Bill Murray, SOTS Director and Leader of the BNP in Wales
“Soldiers off the Street“ (company number 07018818) is the latest and possibly most troublesome example of astroturfing (fake grassroots) by the BNP targeting veterans.
SOTS aims to care for veterans and aims to clothe, feed and provide shelter for homeless ex-servicemen. A noble cause.
However, the story doesn’t stop there. SOTS is run by the BNP husband and wife team, Bill and Marie Murray. Mr Murray is head of the BNP’s Welsh division and his wife is a seasoned activist for the extremist party. SOTS also works in association with FEBA (a Scottish veterans charity that accepted money from the BNP). Mr. Murray is, according to SOTS’s company records (available through companies house), Director and his wife is the Secretary.
Three weeks ago we reported SOTS to the Charities Commission and Trading Standards after we discovered it was claiming to seek charity status and for failing to mention its very close ties to the BNP.
In a letter to Dame Suzi Leather, Chair of the Charities Commission, we wrote that while, the objectives of SOTS were commendable, we were extremely concerned about its attempts to conceal its political connections and thus had the potential to solicit funds from the public under the false impression that it was an entirely unpolitical organisation with no associations to a political party.
In our letter we pressed for “urgent action” and for a thorough investigation. This week, we were informed by the Commission that it would be reporting back to us by October 10th. Trading Standards have acknowledged receipt of our letter but have not yet said whether they will be investigating.
As we have seen with Islamist “charities”, one concern is that members of the public are duped into donating money in good faith and that funds end up in the hands of extremists (in this case the BNP).
Another concern is the propaganda value of this association to BNP recruitment teams.
Lastly, we believe that fake organisations like SOTS that withhold information about their extremist links undermine the exceptional and genuinely selfless work of groups that are concerned for the welfare of our servicemen and women.
We hope that by reporting groups such as SOTS that socially-minded members of the public will be better protected from front organisations masquerading as authentic veteran groups.
Tags: Bill Murray, BNP, social action, Soldiers off the Street
they are underhand cheats and we should ban them,confidence tricksters of the bnp
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just like the conservatives and labour,both support the uaf, and yet our soldiers need help and the uaf are mindless thugs
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This is a pathetic attempt. Soldiers on the streets are in need of our help. Yet again we get a typical response because the BNP are involved, it must mean no good. BNP Scotland organiser is ex army so are a lot of their supporters and members.
What a pathetic attempt to stop our Soldiers from getting some help.
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I though being British was all about helping others in need, what are you doing “Nothing British” to help those more needy than yourself? All you do is sit there and moan about everyone else, why not get of your butt and help people more needy than yourself? then Britain might be a better place. Good luck to all charities or organisations that help our war heroes or any other people that are in need of help.
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You ask for donations, what happens to the money you receive. Are you a worthy cause. Why not give your donations to a charity, what about great olmand street, do you have a problem with them because someone you do not like might have donated to them?
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that’s right Martin, where does the money that this “antibritish” website end up?
they solicit money yet are an anonomous and shadowy group that are no doubt a front for the tories.
the BNP must have them running scared over there, otherwise they would not be throwing the resources into defaming BNP supporters as they do in all of these articles!
i urge anyone who supports the sentiment espoused by the BNP to join and become involved in the “revolution to reclaim Britain”, otherwise your islands will be lost to the massive influx of migration, which is occuring at a greater pace than ever seen before
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Oh dear, you will come a cropper on this one. The person you have named resigned from the BNP just so he could concentrate on this charity, which he felt was more important than politics.
Do try to stay up with the rest of the class.
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if the bnp are such a “party of the people”why would the scum collecting charity money not inform “the People” they allegedly are the party of,that they are collecting money for veterans,and are under the tentacles of the bnp,would it be something to do with cowardice perhaps?
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Thanks for that info, GA. Pretty much assures this hate-act shan’t succeed.
Tim Montgomerie, James Bethell and other people associated with this site should be ashamed: trying to sabotage a charity whose work they describe as laudable merely because (they believe) its directors are members of a rival political party. And their primary objection to that political party: it’s whiteness. Racism defined.
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I think we should commend their selfless devotion and hardwork. Our servicemen deserve better than they receive from the major parties. I can see, read or smell nothing, I repeat nothing, extreme about the BNP. I am not a member and have never previously voted for them, but I will next time.
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oh no that means they ll get over the hundred votes now
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what is the definition of confusion?
….. fathers day in brixton
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Sam why the need to call people names like scum, when you dont even know the people, you make yourself look like a silly little boy that has no real argument.
Thanks for the info GA. Its always the same when it comes to anti-BNP stories they just dive in without doing any actual research.
Have a nice weekend sam and relax.
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i am relaxed,my whole life dosent revolve around hating ethnic minorities,so kenny you relax coz the big bad muslim isny coming for you
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YET
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the auld prick in the photo lokks like the guy out of the hills have eyes,if this is what 100% britishness looks like ,thank heaven for multi culturism
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‘i am relaxed,my whole life dosent revolve around hating ethnic minorities,so kenny you relax coz the big bad muslim isny coming for you’
Neither does mine, i have no problems with ethnic minorities, ask my chinese neighbours i am more than happy to help them out when they come to my door, my son has a mixed race cousin. I have a problem with the amount of immigration comming in to this country and the reason its happening.
Whats with the big bad muslim, Edinburgh does not have a problem with extreme islam, so there will be no big bad muslim coming for me. But there you go again sam trying to make out that i hate ethnics and muslims just because i support the BNP, best of it is you dont even know me, you are just making assumptions. You are the one that always brings race and colour up in your comments. Grow up sam and stop comming out with utter rubbish.
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True to form, ‘Nothing British’ about the Tories who seem to be more concerned about attacking people trying to help our neglected soldiers, than actually doing anything about it thmeselves?
I detest NuLab and look forward to seeing them being kicked out next May but I am really struggling with Cameron’s Conservative party if this is an example of where their priorities lie.
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Ah well, I’ve made my donation to SOTS!
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kenny youre the one who started judging me because i DONT support the bnp,but to deny that the youre a racist actually stinks of cowardice,which although you try deflect the fact away from yourself onto me ,i ve no problem declaring my loathing of racist/fascism,have you informed your chinese neighbour that you detest the fact he is your neighbour and you wish for him to be deported back to china…..no….thought so
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cmon sam, you really read between the lines dont you!
just because people dont share your warm, fuzzy view of the world, doesnt make them a racist, fascist, homophobe, sheep shagger,nazi, etc…
although there are nice looking sheep in new zealand and i hear in wales too
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just because you see the world as Black v White,and think we should all live like Romper Stomper dosent make every one who dosent share you ideoligies a “Red” or a”Commie” or a “maoist” or any other demeaning names you have for anti racist anti fascist Scotmen like myself
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Sam, Do you have any friends in the real world? I do not mean people you talk to over the net, real human beings. I think you should get out more, you sound like a person who beleives in all sort of conspiracy theories. It’s not good for your soul.
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‘,have you informed your chinese neighbour that you detest the fact he is your neighbour and you wish for him to be deported back to china…..no….thought so’
God you are something else, did you read my comment. My chinese neighbour is a very good friend of mine who i like to help out. Also why should i wish for him to go back to china, I am very happy with him, his wife and son as a neighbours and as a friend. I dont care where you call me a racist, nazi or facist as i know that I am not any of these buzz words that you use, all because i support the BNP. But you carry on as it just makes the supporters of this site look stupid.
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If Tony Blair becomes EU President is there any point voting Conservative as you’ll be taking your orders from Tony anyway?
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now that the irish have ratified lisbon, that looks a reality, and unless the eu take a unified position on the waves of mass migration, you can kiss that institution goodbye and welcome the african union with open arms!
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No point arguing with the facists they feed of hate and fear history tells us that many a time. Just spread the word that ignorance brings about war and hate leads to violence.
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I think instead of all branding people racist or not,you have to realise that this country is over crowded and too full,we need to stop all immigration into this country,if that is racist,im one then,we have over 6 million people idle,a benifits culture that is out of control,and we are trying to make everybody a supermarket shelf filler,china makes 75% of the worlds toys,
and we worry about branding little boys racist for playing war games,this country willl be usurped by the east the the lily livered liberals can crow,we setout to destro a great nation and we have
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surely this “great” nation was founded on the many different cultures that have successfully integrated into society
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But the problem is having cultures who have no intention of integrating into our society, who intend to dominate it instead.
You either believe that or not, I firmly do, having lived in an area where it happened & see signs of it happening elsewhere.
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you think you have it bad in britain, come over here to see how a harmonious homogeneous society has changed within 40 years, all due to a mass migration without any emphasis on intergration
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That seems to be happening all over the place including outside of Europe in what were seen as white countries.
How is that co-ordinated & why?
That then takes you into the realm of NWO conspiracy theories.
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because we have turned into a society of gutless c#^ts who have become paralysed by the spectre of fascism in world war 2 and its resultant aftermath.
as a result the lefty wankers took over the political debate in the 1960s and have infiltrated all levels of decision making and opinion forming ever since…and heaven help you if you disagree with their dogma, you WILL be branded a racist!
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So a website which claims, going by the name, that there’s nothing British about the BNP has reported that a group connected to them is trying to “clothe, feed and provide shelter for homeless ex-servicemen.”
Yep, absolutely nothing British about that at all.
D’oh!!
However I will make the point that as good as the intention and cause of this group is, it really shouldn’t be needed, there should already be something in place, I mean heck, they’re only risking their lives for our country, no biggie.*
Or would it be wrong of our government to provide this for a bunch of “butchers”?
*I’m well aware that the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan aren’t really anything to do with us, but these brave soldiers would gladly put themselves on the front line should anything come along to truly threaten us.
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surely this “great” nation was founded on the many different cultures that have successfully integrated into society
Yes Sam that is true to some degree but ‘integrated’ is the key word here, most of the migrants coming into the UK have no intention of or desire to integrate with us, yet unless we pander to their every whim we are branded uncaring racists.
The problem in this country of course is that idiots like you do not understand what is going on around them, our boys deserve all the help we can give them, personally I think it’s great that the BNP or those connected to them are helping as Labour only seem to like sending billions of pounds of taxpayers money to the third world which obviously doesn’t do alot of good as they are still desperate to get here!
Perhaps if you are going to spend your entire life commenting on every article on this site you should consider going back to school to learn some English?
I will now await the customary ’scum’ ‘nazi’ ‘knuckledragger’ tirade reserved for everyone who disagrees with you (that’s a prolonged outburst of bitter, outspoken denunciation Sam…)
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I think its disgusting that you are attacking this organisation because he was in the bnp. You are hate mongerors with sad insignificant lives who should get your facts right. I hope this article bights you on the ass
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I have just had a long conversation on the phone with Soldiers Off The Street (their contact details are available on their website)
I am confident that they are genuine and are doing a great job, I have now donated and will be donating whenever I can. All the rumours going around about them being a front for the bnp is C###. He did leave the party and wasn’t thrown out, he is trying to do something positive with his life and all you (nothingbritish) can do is spread your poisonous lies, but he is not giving up and will never give up, our homeless soldiers deserve better than they are getting and I wished him all the luck.
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Is it our soldiers that you have a problem with? Is it the fact that organisations like Soldiers off the street are highlighting the failure of Britain in looking after our ex personnel, just one more failure in a growing list.
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maybe Nothing British should campaign to get better treatment for our ex service personnel and organisations to help them will not be needed.
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What evidence do you have to support your claims, please share otherwise they are not breaking the law so what’s the point of this hate filled article. Is it just to make you feel big and help with your nightly masturbation.
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Diane Leech is now the bnp’s charity fundraiser, they are realy are using the soldiers to try and get political gain, scum.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/European-Elections-Voter-On-Why-She-Chose-The-British-National-Party/Video/200906215298822?lpos=video_Article_Related_Content_Region_4&lid=VIDEO_15298822_European_Elections%3A_Voter_On_Why_She_Chose_The_British_National_Party
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She’s a liar, “first time she voted for bnp” I’ve seen videos of Leech at the 2008 RWB. bnp cannot tell the truth, they are mentally challanged, a 2 year old has more brain than all of them put together. Wake up and smell the roses.
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bnp’s charity fund raiser. my post was deleted so here it is again.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/European-Elections-Voter-On-Why-She-Chose-The-British-National-Party/Video/200906215298822?lpos=video_Article_Related_Content_Region_4&lid=VIDEO_15298822_European_Elections%3A_Voter_On_Why_She_Chose_The_British_National_Party
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just incase it gets deleted again here it is with out the http on the front
news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/European-Elections-Voter-On-Why-She-Chose-The-British-National-Party/Video/200906215298822?lpos=video_Article_Related_Content_Region_4&lid=VIDEO_15298822_European_Elections%3A_Voter_On_Why_She_Chose_The_British_National_Party
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just incase it gets deleted again here it is without the http on the front.
news.sky.com/skynews/Home/video/European-Elections-Voter-On-Why-She-Chose-The-British-National-Party/Video/200906215298822?lpos=video_Article_Related_Content_Region_4&lid=VIDEO_15298822_European_Elections%3A_Voter_On_Why_She_Chose_The_British_National_Party
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This ‘blog’ is an absolute disgrace and the founder needs to get a grip on reality.
It is such a shame there are so many people in this country that are blind to the truth. Blinded by the teachings of the brainwashed PC brigade.
Groups like the BNP exist BECAUSE of racism. Racism aimed at real British people. Racists supported by the likes of the government and union funded UAF.
I’d like to know exactly what the UAF do apart from disrupt BNP meetings. They certainly have no other purpose and the sooner they are stamped out the better.
As for Soldiers off the Streets, I and many others support their cause. Our soldiers deserve the respect we give them. They need help and neither this government, nor the Conservatives – if they get in – so wrongly deny them any help, yet they pander to immigrants and spend millions of our hard earned cash supporting them and their ever growing brood.
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this blog exists because the tories are worried about losing votes in crucial areas.
instead of deriding their fellow britons they should perhaps come up with decent policies to stem the flood of third world migrants
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they are mentally challanged
If we are so mentally challenged then can somebody please tell me why most of the anti BNP posts appear to be written by those with a mental age of around 8?
At least we appear to be able to spell, maybe it’s you who is challenged John…
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I have to wonder what the Charities Commission’s reaction was to this “disgusting” news, tell you what, I’ll say it was one of the following two:
1. They said “Well they’re helping our ex-servicemen find food and shelter, what’s the problem?”
2. They said “They’re connected to the BNP?! This won’t stand!! This group must be de-registered and not allowed to operate any more!”
Now, being realistic (I know those of you in the anti-BNP brigade seem to have a problem with that but please try your best) which one of those do you think is more likely?
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Thank you Green Arrow for the Truth.
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http://www.thegreenarrow.co.uk/index.php/writers/arrow-straight/303-soldiers-off-the-street-and-nothing-british
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is it just me or can anyone else see through the british nazi party,s cynical explotation of joe publics emotional concsience concerning the military
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I don’t see how a charity that serves ex soldiers who are in such obvious need can be a bad thing. I gather Mr Murray is no longer a BNP member as he believes this cause should transcend politics. The real shame of it all is that the govt have allowed these ex servicemen to be in such a dreadful position. Perhaps if the govt looked after them after getting them blown up, etc. this charity would not be needed. It is the govt that are a disgrace, not Bill Murray.
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I am a British muslim and although I am against the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan I do feel sorry for all victims of the conflict on all sides. It’s not as though British soldiers want to go. The strange thing is that, as opposed to some other muslims, I am of the belief that it is the 3 establishment parties that wanted these wars. Indeed, the only political party who have stated they will pull the troops out are the BNP and I have to say that holds a certain appeal to me. I am third generation British and do not feel threatened by this political party. Perhaps we should listen to what Mr Griffin has to say on Question Time on 22nd October.
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ahmed,you are a true british person and the voice of reason,well said pal .
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sam, what a backflip by you! previously, you have been vehemently opposed to giving Griffin a voice on Question Time and have derided the BNP at every turn. Ahmed Rahma states he does not feel threatened by the BNP, does this mean you too have come to the opinion that the BNP are not a threat to britain or to people living in britain?
or do you still suffer from the delusion that they are neo nazis?
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[...] secretary of the BNP in Wales SOTS, the homeless veterans organisation run by former BNP officer Bill Murray, has offered this reply through the BNP blog The Green Arrow, which is run by the political [...]
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Ahmed Rahma
I have total respect for you Sir, you’re a genuine human being who sees through the lies of the 3 political Parties.Your a 3rd generation Muslim whos home is Great Britain,this makes you as patriotic as myself,to me,we are equal and both share the same ideas about our country…………….you sound like a nationalist and so you should be,its your country,lets be proud of it.
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aussie ,ahmed is only saying that we shouldnt ban the british nazi party from political debate as it only makes them more attractive to the uneducated zombies that support them
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[...] Friday 2nd October 2009 “false statements” were made about you and SOTS via our blog (http://www.nothingbritish.com/10/nb-reports-new-bnp-front-to-charities-commission/). According to the statement, you set up SOTS after leaving the British National Party and that you [...]
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Hello Sam Pauli,
I don’t wish to cherry pick so sorry if it sounds as though I am, but I didn’t say we shouldn’t ban them (BNP) from political debate although I agree with you that we shouldn’t. However, I don’t see them as Nazi’s either as they’re the ones who want the troops back home (far from Hitlerian if you ask me). Other of their policies actually make sense to me too (health, education and nationalisation of utilities).
As a 3rd generation muslim living in Britain I feel more threatened by the huge numbers of immigrants coming in at the moment. Many of these are making large demands of the benefits system and seeking to change society into the 3rd world. I am a taxpayer and feel no need for any special dispensations for any minority group. I class myself as British and my parents and grandparents have always been thankful of the opportunity to come and live in this country. To that end I fully respect the British way of life and am happy with it. Sadly the same cannot be said for the mainstream parties who seem determined to destroy a culture and society that I now class as my own. This is another reason the Nationalists appeal to me.
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I think Ahmed is correct in what he is saying & that chimes with my concerns, it is this problem of mass immigration of people who don’t want to integrate, but also it is actually the fault of white politicians who have forced this upon us & it is happening in many other countries as well.
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ahmed ,i do respect your opinion,but what if 3 generations ago,the bnp where about ,and stopped your family from emigrating to the uk,then you and your family wouldnt have been able to integrate ,because you wouldnt have been allowed to come.
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To be honest they weren’t needed then (Yes Sam I know what you will say to that!) but they had Enoch Powell or Winston Churchill before that.
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Sam,
I believe the current BNP policy to be to allow people with the required skills into Britain. However, I am quite mindful of the fact that Britons are not given such freedoms to enter permanently to countries in the Middle East & North Africa where Islam is prevalent. Neither are they pandered to or allowed to practice their religions or culture freely. I don’t believe the BNP will stop muslims going to a mosque and will not deport those who are legitimately here, particularly those who have integrated into society as I have. Britain is now full and economically it is suicide to allow more people in. And I quite like walks in the countryside which is being eroded by building projects to house more people from abroad. It wouldn’t be so bad but there are no jobs for them so their only income will be from taxpayers such as myself. Basically, this country needs to look inwards to survive and that is in my interest too (and also many muslim friends of mine).
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jeez Ahmed, you do make sense and i sincerely hope you are the tip of the proverbial iceberg
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fair play to you ahmed,but be careful what you wish for!
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I take my hat off to you Ahamed,its nice to hear common sense from the British Asian community who really appreciate the Great British way of life.As a BNP member,i would like to see more Asians vote/join the BNP,it has NOTHING to do with religion,colour or creed.
The Political 3 parties are running scared at the moment because, what they are doing to us all,is not what we want.
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Be careful what you wish for
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Yeah I could wish Gordon dead but knowing my luck he would fall out of a window onto my head.
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my same wish applies to auld Nick!maybe he ll fall on your head instead,would that be your perfect way to die or what?
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Hmm no!
If he fell on me he might live & that is obviously not what you want.
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[...] up Zion.” Activists are expecting the support of sympathetic organisations such as Soldiers off the Street (Bill Murray, director of SOTS, has said that he will be present) and the BNP’s Scottish [...]
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true ,if we comprimise and YOU fall on his head,he dies,you spend a few weeks trussed up in hospital,sue the bnp,then we re all happy
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No I will settle for falling on Gordon’s head!
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Arrgh, no I didn’t fall out of the window, its the spamkiller.
I’ll settle for falling on Gordon’s head instead!
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No no I’ll fall on Gordon’s head & we’ll all be happy!
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nick griffin to fall on gordons head?happy days
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[...] such as Bill Murray, former secretary of the Welsh BNP and Director of Soldiers off the Street, in their quarrels with anti-BNP campaigners over their links to the extremist [...]
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As a BNP supporter well said Ahmed Rahma.
1. Immigration is crippling everybody.
2. The current bunch of political parties cannot represent the people anymore.
It needs new groups too form representing what that groups want and for muslims it is a muslim party. Ditto for a few other groups then let communication begin.
3. If what Andrew Neather said is half true, then everybody that is in this country has been sold down the river with such a divided society.
4. Conservative policy is now directed too who will vote for them and that means nothing for me again, getting used too that now. Bit like the last election when Labour’s Harriet Harman ran round after the Polish vote.
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Ahmed Rahma is talking a lot of sense lol in a less confrontational way than me perhaps…. can he be my buddy at the red white and blue festival ? ill take fellists left hand and Ahmad his right and we can skip round the maypole. we can be like a dairylea sandwich in brown bread. lol
You see there you have it i am 1st generation ahmed is 3rd and mlj likes him
wow thats progress Ahmed to replace “dick” griffin. youd get more votes lol
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Do you want to help soldiers living on the streets or not? I think all this stuff about the BNP is an attempt to deflect attention from your own organisation. DO YOU REALLY DO ANYTHING FOR SOLDIERS LIVING ON THE STREETS? You seeem more interested in waffling about the BNP. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves.
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