An interesting article on the BNP’s financing machine. This is for those of you who want to know who’s bankrolling the BNP.
This is an undercover video of Nick Griffin talking about the former leader of the BNP, John Tyndall.
The BNP branches out into Oxfordshire
The BNP have announced how they have started campaigning in Oxfordshire. The party is desperate to shed its image as a northern mill town party.
Tags: Nick Griffin
It is strange that a Conservative website should get so much info from extreme left wing websites, very strange bedfellows & seems to confirm the BNP charge that the mainstream parties are all the same thing, working to the same agendas.
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For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction…. I wouldnt have belived that BNP supporters would be on here … Im going on stormfront lol
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The organisers of this site have only one agenda. It’s not to address any of the problems facing the UK or even admitting that there are any. All they want is to denigrate a legal political party.They go to the BNP website to sneak and snitch.
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We are united in at least one belief… Tories are SHIT. Im dreading the new reign of the conservative party. Hey MLJ you mentioned that guy who went crazy in texas on the army base.. Thats why we dont need people to have assault rifles in their homes as suggested by the BNP. What happened there could happen at a playground/Supermarket/mosque/church near you at any given moment. I own guns (Im a country boy now) and they are sporting shotguns(my wife hates them being in the house). There is no conceivable reason why anyone should have assault rifles at home. That kind of rate of fire could wipe out a kindergarten in 30 seconds… And it would happen eventually.
Second point its emerging that the guy was getting grief for his middle eastern origins..moral of the story dont pick on people in a country where you can buy guns and ammunition at Asda(wal mart)
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the torys seem to be a dead certainty to win the election, and this website is an attempt to shore up tory flanks, so that they do not lose votes to the BNP.
nothinbritish about these cheap shots at a legal political entity
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Dont for one minute think there is no support for the BNP in the Army,let me put your minds at rest,90% of the Army support the BNP.
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” I wouldnt have belived that BNP supporters would be on here”
Us pesky blighters get everywhere!
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AussieAl
I didn’t realise the Conservatives had as many feet as a centipede but they shoot themselves in the feet so many times they must have!
Monty Python had a song about “Every sperm is sacred” before the singer sells his kids for medical experiments & so for the Tories “Every vote is sacred” hence this site & they’ll probably sell us all for medical experiments as well!
After some of things that Dave has said & done, there seems to be a reluctance shown by the voters not getting enthusiastic about the Conservatives, there is already talk of a hung parliament.
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Ahh I just realised when somebody talked about a “Hung” parliament they might have been talking about stringing them all up!
What with talk of pay rises & wriggling out of reforms, the voters might consider that as an option.
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Now that Dave has to admit he has very little room for manoeuvre regarding the Lisbon stitch-up I reckon a lot of people will look to vote for BNP and Ukip. I think there are a few new parties as well. It could lead to quite an interesting situation.I just want to see Liebour SO trounced.
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so if the BNP do get a couple of seats, in a hung parliament they might be able to exert more influence than otherwise.
even more reason for ditherers to vote BNP (alas, i am unable to do so )
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“The party is desperate to shed its image as a northern mill town party.”
What’s wrong with Mill Towns? What’s wrong with spreading the message across the UK and giving British people a right of political representation?
The same ridiculous quote could easily have been made about the Labour Party in times gone by, and probably was by the same regressive “Establishment”.
The difference today however is that, unlike the Labour Party, the BNP will NEVER abandon the British people nor will it engage in treasonous activities.
If the BNP were so wrong you could ignore it because no-one would vote for it.
It is because it it SO RIGHT that you have to attack it so violently, just like the creatures of every Dictatorship that has ever existed.
The British people have rumbled you.
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Vor we are everywhere,we have sleepers giving us info on everthing.
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The BNP website is the only place where you can see the real news – backed up by videos.
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Yup they are either paid Afghans or they are british Agents whose heritage lies in afghanistan/Pakistan/Iran. We have linguists sat behind desks deciphering enemy transmissions. That kind of stuff is best left to british Asians who speak and understand Pashtun/Arabic/Farsi/Urdu/punjabi easier than any “John smith” who learnt the language. I had a good long conversation with a bloke outside a pub in pashtun (he was taught prior to being posted) i was impressed. Hearts and minds wont work but it was good to see people are being trained well (even though it would be nice if they were equipped well too)
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Can somebody tell me how this Tory anti-BNP website is any different to the various Marxist “UAF” and Searchlight organisations?
Also, isn’t it a little embarrassing that most of the comments are pro BNP?
Just for the record – my impression of BNP members (I’ve met a fair few now) is that they are decent, informed, intelligent and brave people. Just the sort Churchill would have approved of.
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“Can somebody tell me how this Tory anti-BNP website is any different to the various Marxist “UAF” and Searchlight organisations?”
I can’t.
“Also, isn’t it a little embarrassing that most of the comments are pro BNP?”
I don’t know if they are pro BNP as a party. They do seem to show that many feel that the main parties have betrayed the nation. I agree with the BNP on some things and disagree on others. I do object to the witch-hunting against your party which shows double standards in many ways. As a former card-carrying member of the Scottish Conservative and Unionists, I feel that they no longer represent me and that sertain issues are not represented democratically in our nation.
I know a number of respectable, professional people who will vote BNP in the next election. They are just too afraid to say so openly. That fear reflects badly on our nation, especially as those who cause it claim to be democratic, open-minded and just. What hypocrisy. The BNP will get my vote.
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Acorn welcome,That southpole comment made by a ungrateful Asian,on question time 22/10/09/swung many people behind the BNP,IT WAS A VEILED THREAT TO THE REAL BRITISH.
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Muslims been here since 1641,what a load of tripe,The ones that were here,were the Barbary pirates captured by the then royalist forces then Cromwells men,who hung them all.
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I wonder how many uaf scum and their muslim mates went to a cenotaph or wore a poppy.THATS RIGHT NONE.THERE IS NOTHING BRITISH ABOUT THEM.
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How ridiculous to suggest who didnt wear a poppy and who did.. So one man on a mission managed to deduce that not a single muslim wore a poppy. Utterly ridiculous did you go on a fact finding mission to check every muslim??
But you are still prepared to make the statement “THATS RIGHT NONE”
The whole thing about muslims is the BNP trying to avoid the fact that if they said “BLACKS” they would be in court again.
Finally to go round recruiting people to join the BNP or even to solicit opinion as to who would vote bnp at the next election on rememberance sunday on a day that is meant to show respect and remember war dead is frankly disguisting.
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I have to say my observations of being near Whitehall & on the “Tube” was that it is mainly older white people wearing the Poppy.
I have never seen an obvious Moslem wear one.
I saw some Asians near a memorial with poppies but I am certain they were ex services.
I am pretty certain some Sikhs & Hindus would as well.
The truth is most of the ethnic minorities & recent immigrants in this country don’t seem to care about the issue, despite all the sacrifices VoR has talked about, it seems it is mainly white people who remember, maybe it is different around his way, I hope so.
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Just got this article from the british legion. They turned down an official donation from the BNP the following may help to explain why.
Ninety one years ago on the 11th November, the guns fell silent ending the First World War of 1914 – 1918, a global event affecting lives across continents. Men from many countries volunteered or were called up to fight, whilst the Navies (regular and merchant) tried to keep supplies arriving and the women replaced men in the work place or waited anxiously for their men to return. The casualties from that conflict stretched into the millions.
At the time the British Armed forces were some of the most diverse in the world, comprising those from across the British Isles – England, Wales Scotland and Ireland; the Commonwealth – Australia and New Zealand; and the Empire – India, Africa, the Caribbean and China; they all contributed to the fighting that took place.
It would be wrong to say that all those who contributed were treated equally or fairly. Racism and prejudice were just as prevalent in the armed forces as the rest of the society of the time. But the magnitude of that conflict meant that some prejudices were challenged and interaction normalized. Walter Tull a black British footballer before the war became the first Black officer in the British Army. Indian troops injured fighting in France on the Western Front were hospitalized in Brighton Pavilion and visited by royalty. VC’s (the highest award for bravery) were awarded to at least 14 Empire troops and those troops collectively received over 13,000 decorations for bravery.
Across the world the cemeteries from that conflict and others lay as a testament to the diversity of the forces. Having fought together, the men from across the British Isles and the world representing all the main faiths – Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist and no faith, are remembered and buried together – equal in death.
All their contributions, including those that returned home should be valued. The Royal British Legion was formed 2 years after the First World War to provide support for the men who returned home and the families of those that didn’t. 89 years later it still safeguards the welfare, interests and memory of those serving or who have served in the armed forces, their families and dependants today, which continue to be diverse. We campaign and lobby for the veteran and serving community and we do not represent or partner any political party. We are the National custodians of Remembrance and we want everyone, of all ages and backgrounds to reflect on the horrors of conflict and the importance of peace.
The Royal British Legion’s red Poppy symbolizes Remembrance of those that risk their lives or health in conflict or support peacekeeping activities then and now. Whilst the symbol of the flower provides us with hope it also reminds us of all those, regardless of their place of birth, their culture, ethnicity, gender or religion who have fought to provide us here in the UK with a free society, democratic ideals and the opportunity to ponder ‘Who do we think we are?’
Written By John Farmer
Vice Chairman of The Royal British Legion
To learn more about the work of the Royal British Legion and to obtain free educational resources about Remembrance, please follow the link provided below.
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Wtf youre right. the sacrifices of the past are lost on younger people and it is older people who wear poppies. Young white kids dont wear them as theyre not “COOL” but schools are fighting the decline and my sons school did a whole two weeks explaining it. They visited the local cenotaph in the week before and they did projects etc. Its good because i once had to explain to a teenage lad who hitler was. Its like the royle family when she asks her father who is the dark haired fella with the tache who plays the baddie in the war films… that level of ignorance actually exists
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So the next question is why the ignorance & are schools fighting the decline or are they part of the problem?
I am a bit out of touch on the present school teachings.
There are various theories on this including things like Common Purpose & its influences in the establishment.
I think a lot of people are waking up to the fact that something was being lost but also the whole Rememberance thing has become more relevant to people recently as it is their family members being killed or injured.
When I was younger it was slightly dusty history within living memory but now it is with us every day.
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lets face it some parents dont even teach their kids manners so they arent going to bother with much else. The single mums of 30yrs ago are now grandmothers and the single mums of today will pop out another generation of bastards soon enough and the rate of decline will only increase….. Children without guidance or respect are the reason.
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i blame the technocrats in charge of the education systems; they set the agenda, and it always follows the 1960s lefty peacenik agenda. These people took too much acid and fried their pea-brains, now the younger generation are paying the consequences in their educational standards.
Toughening up on discipline in schools would be a good starting point. Children do have rights, but with that goes responsibilities. I am sure that reintroducing discipline , manners and civility would make a teachers life far easier.
and vor, i have to say that when i have been in britain, the younger black kids seem to be the worse in terms of disrespect, that has been my impression.
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Vor why do you keep harping on about who fought in the War? We were an Empire then. What choice did they have? What choice did anyone have?
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Sorry Mlj i was prompted by “Barmy BNP” and his statement:I wonder how many uaf scum and their muslim mates went to a cenotaph or wore a poppy.THATS RIGHT NONE.THERE IS NOTHING BRITISH ABOUT THEM.
I wont mention the war in a typical Basil Fawlty way.
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If Sam were still here he’d point out that wars were fought for the benefit of the sort of toffs who set up this site. The likes of us (or at least the likes of me!) have always been cannon fodder. It makes me laugh when they say the two wars were fought to preserve our freedom.Whose freedom? Their freedom to give us away to Brussels?
Agree about UAF -there are many rumours about who is behind that organisation!
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this armybnp nutter sounds like a bundle of laughs,still he is the type of insane person needed to die in a far off land,weak in the head,strong in the back
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this armybnp nutter sounds like a bundle of laughs,still he is the type of insane person needed to die in a far off land,weak in the head,strong in the back…..mlj ,do you relly believe wars are fought for us,if you do ,you should go round to armybnp s padded cell and keep him company,,,,,War,waged by the rich,Fought by the poor
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“I wonder how many uaf scum and their muslim mates went to a cenotaph or wore a poppy.THATS RIGHT NONE.THERE IS NOTHING BRITISH ABOUT THEM.” They are probably too busy mourning the fall of the USSR.
As for donations, the RBL should take whatever is given them so as to do the best for our veterans. I wonder, in the extremely unlikely occasion of the AFL offering a donation, would they accept it? How many British soldiers have died at the hands of “anti-fascist” communists?
Double standards.
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calm down calm down,all the poppies in the world wont put the smile back on their mothers faces
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Read my post carefully Sam,. What do you think cannon fodder means?I made the precise same point that you did so don’t argue with me.
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sorry im off script here . Since reading all the posts on here ive come to learn that not all BNP supporters are Nazi types. But im increasingly finding that all UAF and anti Bnp/facists are regurlarly described as communist. Im not getting it to be honest i would happily admit to being Anti facist, but im not even the slightest bit communist(i dont think) ive embraced capitalism and dont think that everyone should have the same. Ive worked really hard and sacrificed a lot in order to have the nice things i own, i certainly dont think everyone should enjoy the trappings of wealth just because the system says equality for all.
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I feel certain that if a BNP person or branch gives money to the Royal British Legion, they must know that the money will go to any ex service personnel that needs help, whatever the colour or ethnicity, they don’t try to attach conditions to the money.
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I’ve puzzled about this for ages too. It used to be really “right on” and hippy left wing to support Israel and go and work in kibbutz etc. In later years the left wing types allied with Palestinians (Hammas etc) against Israel. Right back in the early 70s Searchlight (UAF) or the roots of these orgs (oh yes and gays) had pitch battles at weekends with the right wing National Front.
Fascism is apparently very difficult to define but generally it is opposed to communism.
I don’t think that these arguments help much now.We have all been put under tremendous pressure by the terrible workings of our govt and we have three political parties which are virtually indistinguishable in their politics.Democracy itself is under threat.Things are not going to get any better and the establishment is running scared.You don’t have to be a communist to oppose politics that you don’t agree with but you are a citizen here too and if things carry on as they are, if Labour finally achieves its multicultural dream you will need to stand up for what is undeniably yours.
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I just did a long post in response to vor and it was blocked.Try again.
Don’t think you have to be communist to oppose the BNP. That is your entitlement in a democracy.
Fascism (which I think is hard to define anyway)has always been opposed to communism (Spanish Civil War etc).
It used to be right-on, left-wing and hippy to support Israel now the left-wing side with Palestine and Hammas.
There is now a muslim/ left-wing allegiance and there is a long tradition of Searchlight (UAF)and left-wing gays having pitched battles with (in the 70s) The National Front.
I’ve puzzled about this for ages. Wonder if WTF can throw any light on it?
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In my liberal youth I used to read “Time out” in its Duncan Campbell days & I realised there was a form of “Top Trumps” going on, where they would back all sorts of causes seeing their side as an underdog or victim but occasionally one would cut across the rights of another, which they never manage to square.
It seems now Moslems are top trumps in this game due to numbers & organisation, they are not noted for women’s lib or animal welfare issues or gay rights, which the left seem keen on.
Then there is the whole left/right thing, when they are extreme enough they seem to join up at the back & be indistinguishable.
Dictators, mass murder, logic defying theories, that sort of thing.
The BNP have been described as being both far right & having left wing policies by this site amongst others, their members when doing some test (I forget the name), it involves 4 quadrants & 4 questions per round, a lot of them find themselves left of centre due to their concerns for society & related issues.
The terms left & right have become very muddy but are used as a shorthand along with racism, Fascism & Communism but what they mean differs from person to person.
I noticed the park next to the Kremlin in Moscow has the “fasces” symbol in the railings at the gate, which is a bundle of sticks tied around an axe from Roman times & gives us the word Fascism, which is ironic given that was the World centre for Communism.
But the railings are a copy of that idea, not actually Roman.
I think the idea of sticks tied together also symbolises “Unity is strength” in numbers, individually we can be broken but not when joined together.
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I know plenty of right wing people who hate the BNP. Sorry but piched battles with gays hahaha come on there would be fake fur and false fingenails everywhere.
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I am not against women’s lib or animal welfare issues or gay rights by the way, all things in moderation though!
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Your depth of knowlege about the soviet union is impressive … are you a communist (mccarthy style commie hunt coming up) im ogging off tnite but will read your posts with interest.
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VoR
Also some scratched eyes & very hurtful bitchy remarks!
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the UAF and their ilk, are more likely to be anarchists and iconoclasts.
can someone enlighten me on which organisation is supposedly behind the UAF, as we dont get the scuttlebut over here.
good to see Sam shipshape, back on deck after his turn on the turps
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vor says:
November 9, 2009 at 10:36 pm
“are you a communist”
Oh no!
Though I have seen Lenin twice & been in his Sister’s flat!
Sam thinks I am a “Revolutionist” ‘coz I wear Che Guervara T-shirts!
But Communist political theory doesn’t actually translate into anything workable, it doesn’t do what it says on the tin.
But I do know someone who regards the Soviet Union as the good old days!
I think I would have enjoyed some aspects as a kid, Victory Day is enjoyable & I filmed a military parade on Red Square.
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“can someone enlighten me on which organisation is supposedly behind the UAF”
Most mainstream parties are behind the UAF, they signed but didn’t read the small print.
Mainly it is Labour behind them, people like Ken Livingstone, the UAF are the stormtroopers of the Labour party, professional protesters who aim to disrupt lawful meetings or events.
The mainstream are terrified of normal voters hearing the BNP & going “There’s something I could vote for!”
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It would also be true to say that no two Fascist or Communist regimes are alike as a cult of personality is often involved & the regime reflects the man in charge & changes when he does.
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Vor I knew them in the 70s. Lived in a bedsit in Willesden.They were gay but very left-wing and tough.Anarchist even? Black boots and black wooly hats. They used to plan the next battle against the NF meticulously. They were very scary actually.
It’s the different alliegencies which have puzzled me since.
Thanks for explanation WTF. You’ve had some interesting holidays!
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Oh yes I have seen some interesting things & places!
I am fairly well travelled but have not yet been to Germany!
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ahh Germany Astra beer on the Reeperbahn….if carlsberg did holidays…
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lots of neo nazis in Hamburg though…scary chaps
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The spirit of Hitler still alive in the Beer Halls?
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Does the spirit of hitler mix well with coke ? or would something lighter like lemonade go better
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Must admit I am not sure what goes with Schnapps, oh hang on, it’s peach!
Hmm peach Melba, peach Hitler?
Not sure about that one!
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Ill have a rum and coke, two G+ts and a cowardly death in a bunker please
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thats what was wrong with hitler the twat was tee total…he should have indulged permanatley..drunks love everyone..no ww2 result
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Sham, you’re my besh mate. I wuv you. Your round. :b
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slydug..awright pal..hic…whits wrang ow yin..see the bints..she nipping yer noggin again…bluddy wummin
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