education in the use of the English language. Ironic really! As far as Griffin goes, the man is a liar, conman and idiot! The indigenous population of England stems from 17,000 years ago? Neanderthals then. That explains the BNP membership!
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wtf…im not ginger,thats racial sterotyping…no away and do the lambeth walk wiv a jar of jellied eels
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wtf me ould mate have you been on the sherry
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I’ve been out today with the patriots of the BNP ,we had a great day and a fantastic response,I would personaly like to thank sites like this one for letting the British people know what bullies the labour and conservatives are,oh yeah, and the British Bullshit Company(bbc) for the spineless attempt to film ‘pantomime time’ (QT) and we all know who the ‘baddies were’,don’t we.
Long Live Patriotism,long live BNP.
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Well Sam it was you that brought up the Scottish & ginger thing but I am sure you can be 100% Scottish without it, so i was not racially stereotyping you.
I haven’t been down Lambeth way for quite awhile & I’m not keen on jellied eels or sherry either.
I did however sit & listen/read to some more David Duke, he forgives Nick Griffin for being a bit misleading about their meeting but also says he hasn’t been in the KKK for about 30 years, obviously he is still into the same politics & the Jewish conspiracy theories.
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what a great night out that would be with those two
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JMAC
I think the Baroness was being clever with her words, the devil was in the detail, typical politician.
Why then don’t we have the entire world come here, or at least those who want to, & claim asylum, then make a decision?
No the system would collapse under the strain, there already have been 5 amnesties I know of, we have to have more control or things will be even more strained.
My biggest fear is we go on the way we are, a lot of innocent people will suffer the backlash or get caught in the crossfire as various communities fight to hang to what they see as theirs.
So clever use of the language aside, I don’t accept that a person crossing many safe countries to come here is a genuine asylum seeker, they are an economic migrant.
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Which two Sam?
Do you mean David Duke & Nick Griffin?
I bet you call him Dick now?
Tell you what, if you’re game, I’ll give it a go!
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is her baroness trying to reposition the Torys on immigration, or is she just stating the bleeding obvious. Either way, you wouldn’t trust them to fix the problem.
At least Griffin has the balls to tell it like it is.
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Well it has now been proved what the BNP said about mass immgration was true, that it was allowed without democratic mandate so as to destroy the opposition to immigration.
If that isn’t treason I don’t know what is, along with all the criminals & terrorists that were allowed in & the deaths & suffering caused by that.
I am sure it will be proved also that Tony Blair is a war criminal.
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what about herr griffins photo in todays tabloids with a convicted paedophile,or is it more state propaganda to destroy those chaps at the only party to save britain …shocking.funny enough ,i once heard gerry adams claim that years ago,but he was mocked and derided in the british press
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Well Sam do you honestly take seriously “todays tabloids”?
They are comics for unthinking adults.
OK lets say this foto is correct, I haven’t seen it so I can’t explain it yet.
I’ll get back to you on that one.
That said, you can find many examples of mainstream politicians who turn out to be convicted paedophiles, fraudsters, killers & so on.
As for Gerry Adams I can’t stand him, so I don’t care, I wasn’t a fan of Ian Paisley either but it is irrelevant to them.
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“SNP candidate slammed for ‘disgusting slur’ on voters”
Is in the Scottish Record.
I give up Sam, which rag was the foto in?
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Has anyone else read this? Very scary story about the true reason behind out-of-control immigration.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1222769/Dishonest-Blair-Straw-accused-secret-plan-multicultural-UK.html
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Hello all.
Some good points on here tday. Griffin may have the balls to tell it like it is but he hasnt the position to make credible because of his obvious racist history. Now in a way i do feel sorry for the average white guy because he cant make a statement on immigration without someone thinking he goes home and gets dressed as a member of the Waffen SS. I as a non white person get to speak on the subject without any such problem. Im gonna give you my plans and i have been called a nazi before, as some of my ideas are pretty mmmm harsh to say the least.
Compulsory preventative chemical contraception administered to all. (currently women but i dont care who gets it Implant/coil type device.)
Now the right to have children is a basic human right i know.
But so is my right to walk down the street without being exposed to your ill educated, bad mannered sprogs.
If you want kids, you illustrate your ability to educate and finance your children and your ability to provide moral guidance and discipline. a licence is granted the contraceptive device is removed and off you go.(in malaysia before marriage you have to attend classes).
The unemployed earn their benefits… im not here to humiliate people and have them working on chain gangs but this country has a million things it needs doing and more than a million doing jack shit. So off you go into your community, help your fellow man and you will recieve top ups to the basic benefit. Sit on your arse and you wont be watching the soaps on a 50inch plasma and getting pissed every day(youll be starving). If you are incapable of work due to illness. PROVE IT. the genuine disabled will be encouraged to find work they are capable of. If you are severely disabled relax, we will carry you and provide a good standard of living(and pay for family members who care for you)
im stopping now before i get to the bit where i replace the bone idle with people from accross the world(colour irellevant) to fill your position if you decide your just gonna live off my/our contributions.(fuckoff to sub-saharan africa) Because i know that kid sifting through the tip or sewing trainers all day to live, will do something with the opportunity that being British affords you.
Oh and 6 weeks compulsory voluntary work overseas(aged about 12) cause i remember getting lazy at school and my dad sending me to India. It only takes a few hours of seeing people starving to death to make you grateful and affirm your commitment to improve.
I cant wait till im the leader of the bnp …. and i havent got to crime and punishment yet.
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I found Nick Griffin uncharismatic but refreshing, honest, intelligent, and far more courteous than the other panellists. David Dimbleby conducted the audience like an under-rehearsed orchestra. I hope he is given the chance in a one-on-one interview to put forward his party’s views at length, without being continually interrupted.
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Hi Reasonable voice
“the average white guy because he cant make a statement on immigration without someone thinking he goes home and gets dressed as a member of the Waffen SS.”
Yes this is the clever thing that PC politics has done, it has done a form of conditioning, word association, neural linguistic programming is what I think it is.
As I have said before “Racism” & “Fascism” have become “shut up” words, debate stoppers.
The idea that to be declared a “Racist” &/or “Fascist” is the biggest sin in the world has been well & truly planted in peoples minds by people who are basically Marxists.
That has to be the sickest joke going.
You can imagine Stalin saying to Hitler “That’s not the way to kill people, you’re an amateur compared to me & Mao”.
It has led to the average white English person uttering the immortal line “I am not a racist but……” & by PC standards they will then say something racist.
I always laugh when that line comes out & kick myself if I am stupid enough to say it.
They are made to feel guilty about their opinions, others can say dreadful things but that is ok they’re not white.
It seems everybody can claim victimhood except a white man unless he is a hard done, overworked, overpaid MP & they are precisely the people I am blaming for this evil mess.
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the british are not as nice as they look,all this talk of fair play and tolerance is self serving narcissism…Scottish Daily Record mon 26 th oct 2009
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“Sam Pauli says:
October 26, 2009 at 9:53 am
the british are not as nice as they look,all this talk of fair play and tolerance is self serving narcissism…Scottish Daily Record mon 26 th oct 2009″
I can’t see the context or point of this at the moment.
But I did see this horrible story “Scots hero soldier knifed to death in street after trying to save taxi driver”.
To go through all that & die so pointlessly, I hope the locals get the person responsible.
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Sam
“Former Aberdeen Lord Provost gets stuck after glue and toothpaste mix-up”
Oh yes I do that all the time, that is why I have to type everything!
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“reasonable voice says:
October 25, 2009 at 11:23 pm”
“Im gonna give you my plans and i have been called a nazi before, as some of
my ideas are pretty mmmm harsh to say the least.”
I’ll say!
Yes the Nazi’s went down this route before & I believe the Swedish did too.
Eugenics has been around for quite awhile & has been quite fashionable.
I don’t think it will work, the problem is who decides who is unfit to breed & it always ends unpleasantly.
On the subject of “ill educated, bad mannered sprogs” we get to “Common Purpose” & why things are crap in this country.
Check out Brian Gerrish for that & Albert Burgess for the illegality of the EU.
Neither have any connection to the BNP.
Now your ideas for crime & punishment don’t involve piano wire, meat hooks or gas chambers, do they?
Otherwise I am going to seriously get worried!
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Somebody said in response to the jibe about the BNP going to the South Pole because it is nice & white, “How long would it be after we had got things up & running, that the first asylum seeker would be knocking on our door?”
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Reasonable voice
I would also say that some people don’t know when they are well off & a dose of reality isn’t a bad thing.
I want to see less government, I want the BNP to stay out of the bedroom & concentrate on the boardroom.
Heard about the census questions LieBore want to ask in 2011 unless Dave quashes it?
Who stays in your bedrooms overnight?
Cheeky bunch of perverts.
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wtf the eternal question is, and always will be “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?”
I wouldnt call it Eugenics(i always understood that was building the perfect Aryan) Its not quite the same as i dont believe that you can be “good born” we are equal born. Nothing seperates you and i from the kid starving in Africa.
Just blind luck. Islam oddly enough dissolves the whole idea of race. My father on his pilgramage to Mecca performed the rites with muslims from all over the globe non more preferential to god than the other. I just think we either get people to take responsibilty now or we really are fooked.
I am afraid the death penalty would be back(contrary to human rights legislation) Im not some crazy but do they think they can “rehabilitate” someone who is guilty of raping a baby? Im afraid youd get your fair trial, appeal etc .Followed by an independant “check” given the nature of the punishment. then im afraid two shots behind the ear and an unmarked grave.
Rehabilitation costs vasts amounts of money and is wasted on many. Minor crimes… 3 strikes and your out is ok for me. violent crime = Violent punishment.
Corrupt officials or people abuse the public office…. 15 yrs and being stripped of your assets(lord archer for example wouldnt have come out to a fortune or wrote any more shit books) Im sick of bloody liberals too. Im a humanitarian with a big stick…lol
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Well Eugenics apparently goes back to Charles Darwin’s half cousin, perhaps they wanted babies to be born with beards or some such thing.
Rehabilitation has become a dirty word meaning let them out early & take your chances, a sort of Russian roulette for the public.
Now Lord Archer can be taken back to the Victoria Station toilets & have his head flushed down the loo for all I care.
Then he can eat all the unsold copies of his books.
You want cruel & unusual, I got it.
So in other words be nice or I am going to beat your brains out!
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the soldier killed in embra,by nice white christian boys..makes you think dosent it
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Exactly that ! wtf exactly that! lol.
Yeah darwin has a lot to answer for.. and the Americans who created and supported Eugenics institutes in Europe bear a great deal of responsibility for the Holocaust.
Ive had enough and so have a lot of others.. i was in Italy a while back and the family came out to stay for the summer holidays. I sat in a large town square at 11.30 at night on saturday with my wife and 3 children eating ice-cream. I cant do that here and it pains me. The town was full of pensioners and teens pretty much everyone you can think of… But no drunken vomiting/fighting/fornication that we have become accustomed to in Britain.
If we have to beat people for this little slice of utopia then pass me the truncheon… Ooooh i just thought i could be like a member of the Iranian “religious police”
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and the bnp want “britain” to be white and christian.no thanks says i
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Sam its tragic beyond belief. the killer will be walking the streets in 9yrs time (max) thats the real tragedy.
wtf .. Im not wearig rose tinted glasses about Italy.. I did see the twenty strong mobs of skinheads and the nazi graffiti everywhere … lol
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Sam
“the soldier killed in embra,by nice white christian boys..makes you think dosent it”
Must admit I couldn’t see a description of the killer(s) but I am not excusing something so pointless & extreme.
“and the bnp want “britain” to be white and christian.no thanks says i”
I think even they realise we are not going back to 1948, maybe 1984, oh hang on a mo’, that sounds ominous.
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maybe we should go forward to 2024 and ask prime minister mohammed on his thought about 2009
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sam pauli
yeah cannot wait for sharia law
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i alredy live by shilleleagh law,begorrah
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Sam
“i alredy live by shilleleagh law,begorrah”
Be nice or I’ll beat your brains out?
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and cover those ankles you slut !!! lol
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shilleleagh law isnt sharia law,tis a wee bit of oirish humour for jesus s sake
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hahahaha i know what it is now i got one from Derry its a leprechauns walking stick (least that what the mrs said)
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im sure you know plenty of “british”woman who would look much better under a burkha,but how would they get to their pints of lager and double vodkas and red bull
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where would they spew,i can see a bit of entreprenuaralism coming on here…sick bags for inside burkhas….3 for a pound 3 for a pound
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JMAC said: “The Baroness’s comment about “bogus asylum seekers” was actually correct. An applicant or “seeker” cannot by definition be bogus. Only when the application is investigated can they be deemed legitimate or bogus. Perhaps those BNP supporters that jumped on the so called “gaffe” need a little more education in the use of the English language. Ironic really! As far as Griffin goes, the man is a liar, conman and idiot! The indigenous population of England stems from 17,000 years ago? Neanderthals then. That explains the BNP membership!
You become a bogus asylum seeker when you fraudulently seek asylum, not when the fraud is discovered – at that point you’re no longer a seeker and the past tense becomes appropriate: ‘he WAS bogus asylum seeker.’
It isn’t known for sure exactly when our ancestors began to repopulate Britain. The wiki page on the ‘Genetic History of the British Isles’ – terrible title, should be British peoples of course – summarises some of the major studies:
The percentage of the R1b haplotype on the Y chromosomes of English males, at about 64%,[21] indicates that they may be descended primarily from the earliest Paleolithic peoples thought to have recolonised western Europe from a western Ice Age refuge after the end of the last major glaciation some 25-15 thousand years ago.
The Oxford archaeologist David Miles, in The Tribes of Britain, states that 80% of the genetic makeup of native Britons probably comes from “just a few thousand” nomadic tribesmen who arrived 12,000 years ago, at the end of the Ice Age.
Humans probably returned to the region of the British and Irish peninsula about 14,700 years ago, as glaciers started to retreat, after an absence of about 10,000 years.
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JMAC, do you thik a people should have fewer rights the less time it has lived in a place? That your point? How about British blacks and Asians?
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thik=think. Sorry.
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lets DNA test everyone then, and any deviation from that norm should be repatriated to from where the deviant immigrant bastards came from. Bloody vikings coming over here taking our jobs in their bloody longboats…. etc etc etc.
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Reasonable voice
“But no drunken vomiting/fighting/fornication that we have become accustomed to in Britain.”
I understand Italy can be a bit “Frisky” as they get the brunt as an entry point for immigration.
I hold LieBore for leading our youth astray with binge drinking.
Did you hear how rave culture was destroyed by the alcohol lobby pressuring the police to shut raves down?
Problem was that they took Ecstasy not booze, so once the raves ended, the bored youth were back in the bars.
It seems this government are happy for traditional pubs to go but encourage bingeing in bars & cheap alcohol in supermarkets.
Is this so they can’t think straight, can’t see what is happening to the country they will inherit?
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Ahhhh whilst you were away on mainland Europe for 10000 yrs my ancestors arrived from asia and opened a small newsagent/general dealer awaiting your return and the lucrative trade it would bring. I know it was cold in the ice age but nothing gets between an indian shopkeeper and the chance to make a few quid. Joking aside, the ice is still going as its defined by the fact the poles are ice covered
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Sorry “I hold Liebore responsible…..”
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yeah wtf i was one of those nasty people who gathered “in groups larger than ten listening to beat driven music” till maggie became the ultimate party pooper and brought out the legislation to stop it. cant remember the exact law… thatll be the disco biscuits lol
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Did it drive you into the bars or did the screaming teens put you off, I stay well clear myself.
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I just cant shake the islamic upbringing. i can drink but the results are messy re:vomiting/fighting/lame attempts at fornication. lol
i get bacon sandwich guilt lol
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reasonable voice if THEY dna everyone,britains gonny be a very quiet place,itll be like 28 weeks later,or was that edl march i was watching
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reasonable voice thats ENGLISH drinkers syndrome ,mibbees cos the beers like piss water,
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voice of reason, if the BNP don’t advocate extreme measures why invent examples of such to discredit them? It doesn’t… it discredits you.
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Just to be sure, reasonable voice is voice of reason, no?
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well aye and no reasonable voice is VOR alter ego,oops that wouldnt be allowed under the bnp would it?
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yeah thats me. i just really had to make a bacon sandwich !! mmmm breads brown but its ok. I was only being “funny” yeah they never said vikings just “non white people” but that all dosent matter cause that not what theyre saying now is it? or is it ? or is it what they think but dont say. im confused this new BNP has pickled my head. I can actually join now and even become leader..WTF!!
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schocking race story..White bread turns brown after toasting..griffin calls it a traitor as it undermines true bread values
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hahahahha sam you honestly nearly made me wee laughing.
They bleach it to make it white (fellist probably thinks thats a marxist/trotskyite/commie/liberal/islamic propaganda campaign) lol
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maybe thats the answer …showers ,insteaed of gas its bleach
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it nearly worked for MJ
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i canny help laugh at the “british” way of thinking,they want the brown man re patriated ,then every year they spend millions going abroad to try and turn brown….fecking superb
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The idea of a sun tan has nothing to do with race. It is to do with class.When it was only peasants who worked on the land the toffs preserved their pale,expensive complexions. When only the rich could holiday in the sun and the working class were pale from working in factories a sun tan became an aspirational must-have.
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