Arthur Kemp: Iran's nukes are no threat
Arthur Kemp, the BNP’s foreign affairs spokesman and chief ideologue, has said that accusations about Iran’s thermo-nuclear weapons programme come “direct from the lie-machine in Washington”.
Since the election of Nick Griffin and Andrew Brons as MEPs, the BNP have ratcheted up the volume on issues such as foreign affairs. The party used to be disinterested in foreign policy debates because it believed that such discussion had no relevance to its core voters.
Nick Griffin is desperate to shed the BNP’s image as a single issue party and would like to present to voters, now that it has political representation, that it is capable of holding its own in the political arena (hence why he spoke about Iran in his maiden speech to the European Parliament). Furthermore, BNP is attempting to mirror public concern on issues such as Afghanistan, Iraq and now Iran by debating foreign and defence policy.
In recent years there have been a number of serious concerns about the Iranian regime and its thirty year attempt to obtain nuclear technology. Mr Kemp believes that the “allegations” made against Iran are “politically motivated and totally baseless” and “nothing short of a wicked lie” amplified by the “controlled media”.
Mr Kemp, however, appears to be more concerned about Iranian immigrants than about a nuclear armed Iran. On the issue of a potentially nuclear armed theocracy, Kemp said: “As long as nations such as Iran keep their excess population from swamping Britain, we have no interest in interfering in their internal affairs”.
It would be interesting to hear what Mr Kemp has to say about the evidence against Iran and its involvement in helping to ship “Explosively Formed Penetrators” (EFPs) into Afghanistan, which have claimed the lives or nearly 40 British soldiers? Or its kidnap of 15 British servicemen in the Persian Gulf in 2007?
Nobody wants an armed conflict with Iran, diplomacy would of course be more favourable. But Mr Kemp’s attempt to use the reasonable anxiety that people have over the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and to shirk away from responsibilty over the issue of a nuclear armed rogue state is negligent, deeply worrying and not in Britain’s long term national interest.
Tags: Arthur Kemp, foreign policy
“Politically motivated” and “baseless”, are they mad, this is coming from someone who has questioned the amount of Jews killed in the holocaust, anyone can see that this is politically motivated stuff.
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
to add credence to this article, why not print Kemps speech and comments in totality, instead of cherrypicking a few words here and there, filling in the balance with your own analysis.
personally, if this is a true reflection of his comments, then i would strenuously disagree with Kemp, as Iran is based on extreme islamic theocracy, which is more dangerous than the threat (?) posed by Iraq under Saddam or Afganistan under the Taliban
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
Assuie Al, you can read Arthur Kemp’s remarks on the BNP’s web site (click on the hyperlink in the first para – see “said”), this is our analysis of his speech.
But you are right, Iran poses a massive threat and is probably (granted) greater than Saddam’s threat in 2003.
Cheers for your constructive comments. Much appreciated.
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
wasnt griffin in the pocket of Libya? Maybe now he and Kemp are in the pocket of Iran…..
dont the bnp oppose trident etc? so they want britain to drop its nuclear weapons programmes…. but dont mind aggressive and potential hostile countries to develope their’s?
bunch of fools.makes me want to start a political party, get 7% of a vote, and then earn half a mil to go hang out in Brussels and spout a load of crap!!!
Like or Dislike:
0 
2
they are well known for their radical policies,they maybe change from week to week ,but hey they re the party of the peoples
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
OK then, what is the answer?
Invade Iran, I don’t think so.
It could well trigger WW3.
Iran has to reform itself from within, I think it was previous meddling that made Iran what it is now.
Like or Dislike:
2 
0
WTF, I agree meddling in Iran has made it an unstable country. This of course dates back to the election in 1953. But it still doesn’t escape from the fact that Iran could develop nuclear weapons. You are right, no one wants WW3, but absolving responsibilty from the issue is not an answer.
Thanks for contributing to the site, may not always agree but thanks all the same.
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
now if the motor industry got fair dinkum about developing an engine that wasnt reliant on oil, all of these camel shaggers would not have the money to indulge in fantasies such as developing nuclear weapons
Like or Dislike:
1 
1
Sometimes doing nothing is the best option but politicians like to be seen doing something.
They tend to work in the short term but that has consequences for the long term.
The next Conservative government is probably going to have enough on its plate anyway & selling another war or intervention isn’t going to be accepted by the electorate.
But maybe there will be another 9/11 to get people on board the idea?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
AussieAl
Seen the new mini nuclear batteries?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
WTF, I hope we never have to see another 9/11 ever again. Intervention would, I agree, be a nightmare. But it should not be ruled out. In diplomacy all options must remain on the table. I don’t want to see more British soldiers lives being lost in another conflict, but a thermo-nuclear Iran is just too frightening to even consider.
You are right about the lack of vision from governments, they all seem to look for short term goals. Myopia is always a problem in politics.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Well the betting seems to be that Israel will do the dirty work at the US’s bidding by bombing the sites.
But I think the Iranians are prepared for that & the Russians already sold them a load of anti aircraft rockets & the like.
So that might not improve things.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Besides we tolerate a nuclear Pakistan that might fall to the taliban & who sold nuclear secrets to the moslem world.
What will we do then?
It could happen before Iran is ready.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
I dont think the allies would have it easy in Iran
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Some think that Israel will do the dirty work at the bidding of the US by bombing the sites.
But the Russians sold the Iranians a load of anti aircraft stuff.
So that might prove to be a spectacular own goal.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Geez this spamkiller is going to give me RSI!
Anyway the Iranians are expecting an Israeli attack by air & the Russians sold them a load of anti aircraft rockets & the like.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
surely an invasion of iran is utter madness,do these people never learn?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Obviously they don’t!
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
do we ever
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
The IAEA and Scott Ritter say the Iranian nuke stories are a lie. What does nothingbritish know that they don’t?
Like or Dislike:
2 
0
Well for starters the IAEA have not said it is a lie. If you read their recent report: http://www.iaea.org/Publications/Documents/Board/2009/gov2009-55.pdf
In it says that they have serious concerns about the military dimensions of the Iranian nuclear programme. And Scott Ritter hasn’t said it is a lie either, he was merely being wary of the facility in Qom.
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
Scott Ritter:
“The key here isn’t the technicality of the legal documents; it’s about the diversion of nuclear material. And the IAEA has a 100 percent accounting for the totality of Iran’s nuclear material. So, even if Iran produces this new facility, which, by the way, is not in operation and won’t be in operation for over a year, no nuclear material has been diverted, there still is a full material balance, and the IAEA is in complete control of the situation. Iran is not in violation.
This is not a reason to panic. This is much ado about nothing. But again, we come back to the original premise: this is about political hype, the United States hyping up a capability in Iran which doesn’t exist, and that is the capability to produce nuclear weapons…
Again, this is an argument or discussion we shouldn’t be having. If the Obama administration was responsible here, they’d de-emphasize this hype, this politically motivated hype, and deal with the reality that there is no nuclear weapons program in Iran, that the newly declared Qom facility is not a threat to international peace and security…”
***
That IAEA report hardly endorses the hysterical line of Obama,Brown and Sarkozy. You should be embarassed to link the two, it’s a transparent case of muddying the waters.
***
The head of the IAEA, el Baradei last week:
“There is a concern, but don’t hype the concern… There is ample time to engage [Iran] and reverse the concern and to move into more engagement rather than more isolation.”
Like or Dislike:
2 
0
[...] H/T: NBATB [...]
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
do you think the pro-israeli govts of the uk and usa could have fabricated this ?
Like or Dislike:
2 
0
conspiracy theory?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Well they seem to be itching to attack Iran & are desperate to find an excuse.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
WTF,
Nobody is “desperate for an excuse” to go to war with Iran – all options remain on the table. You are confusing concern for nuclear weapons with warmongerism. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the one who is desperate for a war with the West as he believes that this will see the return of Mahdi, the hidden Imam, the Messiah. All the party’s concerned including Britain, America and Israel have gone to great lengths to avert a crisis with Iran. For nearly 8 years now we have been in negotiations to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
What I find confusing about BNP sympathisers is the paradox over Islamism. Most will, quite rightly, argue that it is a mortal threat to Western values and that it wants to destroy our way of life by replacing it with the global Caliphate. But when it comes to confronting imperialistic Islamism in its sanctuaries, namely AF-PAK, or in Shia Iran, they run scared.
Perhaps you could explain to us why you believe retreating from Afghanistan and not applying pressure on the Iranian regime to give up its nuclear ambitions is going to make Britain a safer place?
Like or Dislike:
0 
1
lets not talk about wmd s
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Sam, just because they haven’t been found in Iraq (yet) doesn’t mean they don’t exist in Messianic Iran.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
As Sam mentions WMD’s, I will.
WMD’s appear to be a case of crying “Wolf” & most people are going view the whole business with Iran as the same thing.
We are not making much progress if any in Afghanistan & I think never will & again I say it is not our country.
It is imperialist to go around telling other countries how to run themselves or to do it ourselves.
What about Pakistan?
I would say that we are at war with them or at least a section of its people who are well represented in this country.
Are you saying we should now attack Pakistan & Iran on top of the mess in Iraq & the stalemate in Afghanistan?
How about we just nuclear bomb the lot into the stone age not that that would make much difference to some of it?
I assume that is what they intend to do to us & they have the suicide bombers here to do it.
Either get out or push the button as the middle way will be an intractable mess that we can’t afford & will consume us.
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
well said maurice
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
I am very well aware how messianic Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is.
Peeing about threatening sanctions is a waste of time, it is like Hitler, either kill him quick & big or back the f### off, nothing else will work & then you have all the others that will come in to take advantage of the situation.
Sanctions won’t work & are a waste of time.
Pakistan may well fall to the taliban first & then what, we invade them?Meanwhile Iran will probably ready its weapons & our only option is to nuke them, I can’t see what else will work.
So either prepare for WW3 & probably a billion dead or just get out of their faces, if they come here, then blow their heads off.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
does anyone think after 6 years think saddam had wmd s and the might of the allied forces cant find them?mmmm i very sceptical,and im more likely in thinking its a case of uncle sam s forcing their imperialistic hand ,and protecting israel and the invasion killed two birds with one stone
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
My other points are in the spam bin!
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
So Sam is in favour of invading other countries & telling them what to do?
Bringing death & democracy to the deserving eh?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
wtf no ,i meant to say well done you on your points,
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Oh right, thanks very much!
Type in haste, repent at leisure!
So Maurice appears to be in favour of WW3 & a possible billion dead?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
To be honest there seems to be a lot of warmongering going on, especially with American neo-cons even though they lost the election.
So as I say, either we back off & stop meddling which you (Maurice) agreed helped cause the present state of Iran or go all out & drop the big one on them & accept the fact you (or you at least supported that) killed millions of probably innocent people.
Which sounds a little fascist to me!
I’d rather back off & sort out this country but if they come to us, then I guess we have no choice.
As a priority sort out the islamic terrorism in this country first.
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
no no no,war makes the rich men more rich,thats why we go to war,nothing to do with helping iraqis or afghans as ive said before war is waged by the rich and fought by the poor
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
well said sami……….tigerrrrrrrrrrr
Like or Dislike:
1 
0
wtf will you wear your che t shirt to the next rwb bigot fest?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
To be honest I have never been to the RWB, it is a bit awkward for me at present to get to.
So if I went I feel an Enoch T shirt might be more appropriate, otherwise it is like when Gordon turned up to the Mansion House dinner in a lounge suit, when it is a black tie & tails do.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
they sell Enoch Powell t shirts?you learn something new every day
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Yes it is not all Golly badges you know!
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
i assume you didny get your che and cccp t shirts from the bnps website then
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
are you saying its all respectable and above board,and theres no racist prejudice,its all a media witch hunt
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
im sure i seen a documentary about it ,they were selling nazi memorobilia
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
sam i do find myself in agreement with you regarding Israel, that shitty little country is a major cause of the moslem worlds hatred of the west. Zionists in all western countries are protagonists for the Israel and foreign policy is thus drawn up to comply with defending Israels interests.
Apartheid is well and truly alive in Israel!
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
definatley,i think before the creation of Israel ,there was very little conflict between Christianity and Islam,in the recent past,forgetting the crusades and all that.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
spot on, and in fact in palestine, there was very little conflict between jews and moslems either
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
pre-isarel jews and moslem lived side by side
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
they are both semetic after all. it was the european jews ” returning” after 2000 years that put a spanner in the works
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
totally correct,going back to a state manufactured by the allies,and stripping the Palestinians of their homeland,nice ,so in reality the conflict and division within the israeli state the blame surely falls back upon the allies.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
it didnt half,will we ever see a solution or a compromise?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
if they could set up an israeli state for european jews returing after ww2,why cant they give the palestinians a similar homeland,with their own elected goverment,as far as i can see its the only solution,but im not a politician
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
because the israelis wont stop until they have it all; greed is a trait
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Sam Pauli said: “and stripping the Palestinians of their homeland,nice ,so in reality the conflict and division within the israeli state the blame surely falls back upon the allies”
And yet Sam Pauli is one of those – along with nothingbritish and the establishment parties and their ‘Islamist’ foes – who are happy to strip the British of our homeland… surely you guys are responsible for the conflict and division within modern Britain, Sam. The blame surely falls back on you, not on the BNP.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
why feline im i to blame?of course the break down in “british society” cant be blamed on the lazy parenting skills of thatchers children,the uncaring society promoted by the tories in the 80 s and 90 s,and the instalation of the greed culture imposed by succesive govts….naw its all down to islam aint it
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Oh, we must look to other reasons than race-replacement when it’s Brits being replaced. Got it…
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
no i aint got it ,lazy politics and racist groups like th bnp/edl blame everthing on immigration….it a cop out from the insane
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
I’ve never heard anyone “blame it all” on immigration, or P****s, or Jews, or Blacks, or *fill in your poison here*… yet I often hear people accused of thinking such things. It’s clear to me who is guilty of wild exaggeration.
The BNP in fact go out of their way to make it plain that the problems caused by mass immigration should not be blamed on the immigrant groups themselves but on successive establishment party governments who have acted contrary to the expressed wish of the electorate (and will continue to do so if we’re dumb enough to let them fool us again).
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
whatever,,,,the bnp s sole vote winning issue is immigration,if they had other more relevant policies,such as how to deal with the economic downturn,unemployment,utility companies ripping us off,drugs,crime ,etc,then maybe i would actually listen to them,,,until then?
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
if the bnp had other policies,apart from immigration,then maybe they would be seen as a serioud political party….i wont hold my breath
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Yes I put the blame at the feet of the politicians, both Conservative & Labour over the years.
Islamification wouldn’t happen without their say so.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
not much politically can happen without their say.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
& now mass immigration can be put at the feet of Nu LieBore.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Fucking idiots!
Like or Dislike:
0 
0
Language please.
Like or Dislike:
0 
0