21:16: Victory for Stolen Valour. Nothing British campaign is first question on QT. Most people who watch this will see that we were right: the BNP has no right to wrap itself in the honour of our veterans.
21:16: Sayeeda Warsi on News 24: Griffin had no views to give.
21:17: Huhne on News 24: He was held up for the views he is famous for
21:19: Huhne on News 24: “He is pretending to be something isn’t.”
21:21: Warsi: “Griffin came across as the man he is. A bigot.”
21:22: He didn’t face a hostile audience or panel. He just held to account.
21:22: Supporters of BNP are not racist. They are victims of Labour and Conservative duopoly
21:24: The BNP hold out a prospectus of hate & fear
22:05: Sky News has a member of the audience saying, “Unfortunately, Griffin came across as more reasonable than the other panellists.”
22:08: Sky News: “It was a little one dimensional. And he didn’t get an opportunity to score cheap points. He has gained an enormous amount of publicity. The audience gave him more of a rough time than the politicians.”
22:35: Is it fair the BNP has hijacked Churchill?
Jack Straw: No. The Nazis, just like the BNP is based on race.
Jack Straw: We only won World War One and Two because of millions of black and Asian soldiers. They died fighting for us.
Nick Griffin: “Churchill would be in our party because no other party would have him. His views on Islam and immigration would mean the BNP would be the only party. My father was in the RAF, while Jack Straw’s was in prison for not fighting. (boos)” – Pathetic. Very: “my dad is better than yours.”
Nick Griffin is attacked by a member of the audience for having disgusting views.
Sayeeda Warsi: Any party that has the disgusting views of the BNP have nothing in common with Churchill.
Sayeeda Warsi uses our briefing on Collett.
Bonnie Greer: If I was a BNP member I would be scared on the membership rule change. What kind of a political party is based on an idea on an indigenous people.
Chris Huhne: “Nick Griffin is playing the same old game of peddling fear. One thing that Churchill was never is a fascist.” Quite good actually.
Griffin: I am the most loathed man in Britain by British Nazis.
Griffin denies himself appearing in films. Doesn’t deny sharing a platform with the KKK leader David Duke but says they are not violent.
Straw: “Griffin always wants to wriggle out his past”.
Griffin laughs very awkwardly.
22:54: “I can’t explain why I used to think those things.”
Griffin refuses to answer Holocaust questions. “I have changed my mind. But mainly on figures.”
Straw gets angry.
22:56: Why is Islam a wicked and vicious faith?
“Because it doesn’t fit in with the values on Britain.”
“I want to make a pact with Islam. Britain must remain a British and Christian country.”
Warsi: Does he despise Muslims or love them?
Warsi brings up his past with Gaddaffi, Khomeini and Farrakhan.
Warsi: “Mr Griffin is a thoroughly deceptive man”.
Griffin: I went to Libya to persuade Gaddaffi to stop funding the IRA.
Greer: There is a reason why Griffin doesn’t talk about Romans, because everybody was a citizen.
22:03: Is the rise of the BNP down to the governments policy on immigration?
Straw: “No.” Unbelieveable, Straw brings up Powell! Stick to your govenments role in the immigration debate.
Straw: “Of course there is a worry. But net immigration has fallen.”
Answer the question Jack!
Dimbleby: “Answer the question!”
Warsi: You are not being honest on immigration. Real issues around poverty, social deprivation and immigration have caused the rise of the BNP.
Warsi: “Lots of people who vote BNP are not racist” (Large round of applause)
Warsi: “Britain should not draw up the bridge. Britain deserves the best and brightest people.”
Well done Sayeeda. Excellent points.
Huhne: “Lib Dems are the only party that can tackle the BNP.” (What a joke)
Warsi remains stateswomanly like and does chip in on Griffin. Unlike Huhne, Greer and Straw.
Griffin: “We are the Aborignes.”
Warsi: “Do you know the definition of genocide? Mr Griffin, how appaling you use that term in that way.”
Griffin laughs very awkwardly at his 2:2 from Cambridge.
23:19: Gentleman calls Griffin a “dick”.
23:20: Griffin cites the YouGov poll from June 2009.
Warsi picks him up on aslum seekers.
Warsi and gentleman in audience pick up on Straw’s remarks on immigration. Field is cited.
Warsi to Straw “You are in denial” about immigration.
Lousy debate on immigration. Warsi only one to hold Griffin and STraw to task.
22:26: Should the Daily Mail have published Steven Gately article?
Greer: Yes, but it was wrong.
Huhne: Yes, but I don’t approve of it.
Dimbleby picks up Warsi’s remarks in 2005 on homosexuals.
Warsi: Journalists need to take responsibility.
Griffin: “I am against the promotion of sex. I believe in the freedom of the press.”
Audience shout out about Griffin’s homophobia.
Straw: Daily Mail article was odious, but I support the Mail’s right to freedom of press.
Griffin laughs awkwardly.
23:53: Has QT been a Christmas present for the BNP?
Huhne: Clearly it has. I don’t want the broadcaster to decide who can and can not come on tv.
Warsi: No. I think the audience and public are repulsed by Griffin’s values. I am glad it happened.
Griffin is shaking and looks awkward. Won’t answer.
Straw: A catastophic week for the BNP.
“Griffin is a fantasising conspiracy theorist”.
Democracy lives! Griffin has not done as well as some thought.
Tags: BNP, Nick Griffin, Questions Time, Stolen Valour
youre telling me that was the GOOD bits pure dead brilliant
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I was so angry that Nick Griffin was not allowed to comment on todays economic and military commitments in Afghanistan, you know, the kind of questions normally seem on QT!
I have complained to the BBC about their biased tratment of the BNP along with thousands of others.
The whole programme was shameful, even Dimbleby was shockingly arrogant and rude towards his guest.
A BBC ambush – Bring Mr Griffin back for a serious debate!
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Unfortunatley the Labour government has driven racism by outdated and ‘politically correct’ policies that take into account the values and opinions of the minority far more than the majority. My girlfriend can’t sunbathe topless if I holiday in a Muslim country, she needs cover up and not wear normal western clothes which I fully respect and observe. Yet many immigrants refuse to learn English when arriving here. I cant go into a bank with a crash helmet on, yet a full burka is acceptable.. why the hell does a bank need to appreciate someones religion? where does it become relevant? these kind of small unfair ‘differences’ are many of the underlying things that are driving the BNP to become more powerful………. mainstream party’s just dont listen to British people anymore. I would consider myself middle class….. where will i put my vote now? hell knows, top of my agenda is immigration. Is Labour tackling it? no, Are the Tories? no. These times are very similar to how the Nazi party came to power in Germany. Normal German people losing there identity, values and voice because the government wouldn’t listen to them for fear of offending a minority somewhere. Well how about them facing up to the fact that they have offended the majority ever since they opened up UK soil to anyone. Australia has it right, and as soon as I can thats where im headed. Let the immigrants devolve this country back into a third world. They can have it.
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Thing is Asif is that, as AussieAl will tell you, Australia has problems too, in fact most white western type countries seem to have the same thing happening to one degree or another.
Whose to blame?
Well those white establishment politicians for a start.
Who has put what look like enabling powers into place for a dictatorship?
Step forward Bush, Blair & Brown.
Will the Conservatives (or Obama) reverse any of this?
Somehow I doubt it.
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“youre telling me that was the GOOD bits pure dead brilliant”
No shite for you Sam!
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WTF, I agree with you, Australia does have it’s problems….. but they are more internal than to do with immigration itself. I remember a few years back when a passenger ship was anchored off their coast full of refugees, to which they were all refused entry. Like it or not, it sends a clear message to the rest of the world. We do have a clear message in the UK and it is something along the lines of ‘Yes we’ll take you, feed and cloth you, educate you, care for you when you’re ill.. all for nothing, we don’t even care if you believe in our way of life or values’ I have no problem in allowing ‘my world brothers and sisters’ in if they have something to contribute….. but to take my taxes, want their own laws, denounce my religion, and abuse my way of life is something I cannot tolerate. When I am in Rome, I live as a Roman, I observe and respect the rules.
Our politicians are so out of touch with the real world, similar to the business I am in actually……. full of graduates with loads of university theory, yet no real world experience or people skills, oh and they cant make tough decisions.
My real fear is this: We all know the state of our youth, respect has gone, racism is definatley growing, 13 year olds are carrying knives.. and the young people are the ones most easily influenced. What are they going to be like when they reach adulthood? Will the misguided views of the BNP now manifest themselves within today’s unloved and disintrested kids… I think so, and when that day comes, racial violence will come to the streets.
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“13 year olds are carrying knives..”
That rings a bell, I bounced the twat off a bus shelter outside Leyton tube station.
He was using his younger brother to carry the knife.
He wouldn’t be the type of person to join the BNP though.
The engine of this is world population growth expected to hit 9 billion by 2050, that will be mainly amongst African & Moslem countries, so that will drive mass immigration to the west mainly.
Is a population of 71 million in the UK by 2018 acceptable?
What if peak oil theory is correct?
The carrying capacity of the planet would probably be 4 billion if we are lucky?
Maybe technology & science can provide an answer but don’t bet on it.
I’d like to go to Australia but they’d only let me in as a tourist, so one day maybe.
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LOOK AROUND YOU MUGS OAPS ARE FRIGHTENED TO COLLECT THERE PENSIONS FOR THE FEAR OF BEING MUGGED , POLICE PATROLLING COUNCIL ESTATES WITH GUNS INNER LONDON SCHOOLS COMPLETLY BLACK OR ASIAN POLITICIONS NICKING YOUR MONEY AND SAYING VERY SORRY BUT YOU ARE INOT GETTING IT BACK AND BEING PROMOTED TO THE HOUSE OF LORDS
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“13 year olds are carrying knives..”
Also fronted one in Barkingside few weeks back, gave me all the mouth with his mates and flashed a knife when I was driving past. Soon as I ripped up the handbrake, spun round, jumped out and put him up against the Co-Op window I got a ’sorry mister, I thought you were someone else’ whilst his mates all dissapeared very quickly. But If the Police saw I’d probably be under arrest for assault…. priorities all wrong again.
Just read the Peak Oil Theory, very interesting. Arabs are finished when it dries up, and because the idiots haven’t invested their riches very well, the west will feel the price when arab economies collapse and they ALL want to come here…. I’ll be long gone thank god.
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Asif
I think everyone will be affected if Peak Oil Theory pans out & the world population growth forecasts as well.
Mind you I hear there are towns in the Australian outback were you can go & nobody would come looking for you as they are a law unto themselves.
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