The arrest of David Lucas, a Suffolk based farmer and former BNP candidate, on firearms and explosives offences this week elicited an implausible response from Simon Darby, BNP deputy chairman and spokesman.
“I would imagine that it is to do with his capacity as an agricultural rural chap. It is just one of the many things that ordinary rural people have to deal with when you have got a politically motivated police force.”
These words are roundly rejected by representatives of Britain’s shooting community.
”The shooting community in Britain is one of the most law abiding in the world,” said Christopher Graffius, Director of Communications at British Association for Shooting & Conservation. “We have no truck with people who disregard firearms law and thus put themselves and the general public at risk. To complain that unlicensed weapons are common in rural areas is to insult rural people for whom the safe and legal handling of firearms is an important responsibility.”
It is not good enough for a party that aspires to the highest offices in the land to brush off law-breaking by senior figures in its ranks.
Tags: BASC, BNP, David Lucas, Shotgun, violence
i was led to believe that gun violence in Britain is mainly confined to west indian gangsters and albanians etc…
Maurice, why don’t you highlight that particular problem, or would you be labelled racist?
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oh aye ask the people of Dunblane that!White man with gun !
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or hungerford!
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excatly RV
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ok, point taken on that.
i was referring to the increase in handgun related crime in britain
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probably thats a statistic in most countrys in the world,..but hey why perpetrate the myth
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This is exactly why the BNP must not be excluded from public debate – so that we can see what eejits they are.
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do they still use the razor in the cap in Glasgow?
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yes why break tradition..
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“Frugal Dougal says:
October 30, 2009 at 1:08 pm
This is exactly why the BNP must not be excluded from public debate – so that we can see what eejits they are.”
Your answer has been spammed, but anyway “eejit” yourself.
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Spammed again, you have the floor to yourselves.
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The BASC have to trot out this line as they are very close to extinction.
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will it be (water)pistols at dawn?
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“i was referring to the increase in handgun related crime in britain”
And you were correct. Most gun crime in Britain is perpetrated by immigrant societies.
“do they still use the razor in the cap in Glasgow?”
No they don’t. Knives are still a large problem as in the rest of the UK.
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you need a “mars bar”on your face in glasgow,its part of your step into manhood
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Still a city of culture then?
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yup acorn is right Jamican Yardies and the like are filling our prisons ..
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RV
after the jamaican yardies etc… have completed their prison terms, are they deported if they do not possess British citizenship?
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wtf Glesga hasnt been City of Kulture since 1990
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aussie we ll deport them to Oz
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that’s all we bloody well need
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“Sam Pauli says:
October 31, 2009 at 7:38 am
wtf Glesga hasnt been City of Kulture since 1990″
So the idea didn’t take then?
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It’s very easy to sling the Anti White, Anti British slurs around, I seem to recall we didn’t always have armed police on our streets and a ring of steel round Parliament.
Whose to Blame, the British people perhaps, or is the Govt and the Media hiding the facts from us.
Decide for yourselves…..
http://iamanenglishman.com/rogues_gallery.php
Crime in the UK
http://tinyurl.com/cxa7ol
Our ruling elites have long known that as long as Britain is full oif Brits we would never surrender Sovereignty to the EU so they took the decision long ago to wipe us out, through mass immigration ( recent Neather revealation is it not ) a mass sterilisation programme and a mass abortion Programme, 7.2 Million since 1970, an extermination centre in every town misleadingly called a pregnancy advice centre….where dutifull nurses are trained to whisper ‘ts only cells’ into the ears of our women folk.
http://filestore.nationalarchives.gov.uk/pdfs/small/cab-129-93-c-58-129-29.pdf
It is truly amazing what you have all learned to accept as acceptable.
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AA yeah they are but it still cost 250 pounds a day to keep them inside And that excludes if they wanna do a degree or learn basket weaving and all the other bollox theyre offered in there.
Lol you cant object to us sending criminals to Australia can you ?
Actually joking aside you didnt have to do much to get sent to Australia as a criminal i think they sent the Tolpuddle martyrs there and they were righteous men if ever there were.
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all joking aside, if someone knows the answer, are non-British citizens deported after serving a prison sentence?
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aye….after they get 6 month for murder and 25 years for robbery they are sent home
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I think if they do more than a year inside they are supposed to be deported but that is not the way it seems to work.
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bloody typical… no doubt they are released onto the dole
should be sent back to cameroon
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or sent back to the cameron highlanders or the black and tans
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is that what you get when you mix a stout and a lager?
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you also get it when you mix criminals with the military
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not on this site sam, you might get barred for saying that; Maurice will have your gizzards for disloyalty or something.
which is ironic, because the BNP espouse loyalist sentiments
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I wonder what offence you have to commit to get a years sentence… the jails are so full youd have to bugger a minor royal to get a year(assuming the royal wasnt into that sort of debauchery)
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I suggest a crime against the state & not a person.
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no end of pakistanis plotting more bomb attacks
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arent all the royals guilty of debauchary?
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Buggered if I know….
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Sod it ,im sure they are.
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Yeah, two more yesterday in the news. thankfully against pakistanis for the moment..
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the royals are buggering pakistanis?makes a change from them buggering the british taxpayer
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Sounds like colonialism to me!
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tally -ho
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it would be interesting to know the tally of moslems who have died this year alone, as a result of suicide bombings etc…
besides attempting to destabilise Iraq, Afganistan and Pakistan, i cannot fathom their motives…unless they truly believe allah will give them 72 virgins upon arrival in heaven
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as long as it is heaven and not glasgow…theyll never find 72 virgins there
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What about 3 wise men?
Or they don’t do nativity plays in Glasgow?
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Caution ex muslim quotes the hadiths (lol)
Committing Suicide is a Major Sin:
Bukhari Volume 2, Book 23, Number 445:
Narrated Jundab the Prophet said, “A man was inflicted with wounds and he committed suicide, and so Allah said: My slave has caused death on himself hurriedly, so I forbid Paradise for him.”
Bukhari Volume 8, Book 73, Number 73:
Narrated Thabit bin Ad-Dahhak: ”And if somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection.
But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily God hath been to you Most Merciful!
If any do that in rancour and injustice,- soon shall We cast them into the Fire: And easy it is for God.
Qur’an 4:29 – 4:30
When you read the Quran youll find nothing in it endorsing rewards for suicide. Instead we find the strongest condemnation with severe punishments for those who commit suicide. When we look at Hadiths, which after the Quran is second in authority in Islam, we find nothing in the authentic Bukhari and Muslim Hadiths endorsing suicide. Instead we find strong condemnation for it.
Searching what Muslims refer to as Gharib Hadiths (weak or strange Hadiths) we do find something about 72 wives but not virgins. The Hadith we find is the following:
Sunan al-Tirmidhi Hadith 2562 says:
The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: “The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a [Yemen]“
This is as a weak Hadith of narration. Although listed in an authoritative collection, this particular Hadith has technical weaknesses in its chain of transmitters and is therefore not considered impeccable. As a result, Muslims are not required to believe in it. Even if the Hadith was true, there is nothing about it that says that if someone commits suicide they would get 72 virgins in paradise.
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Suicide bombings are the poor mans smart bomb. Often poorly armed and facing superior technology and numbers people sacrifice themselves for what they believe to be a just cause.. Its also a great big fuck you to the enemy.
American forces armed to the teeth with thousands of dollars of night vision radio, gps, ordanance etc get taken out by a peasant with and artillery shell in a bag and a switch. the targetting of non combatants is forbidden by the quran
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*{Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities.Lo! Allah loves not, aggressors.}* (Al-Baqarah 2:190)
The above permission to fight clearly lays down the following conditions: (1) Never commit aggression; fighting is allowed only for self-defense. (2) Fighting must never be against non-combatants or non-fighting personnel
The Prophet used to instruct his followers during battles and tell them not to be embittered or inclined to commit treachery. He asked them to spare non-combatants, particularly children and hermits. Caliph Abu Bakr gave the following instructions to the commander who led the campaign to Syria:
“Do not betray, be treacherous or vindictive. Do not mutilate. Do not kill children, the aged or women. Do not cut or burn palm trees or fruit trees. Do not slay a sheep, a cow, or camel except for your food. And you will come across people who stay in hermitages for worship; leave them alone to what they devote themselves to.”
A well-known example is that of Salahuddin Ayyubi (Saladin), who gave medical help to his opponent Richard the Lion-Hearted of England, who was seriously ill during the Crusades. He sent his own doctor and personally supervised Richard’s treatment until he became well. This is in contrast with the behavior of the invading crusaders. When they entered Jerusalem on July 15, 1099, they slaughtered seventy thousand Muslims, including women, children, and the elderly: “They broke children’s skulls by knocking them against the wall, threw babies from roof tops, roasted men over fires and cut open women’s bellies to see if they had swallowed any gold.”
This description was given by Edward Gibbon, the famous historian
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VoR
All well & good but not all extremists are following those rules.
The Americans didn’t have a lot of success against peasants on bicycles in Vietnam either.
I guess the rule is don’t pick fights with peasants as they have little to lose.
Which is why we are wasting our time in Afghanistan etc.
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wtf ,we could have asked the russians about afghanistan..but we still dont now if they re still the enemy
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I guess we thought they’d prefer MacDonalds to Borscht?
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Exactly my point they are not as the claim to be Muslims. The same as some extremist christians/jews/hindus are not what they claim to be. Just religion is what they twist to justify their requirements.
Yep your right dont pick on people who have little to lose and dont go and start a war in a distant land because you never see the enemy dead but you have to show the boxes coming home draped in your flag and the public just dont like to see that. Russia did well to last as long as they did. We should get out of there now.no yesterday
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Bad news from Afghanistan today 5 killed by a guy who infiltrated the police training …loads wounded too. Sneaky sneaky seems to be their m.o. Its like when mrs ghandi was whacked by one of the guard she was inspecting. Mind they did storm the golden temple and without generalising. Sikhs are a fierce people when provoked.
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Didn’t Sadat or someone similar get topped in the same way?
Also one of the Russian Republic’s President’s as well by a bomb under his seat?
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A military chap was explaining about the Afghan “Police” & that turns out to be a generous phrase, they are just basically badly paid men with guns not even plastic plod material.
It is their idea of being an entrepreneur, you want to get paid?
Here’s a gun & an uniform, the rest is up to you!
Another good reason why we can’t win in Afghanistan, the mindset is against it.
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Yeah same mistake they made in iraq. Militia is probably more correct as a description. Biut how the hell are you going to have a vetting procedure??
hello Mr Khan are you in the taliban? Its stupid, either they pour in thousands more troops and secure the place and take soviet style losses or they pull out.
The thing is western military tactics were for years set for a huge tank advance through germany by the russians. Now the games changed beyond recognition they really are screwed. Yeah we can bomb any nation on earth and show the vidios of bombs going down chimneys and stuff but at the end of the day you have to get out of your tank and get on the streets. We will always lose that one. The mighty us took baghdad in a few days but went home with their tail between their legs a few yrs later and here we go again
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The Sikh thing i said is because i had a fight with a Sikh guy at college they called “the turbanator” about 6′8″ and 18stones. i did surprisingly well till he eventually caught me with one …ouch lol. He’s a good guy and a good friend now though so its all ok. Monday 19th the little fella who edits private eye is doing a documentary on a British family and an Indian family whos sons and grandsons served together in ww1 and ww2. could be quite intresting. set the video(lol i mean dvd recorded/hard drive/sky plus)
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sounds like a good match for a tongan or samoan
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yeah he was built exactly like that never been to the gym in his life and build like a brick shithouse. lol. College rugby team just trampled everyone that year thanks to the turbanator mainly. He could hold up a scrum and push it on his own ..
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Mr lucas is a farmer,and yes he has guns,so-what.
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Nothing British,im telling all my mates,about how you got in bed with the hated reds,will any looney leftie or muslim be wearing a poppy.NOT ON YOUR NELLY.
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Great news the BNP are set to take third place in the Glasgow by-election,troucing the tories and the libdems,
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Maybe not! but youll always see a turban in the remembrance day parade in london and youll never wipe out the names on the cenotaphs around the world or hide the headstones pointing to Mecca in the Commonwealth war graves in North Africa…
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this armybnp is a first class bampot is he not?
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He rattled on about the great victory of brits against foaming mouthed muslims in Sudan then fell flat on his face when my 7yr old discovered the British were aided by Egyptians and Sudanese soldiers, with two of them for every white man. Hahaha. Then he was cheering about the bnp predicted to win 3rd place in the Glasgow east by-election till i discovered that third place means about 6-7% of the vote using the recent european election figures as an indicator. He could probably lift a ton as a grunt but struggle to spell it.
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here’s those results for scotland overall (lifted from the bnp website) Overall in Glasgow:
BNP 3,258 (3.23%)
Socialist Labour Party 3,080 (3.06%)
Scottish Socialist Party 1,731 (1.72%)
No2EU 1,577 (1.57%)
cant believe they actually bothered to put this up and consider it a victory.
I reckon if rab c nesbitt registered as a candidate he would get more of a percentage.
heres another quote:For example, in Speaker Martin’s constituency of Glasgow North East, we received an amazing 4.3%.
hahaha 4.3 amazing ?!? In eurovison terms thats BNP nil point.
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Weak in the head,Strong in the back…definatley cannon fodder,if only we had a couple of million like him
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“mr lucas is a farmer and he has guns – so what” hmmm what about the explosives and illegal ammunition? I think he is either selective in his reading or struggles with the longer words..
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Let’s get the explosives and illegal ammunition proved first!
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Wasnt that Gerry Adams election speech in 87?
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It is a good result for the BNP. Labour must be sh*****g themselves. The BNP has never stood in Scotland before and they beat the Lib Dems into fifth place and the Tories only beat the BNP by 60 votes.I bet also that Labour pulled out all the stops – and even so there was only a 33% turnout.
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Sorry, the above post was in reply to Vor.
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