Peter Hain MP
We believe the remarks made by Peter Hain MP about the BNP’s appearance on QT are self-serving and play straight into Nick Griffin’s hands. The Secretary of State for Wales has warned the BBC that its invitation to the BNP to appear on QT may be “unlawful”.
Mr Hain has written to BBC director general Mark Thompson arguing the BNP was “an unlawful body” following a court ruling on its membership policy.
Hain said the decision should be reconsidered in light of a legal case about ethnic restrictions on the BNP’s membership rules.
Labour Partyleaders and other so called “anti-fascists” may be queuing up to prove their noble abhorrence to racism now. But the irony of their protests are that they are to blame for the BNP’s appearance on QT. The BNP, with a million votes, two MEPs and nearly 50 councillors, has more of a right to be on there than some previous guests.
If Hain & co don’t wish the BNP to be a part of the political fabric of society they should start by addressing the concerns of ordinary people.
Tags: BBC, Nick Griffin, Peter Hain, Question Times
They should make Peter Hain illegal!
I asked him once how he thought South Africa was going, remember South Africa, Peter?
I am still waiting for an answer but I guess hell hasn’t frozen over just yet.
It was a cause dear to your heart at one time, the creation of a happy rainbow nation?
WTF went wrong Peter?
Still with your appalling track record, I guess that means the BNP will in No 10 before you know it.
Perhaps you should just learn to shut the **** up!
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Make Peter Hain Illegal!
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Foolish man: I’m sure Griffin is already set to make hay on QT with the hypocrisy of the EHRC’s tolerance of certain Black Police Associations’ membership rules (and many other kinds of orgs) while they tried to outlaw the one organisation that dared speak for white folk.
Now Griffin’s complaint will have an added punch: the BNP are merely an independent organisations: those Police Associations that also were ‘unlawful bodies’ (if the BNP were) are public bodies funded by the taxpayer and its members are charged with bringing law and order to the streets!
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WTF: “Make Peter Hain Illegal!”
He is. Support for terrorism is illegal — it just goes unpunished if the terror is directed at the state’s designated enemies.
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If the Conservatives were brave hearts & not faint hearts, they could finish the BNP off in the way that Thatcher saw off the NF, by stealing their territory.
But if the BNP charge that the Conservatives are just one head on Cerberus the three headed dog with one body & that it is all the same lies with different colour ties, then they haven’t got a hope in hell of doing that.
Maybe they will go down the Gordon route of persecution, a bit like Hitler when he slowly excluded the Jews from society, maybe BNP members will have to register & wear a badge on their arms, then they will be banned from certain shops or professions……..
Couldn’t happen here, could it?
You see the BNP talk about leaving the EU & stopping mass immigration & all the wasted money, where nobody else even looks like doing anything approaching that.
People believe that the BNP will actually do those things, they don’t believe anyone else will get a grip.
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the bnp are ill…..in the head
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Peter Hain became chairman of the Stop the Seventy Tour Campaign which disrupted tours by the South African Rugby Union and cricket teams in 1969 and 1970. A 1972 private prosecution brought by Francis Bennion in regard to his leadership of the illegal direct action interference with the tours resulted in a ten day Old Bailey Trial with the jury failing to agree on three charges and hence he was acquitted on those charges, but Peter Hain was found guilty of Criminal Conspiracy and fined £200. He appealed against the conviction in 1973. The Court of Appeal dismissed his appeal with costs. As reported in the Daily Telegraph of 23 October 1973, the court said his conviction was ‘fully justified’. Lord Justice Roskill said Hain had not elected to give evidence, adding ‘He gave no explanation of his part over the incidents with which he was charged’. In 1976 Hain was tried for, and acquitted of, a 1974 bank robbery, allegedly having been framed by South African intelligence agents.
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…attempting to shoot the messanger instead of fixing the problem. These ageing hippy, left wing deadshits caused the problems in the first place, with their drug induced dreams of utopia.
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all very un-interesting
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But relevant.
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how?a guy with an alleged “criminal record” almost 40 years ago is relevant today about stopping the rise of fascism in its tracks,the mind boggles,pass me the buckfast.
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Since when was being a member of a political party a requirement for appearing on QT?
Not all of the guests have always been “whiter than white” which certainly aplies to some members of other parties.
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The BNP’s reaction to the court case, in suspending new members joining until a new constitution be approved (which may be scheduled for the tomorrow that never comes) keepos the organisation legal. Hain’s ambition and ideological blinkeredness has allowed him to be manipulated.
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Cohen up to his usual trick of trying to conflate the BNP with Respect and the Christian People’s Alliance. Its lazy journalism. Respect may or may not have have some Islamist/communalist influence within it, but has never stood on a explicitly racist manifesto, as the BNP has. Whether one agrees with Respect or not, it has very different roots to the BNP, and its explicit aims are much more influenced by the SWP. The SWP, for all its faults, and there are many, are not white supremacists, racists, Nazis, or thugs with criminal convictions.
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“how?a guy with an alleged “criminal record” almost 40 years ago is relevant today”
Because I could argue that he is responsible for a form of Fascism today, whether it be here or in South Africa.
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Actually it is probably closer to Stalinism, so that’s ok then.
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here we go again..if your not a racist fascist you must be a commie,same auld chestnut…it never changes,agree with the bnp you hippy commie or we ll get you….what awonderful fan base the “firm” have got
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That’s not what I am saying as I don’t accuse you of being either, but I am saying Peter Hain is involved with extremists whatever they might be called, his ever more desperate attempts to shut the BNP up seem to prove that.
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IS involved with extremists,who are these people then
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are you honestly saying S.A. is run by a fascist govt.eh?
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“IS involved with extremists,who are these people then”
LieBore of course!
“are you honestly saying S.A. is run by a fascist govt.eh?”
Maybe but it is corrupt & a lot of what goes on looks pretty fascist or Stalinist to me.
Haven’t you seen the pictures of white farmers gruesomely murdered & persecuted?
Maybe you feel the white farmers should hand over the land to the blacks but I bet it will go the way of Zimbabwe.
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“IS involved with extremists,who are these people then”
LieBore of course!
“are you honestly saying S.A. is run by a fascist govt.eh?”
No but it is corrupt & a lot of what goes on looks pretty fascist or Stalinist to me.
Haven’t you seen the pictures of white farmers gruesomely murdered & persecuted?
Maybe you feel the white farmers should hand over the land to blacks but I bet it will go the way of Zimbabwe.
jj
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As usual the answer is in the spam bin.
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whatever happened to free speech
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Maurice seems to believe in it, he’s just fished my answers out of the bin!
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we could bring all the white farmers to britain….wouldnt here a lot of immigration debate then would we?
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Not true, because the whole Polish influx allowed the problem of mass immigration to be discussed without the usual screams of racism.
As I said before if a load of Boers speaking Afrikaans turn up then there could be problems.
I remember a case in East London years ago of a confrontation between a Boer type & some blacks resulting in him being pushed to his death under a lorry.
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he probably wound the blacks up,degraded them,just like home
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Possibly the word “Kaffir” got mentioned?
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every chance of it
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So it’s ok to chuck someone under a lorry because they say the wrong thing?That sounds pretty extreme to me.
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Yes it is extreme but that is how things are now.
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oh.. all extremists are equal. It is just that some are more equal than others.
One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter, but i dont see any evidence of the BNP acting in anything other than a lawful manner. Yet the deluded extreme left still try and deride them as fascist, but they probably all love hugo chavez and fidel castro
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Peter Hain is a total wanker and also was nearly convicted of bank robbery many years ago. He represents all that is bad about the Labour party and their marxist supporters.
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Interesting that this site lauds a convicted criminal (criminal conspiracy). How trustworthy!
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acorn..do you think the muslims will eventually conker england….hopefully!
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Sorry Sam, I do not have a crystal ball. Ask me if I believe Peter Hain is a bank robber.
I believe in democracy. If all parties were treated equally, we would all be better off. Argue with people. Destroy their arguments. The ancient people of Salem would recognise this frenzy.
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Acorn. This site lauds ‘Peter Hain’???? What planet are you on? Have you read what it says at the top where it says his remarks are ’self-serving’…
Whilst I think Peter Hain is odious I happen to think the BNP is far more odious and I’m looking forward to one-eyed fat boy Griffin getting destroyed tonight. The debate about the oxygen of publicity comes in though because he has shown himself as a repeated liar and contradictor of himself. And sadly, some people believe him and his nasty lies.
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“Sam Pauli says:
October 22, 2009 at 11:52 am
acorn..do you think the muslims will eventually conker england….hopefully!”
That old chestnut eh?
Well if they do, Scotland will be next.
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dont think acorn got it,maybe he was out his tree !
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“If you tolerate this Scotland will be next”..manic street preachers or was it sterophonics cant remember
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muslims aint conkering anyone…. I know enough of them to be the authority here today. like most faiths its getting watered down by consumerism and western ideals. We all worship at the altar of big tv’s, interest free leather sofa.
mobile phone upgrade, Brand new car every 3 yrs. holiday to sharm el sheik.
Bollox to it all. Christmas is coming soon. what a farce buy buy buy.
MONEY IS THE NEW RELIGION.!!!
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I think the MSP’s sung about your children being next.
Not the members of the Scottish Parliament though.
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shove your tory,labour lib dem up your arse these toffs do not speak your man in the street.even labour these days is run by snobby idiots who dont appeal to your regular man/woman on the street
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Well due to the flood of immigrants LieBore have deliberately brought into this country, they literally can’t talk to the man in the street as he doesn’t talk English!
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Clearly Peter Hain is a undemocratic Nazi.
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South Africa there’s a country he helped ruin earlier!
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Peter Hain is just reliving his youth when he fought against apartheid in SA. Wonderful place that is now…no doubt he can’t wait for the UK to follow suit!
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If I had one wish it would be that Peter Hain lives a poor retirement in the rainbow nation he helped create, he could be shown gratitude on a daily basis as he begs in a shanty town.
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What do you make of the message of support he sent to the UAF? Does he really think it’s ok to unleash thugs onto the streets when power station protestors are man-handled by police and arrested 10 hours before the protest is even due to start? And animal rights protestors are very badly treated too.
I have read that Dave is also behind the UAF???
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ycv aye we know what side you support.
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I am glad nobody takes Peter too seriously.
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