Alan Johnson calls for an “honest debate” immigration – The Independent
Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, has given an interview with the Independent and has said that the UK needs an “honest debate” on immigration. Mr Johnson admitted that Labour’s failure to debate immigration had “probably” boosted the BNP’s appeal.
“People think we have shied away from a debate on it. They may well be right,” he said. “My post bag is bigger on immigration than any other issue. It is a major public concern. The public deserves a rational debate on this, rather than what they sometimes get, which is at the extreme end of the scale.”
Schoolboy confronts Griffin at memorial
According to the Independent, Nick Griffin, the leader of the British National Party, has paid a secret visit to a First World War memorial in Belgium – only to become embroiled in an angry confrontation with a 13-year-old schoolboy.
On Wednesday the pupil, William Robey, was in Ypres visiting the Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing as part of a school trip. It was built to commemorate the thousands of British and Commonwealthsoldiers who died in the Ypres Salient in 1914-17, and its walls are inscribed with the names of 54,360 men who died for the British cause – including the 40th Pathans, an Indian infantry regiment which suffered great losses. But as “The Last Post” was about to be played, the schoolboy spotted Nick Griffin surrounded by some of his supporters.
William told The Independent: “I asked him if I could take his picture, next to the memorial for Pathan Indians. He reluctantly agreed, but as I went to take my photo I asked him, ‘Isn’t this against your party’s policy?’ One of his supporters put his hand over the lens, told me to ‘get my facts straight’, and grabbed my arm.
Tags: BNP, Nick Griffin, political correctness, veterans
to Alan Johnson, Home Secretary
… NO SHIT, SHERLOCK! you have finally stumbled on this revelation. Go to the top of the class.
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…. as for the schoolboy story, big bloody deal. It is hardly the story of the century. These lefties and nothingbritish, which poaches their tripe, are really struggling to put some meat on the bones of the attacks on Griffin and the BNP.
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That schoolboy should learn some manners and then stop being such a bigoted little twit.
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“Alan Johnson, the Home Secretary, has given an interview with the Independent and has said that the UK needs an “honest debate””
But that is exactly what we won’t get, much less any action from the likes of him.
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‘Isn’t this against your party’s policy?’
I don’t recall the BNP having a policy on Pathan Indians but I think they are against non British people having to fight our wars for us?
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Emma is an ultra luvvie & probably lives in a hideously rich white area, maybe she should move into a council estate for awhile & see how she fits in.
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Somebody suggested a good use for unwanted MP’s, we can use their incredibly thick skins as soldiers body armour or protection on their vehicles as nothing seems to penetrate it.
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Or just send them to stand in a line in front of the enemy. They’d scare the enemy witless and get slaughtered into the bargain.Win, win!
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mmm dont see those brave patriots of the bnp on the front line,still theres always schoolkids to bully,more their scene.
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Children should be seen and not heard.
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acorn,practice waht you preach and shut up!
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“acorn,practice waht you preach and shut up!”
Kind of proves my point!
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Do you think when Nidal Malik Hasan woke up, he had a bit of a shock?
Instead of 72 virgins, it was 72 Virginians (or the equivalent) that were there to meet him.
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I think he may notice the difference , lack of virtue may be the obvious giveaway. Dont all texans girls lose their virginity to their fathers ? lol.
And before you start going on about me being a racist im joking. He’s going to the chair but he isnt going to be bothered about that.
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Sam everyone in the Army supports the BNP,except the odd numty brainwashed officer.
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Great picture in the times showing a local lad shaking hands with the next P.M.
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Torys and the libs now crapping themselves about the BNP could hammmer them,in the Glasgow by-election.
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barmy…another reason why im NOT a big supporter of the army
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Gets me have did this tory site get involved with the British hating mob of seachlight.STRANGE BEDFELLOWS EH.
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im not surprised they let headcases like you in,…toor a loo la loo la loo,if i had a face like you ,id join the british army
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I was under the impression that all three main parties actually endorse UAF. Good reason for not voting for any of them.
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They all do endorse the UAF but especially the Labour party as they have the most to lose at the moment.
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local papers` are saying the british nazi party will be lucky not to lose their deposit on thursday,,,what a following they have pmsl
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UAF are insignificant anarchists.
there are a lot of people down here , who will support the BNP.
most of us are level headed loyalists, even if we win at sports…
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ps….
NO REPUBLIC
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So in over a month you have a grand total of 690 signatures from present and past services?
mmmm..not very impressive is it?
Maybe the main parties, Lib/Lab/Con men, days of taking the piss out of the electorate are over! sincerly hope so.
Ex Conservative voter
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“Gets me have did this tory site get involved with the British hating mob of seachlight.STRANGE BEDFELLOWS EH.”
Too true (I am assuming that Searchlight has a junior section).
I don’t believe that the majority of the army supports any party. I should not be surprised if more of them vote BNP. The main parties have deserted their responsibilities.
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Army Barmy says:Sam everyone in the Army supports the BNP,except the odd numty brainwashed officer…
The brainwashing he speaks of is is called EDUCATION..
Everyone in the army supports the BNP then….. including the Ghurka Rifles?
AA,MLJ,WTF you must find a way to silence this nut he isnt doing your cause any favours… he is indicative of what ive always believed and has been proven by research. BNP voters have the lowest IQ
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Eh… what research?
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Ill fish it out … from a reputable source too.
It doesnt mean you as you seem articlulate and intelligent. Army Barmy seems the classic zealot BNP supporter he is an embarassment to you im sure, if you read his posts. He thinks that Griffin is the next P.M.
Deluded fool, every point he makes is proven to be false but he still keeps coming back with more ill researched statements.
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whoops !didnt take long to find and it was actually on stormfront of all places.
If the results of general elections are anything to go by, voting Green or Liberal Democrat must be a thankless task. But now the supporters of these parties can console themselves with the knowledge that, although they may not elect a prime minister, there’s a good chance that they are cleverer than the people who do.
Academic research published in the journal Intelligence compares the way people voted in the 2001 election with their IQ at the age of 10 (using data from the 1970 British cohort study). The results are fascinating.
On a party-by-party basis, the average (childhood) IQ scores for 2001 voters were:
Green – 108.3
Liberal Democrat – 108.2
Conservative – 103.7
Labour – 103
Plaid Cymru – 102.5
Scottish National – 102.2
UK Independence – 101.1
British National – 98.4
Did not vote/None of the above – 99.7
The research was based on a survey involving 6,000 people, so it’s obviously pretty authoritative.
Unfortunately, the full article is only available to subscribers. But you can read the abstract here, in which the authors say there is also a correlation between high childhood intelligence and an above-average interest in politics.
I suspect that may partly explain the figures, because people who are apathetic about politics may be unlikely to vote Green or Lib Dem in the first place. (Clever political activists can also vote Labour or Tory, but – because of the apathy vote – there may be proportionally fewer of them voting for the two main parties.) But this can’t be the full explanation, and the authors don’t seem to offer one either.
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Its going back to the same thing. Poorly educated people are the bread and butter of the BNP. The same reason they campaign in deprived areas(with some success) The other thing that reinforces this, is the candidates they field for election and even the chairman. The mainstream parties are full of lawyers, accountants, captains of industry etc. The BNP field candidates who are long term unemployed, Manual labourers and quite often criminals.
I dont think a ship should have the cabin boy at the helm so griffin with his 2/2 from cambridge will keep sailing round in ever circles.
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vor
you are sounding like the intellectually snobbish, inner city elite that seem to vote labour. Not everyone has benefited from good educations, but that is no bar to the right to vote. I still question the wisdom of enfrachising women.
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Barmarmy…what was the choice for you …sign up for an early grave..or prison?that seems to be the way now.
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vor says:
November 11, 2009 at 9:35 am……………
I think the answer is that any professional person who admits to being a BNP supporter at the moment would have no career!
It is those with least to lose who will stick their necks out & admit to being BNP.
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A fair comment.
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wtf..what you mean is its the thick twats on the dole who proudly proclaim to be bnp members coz they cant get a job(that old chestnut)coz of aw they poles n that you know
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I think its the simple fact, that the cleverer you are the less likely you are to vote BNP. Im waiting for Army Bnp to come on and whinge about electoral fraud and vote rigging instead of accepting people just dont like the bnp and what it stands for.
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dont tell me you think the most intelligent people vote green
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Hmmm i dont know many tree hugger types but i guess if thats what the figures show and its an objective impartial analysis of the raw data then im afraid to say it must be true.
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hahaha it is so obvious that i typed in the wrong box. Pigs arse could never make a statement like that his vocabulary is far too limited for that.
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If you are intelligent Vor why don’t you just have a quiet think.What do you think it would be like for you if the BNP were somehow banned? That is what will happen if people like you keep schreeching like banshees without stopping to consider that a truly healthy democracy should embrace the complete spectrum of political view.
What are you so fearful of?
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VoR, as you said, it is pretty stupid of people to keep voting Labour year after year without thinking about it, the BNP would love that sort of blind loyalty.
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Are Pig’s Arse and VOR the same person? Vor how else could you manage to put up that post?
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Come on Vor, let us into the secret!
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vor:”Im waiting for Army Bnp to come on and whinge about electoral fraud and vote rigging instead of accepting people just dont like the bnp and what it stands for.”
So people don’t like the BNP and what it stands for?
Tell me about those gullible bastards that will swallow anything and vote NuLab then vor.
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vor, please tell us how you managed to post as PA.
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Go on vor!
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