48 people were arrested in Manchester
48 people were arrested over the weekend in Manchester, says the Guardian.
According to some estimates, 2,000 people attended the protests, by the English Defence League (EDL) and members of Unite Against Fascism (UAF) on Saturday afternoon.
Most of those who were arrested were for public order offences, but there were a few detentions for racially-aggravated offences, possession of weapons and drugs.
UAF protesters are believed to have outnumbered the EDL by nearly two to one.
Before the protests kicked off, the BNP released a strategically worded statement distancing itself from the “anti-Islamism” group. The BNP conspiratorially claims that the EDL is a Zionist front organisation, or is some other form of conspiracy run by “some dark hand” , quite possibly the State. But new evidence has emerged from UAF which claims that many of the EDL’s members have close associations with the BNP.
What isinteresting about the tactics of the EDL are its similarities to those of the National Front during the 1970s, who would attract supporters through their immediate concerns, in this case it the rise of Islamism in the UK, and then introduce them to a wider ideology of nationalism and race. Many lower level members of the NF would then pursue a course of violence and whipping up tension within fragile communities. So it comes as no surprise that Saturday’s protest saw some protestors sporting NF flags.
Tags: EDL, National Front, UAF
Ian are the EDL, WDL and SDL going to stand in elections are you just lobbyists
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glasgow the most divided city (excluding belfast) in britain
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reasonable voice?? doesnt sound it to me. there are videos of muslim youth attacking shoppers in birmingham at one edl march but nothing said about that. is there any uaf on here? if so can i just ask if you will be holding a demo against the muslim march in london?
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tracy ive never heard of the sdl ..when/where did they come about
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i have heard a few conversations about this and its a possible way forward. alot of work to be put in to stand for election but i for one would like to see it. would you?
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Be serious it took 5 years for uaf to learn “racist scum off our streets” it’ll take them at least 2 years to learn a new phrase that would not offend the Muslim extremists
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sdl are the new dl if you know what i mean. i know some rangers fans wanted to/did come to manchester and decided to make there own group. its a shame orange and green cant unite for this cause. i know that will never happen but a nice thought.
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tracy will you be attending in leeds? sounds like we are singing from the same sheet
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listen ive checked out my local edl, there are a lot more football banning orders than there are university degrees if you get what i mean. Im sure your intentions may be good but face it the “mob dynamic” means itll end in trouble.
What muslim march ? look the fact of the matter is a few isolated nutters slagged a few squaddies off on a welcome home march. keep it in context not use it to pursue some agenda.
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Ian, I think everyone with political views, and what you’re campaigning about is political, should stand for election if possible.
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No Ian I will not be in Leeds, I am not edl or bnp or any other whatever, I just do not be believe in judging books by their cover. If people start having conversation instead of confrontation a lot more problems can be solved
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there is a muslim demo in london to demand sharia law for britain on saturday. the demo is led by mr chaudary and co who have said on many times that all non believers of islam should die. thats not me thats him. i accept there are alot of very good muslims, but these militants are the problem. oh and are you trying to say that the opinions of the millions of people in this country without uni degrees dont count? your name is becoming more ironic by the minute
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tracey i couldnt agree more. thankyou for listening to my views and not making judgement before you have taken time to speak to me. like i said before i hate the bnp as much as everyone else.
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I thought that you had to get permission for a demo? Why are extremist allowed to demonstrate when the police and government know there is going to be a negative outcome. I’m all for free speech but aren’t these the extremist that the government are telling us that they are cracking down on?
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THIS IS WHY WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!!! ITS THE EXACT PEOPLE WE ARE AT WAR WITH!!! AND THEY ARE GOING TO BE ALLOWED TO MARCH THROUGH OUR CAPITAL CITY!!!!
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Ian. i was being a bit sarky nothing more…. everyone has a right to express their views regardless of their background.. there probably wasnt a single degree amongst the Jarrow marchers or the tolpuddle martyrs but their cause was just. Let the muslims march for recognition of shariah law it runs parallell to English law at the moment anyway and saves a great deal of money in legal aid when dealing with divorces amongs muslims and civil disputes in their communities. Im sure they dont want it to apply to everyone. If thats the case ill be there hurling pork pies at em (joke) cause as an ex muslim im sentenced to death by the crazy fundamentalists amonst them. Thankfully like the hardcore of the far right they are isolated and few in number.
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Don’t the powers that be realise that demonstrations like this cause people to join the extreme right/ extreme left which cause the problem to grow. Maybe the government should speak out with their opinion and what exactly their policies on extremists are and stop worrying about their latest scams with their expenses and how they can get away with doing as little as possible.
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hey folks ive been on their site and im off to get some pies and a ticket to london. Im taking the piss again but seriously this bunch are way way out of the scope of belief on the average muslim. they misquote and misinterpret the koran like its going out of fashion. They define Jihad as war when it in fact translates as struggle(Jihad is basically an internal struggle with your own moral weakness) they seem to forget that your not obliged to be a muslim which is one of the major things about islam. Finally if your going to have a “Jihad” by their interpretation of the word. It must be when you are being oppressed and prevented from fulfilling your islamic duty… piss off to mosque and pray no-ones stopping you. I bet they built a bloody prayer room at your place of work.
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reasonable voice
“When in Rome do as the Romans do” comes to mind. I would never dream about going to another country and demand to change their laws to suit me. I have more manners and understanding of peoples origin and history for that. Everyone has the right to be who they are as long as it is not forced on everyone else. Why are the extremist trying to change the law in Britain? Surely if they wanted to live under sharia law they would not choose a non sharia law country in live in.?
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hi there,i have just been reading some of the comments regarding these so called demos in birmingham,manchester and the up and coming one that is being staged in leeds this coming saturday.
i feel that the EDL are the voice of the the common people,who by all accounts have had enough of islamic extremists spouting vile anti-west chants at the country that house them,feed them and give benefits to them,if they carry on doing this kind of vile brain washing of the younger muslim generation then i can see blood on the streets of many cities in years to come.i for one are not racist,do’nt like the bnp but after the public flogging that mr nick griffin got you can understand the frustrations of the british public.
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now thats the voice i was waiting to hear mate. to be honest i really do think that everyone who considers themselves british should be against militant islam, and therefore a supporter of the edl as this is our ONLY agenda.
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hello ian pleased to see someone who can see whats happening all around them.there is quite a lot of people who think that this is going to go away,thus leading to heads in the sand,but the true fact of the matter is that when it dawns upon them it will be too late.
i feel that the EDL started because of the way our serving troops were insulted with vile chanting from mr choudary and his cohorts along side him.these lads were/are fighting for democracy in another country because the tyrants who run it do’nt allow free speech(getting like this country really) and democracy.
and you get the likes of mr choudary to insult our troops and he gets nothing in way of any charge against him for inciting racial tension in luton.
he should have been arrested and then deported back to the shit hole his ancestors came from.
we dont want them here its our country so fuck off,and as for the uaf,unwashed dirty lowlife scumbags you need to wake up and smell the coffee.
are you thick,must be.
ENGLISH DEFENCE LEAGUE FOREVER NO SURRENDER
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Tracy im not defending these pricks for one second, but havent we just spent 600billion pounds bombing the shit out of iraq(and killing 100 000 people) to install our own western style democracy? weve just learned that the 200 plus soldiers who died in Afghanistan are doing it to support a bloke that rigged the election anyway. When in rome works on the street for you and me but not in the corridors of power.
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Caution ex muslim quotes the bible : romans 12:20
Therefore if thine enemy hunger,
feed him; if he thirst, give him drink:
for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.
If we let them march it undermines their “oh the west are persecuting us” arguement.
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The people did not vote for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. If the public was asked there would not have been a war. All that achieved was death on both sides and cause everyone to fight against themself in the Uk. People should have a vote on wars it affects us all.
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Or it could be “give them an inch and they’ll take a mile”
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more likely “give em enough rope and theyll hang themselves” hopefully lol
yeah i know what you mean i wont judge you by the actions of our government.
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bryan jones why have you hijacked the ulster loyalists paraphrase of no surrender..those chants in glesga are sure see the edl will recieve a very “warm”welcome…i predict a riot
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I Belong to Glasgow,dear old Glasgow town,theres something the matter with Glasgow,theres a riot in the town,some idiots from england are marching for the crown,but the boys of the anti fascists have chased them all around,they crying Polis please protect us,for Antifablood has risen ,like the Phoenix from the flames ,that day we made them change “sieg heil”,to “my grannys heiland hame”
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Worthy of burns that one sam … lol
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reasonable voice “A Mans a Man for aw that”
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sam im sorry but you will never see the day the edl run from the uaf, or any other hippy group. we are english, red and white, and THESE COLOURS DONT RUN!
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that sounds very footie hooligan stuff to me.uaf?
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hippy?
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we are english(glasgows in scotland)red and white(tartan)uaf(who?)hippy group(cream)these colours dont run(they would if you got my missus to wash them)
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That’s because your Daz tries to make it all white!
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it ll be all white on the night..bnp conference!
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Come listen you good people ,and the truth to you i ll tell,about a band of young fascists ,called the EDL,just young lads of fascist blood ,for england they would die,and they followed adolph hitler ,and his nazi way of life
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Then one day in Glasgow,they re were making a helluva noise,singing “no surrender” ,and we are english boys,but AntifA lads were waiting,and we gave them a helluva shock,they flew back to the border,in cars and trains the lot,so they next time theyre in glasgow they will respect our ways,one scotland many cultures,thats the way we ll stay.NO EDL -NO FASCISTS-Glasgow 14 th Nov 2009
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there really is no talking to you anti fash people is there? your so blinkered, so concerned about doing the ” right thing ” its un-true. you believe in freedom of speach as long as the opinion being put forward agrees with your own. if not then you call the person a fascist. haha the antifa lads, now who sounds like a football hooligan? i hope they turn up in leeds!!!!
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SAM PAULI YOU ARE A PRICK!!!!!!!!!!
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It seems to me the EDL have mobilised to defend england because of the behaviour of less than 50 idiots. so theyve gone and mobilised a couple of hundred idiots. Yeah theres a few decent people in there but i bet you a fiver theyll smash up a few kebab shops and jump some dark skinned bloke. who might not even be a muslim let alone a “fundamentalist” saharia law nut. But when you drank on the train all the way up t glasgow and youve got your gander up on lager who cares eh!!
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ITS SHARIA LAW NUT…LEARN HOW TO SPELL
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Well i hate to split hairs but as Arabic dosent share a common alphabet with English (It has 3 different sounding K’s for example) youll probably find your not the authority on the subject.
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Now your ging to pick out the odd typo and call me a thicko ..BLAH BLAH BL:AH
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Reasonable voice… Why don’t the moderate muslims firmly condemn the extremist muslims? Nick Griffin was excoriated on QT by Warsi so…?
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Theyll be noticable by their absence from the march. Go to Sharia4uk (the nutters website and read the comments from moderate muslims
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We all get picked on for our typo’s, I guess there is nothing British about them….
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bloody typos coming over here polluting our grammar lol
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ive been moderated. MLJ go to sharia4uk and read what ordinary muslims think of them.. itll infuriate you i warn you. But then again remember theyre isolated idiots
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whooops strike that – reverse it. Its islam 4 uk (ITS NOT IN MY FAVOURITES) LOL
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Its islam 4 uk (ITS NOT IN MY FAVOURITES) LOL
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Come all you young fascists,and list while i sing,for the love of ones country is a terrible thing,it makes you a bigot,a twat and a pain,thats why you re part of the old racist game.
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Glasgow 14 th Nov 2009 E.D.L. v E.R.L(Easterhouse Rocket Launchers)
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edl v sswp,antifa,green brigade,cairde na,scotland united ,erl, what fun it will be
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We all live in a Glasgow housing scheme,a Glasgow housing scheme,a Glasgow housing scheme, we hate the british queen ,
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I name that tune in one!
Yellow Submarine.
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correct ,altough the glasgow version dosent get sung much nowadays
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Why do they like the Queen now?
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no,the younger ones have their own tunes,all that rave music,does my box in.still live and let live,my old man didnt like my musical tastes,what goes round i suppose.the queen really has no bearing on working class peoples lifes,her and her parasitical clan should be sent into exile.
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they just recycle the same old stuff anyhow… I remember laughing when my mates dad said flares would be back… then buying big bell bottom jeans when the manchester scene kicked off … 26inch bottoms i think you call those flares lol
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run fascist run fascist run run run,chased out of glasgow by the scottish ones,
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As billy connolly once said “intae em- fuck em up, intae em -fuck em up”
good show it illustrated how dumb the average edl member is.
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“run fascist run fascist run run run,chased out of glasgow by the scottish ones”
Once again, Sam shows his cowardly dog-pack mentality. Violence is fine if he is supporting or taking part!
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yes a-con(not a spelling mistake)cowardly like the heroes of the edl
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Yep, you prove my point. Violent in a pack, coward alone.
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you should know oh warrior of the master race……or should that be bastard race?
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Hi! UlkYPu
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Sam pauli…They sing a different version of yellow submarine at Ibrox
“We all live on a proddy housing scheme, fuck the pope god bless the queen”
Far more catchy I think!
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Oh yea and here’s another video from Manchester.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImdXSGew7H4
As you can see, the EDL wasn’t ‘driven out’ by UAF, like they wasn’t in Glasgow or Leeds. And they certainly won’t be driven out of Nottingham either. By the end of next year, you’ll see 2-3 thousand EDL on the streets on EVERY march. Get used to it.
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Sam Pauli , tell the truth now, you are a IRA supporter !!
And as for your childish remarks , dont be silly YOU know full well what happened in Paisley ! HA HA HA HA !
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Paisley?keep taking the pills 1882
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Surely all the EDL are going to achieve is trouble and more police powers for the state, BNP are not stupid, this is a state run organisation and they are not doing the cause any good because it will give the state what it wants.
More powers.
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Which is exactly why the BNP proscribed its members from having anythig to do with EDL rallies.
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Which is exactly why the BNP proscribed its members from having anythig to do with EDL rallies.
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1882 i didnt even know the ira had a football team!
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Oh yeah they were the bomb apparently!
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I just found out they were called The Crumlin Kangaroos
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