BNP exploit Scots heroes to gain votes
During his visit to Scotland Nick Griffin is reported to have said: “It’s politically beneficial for us to be seen with these organisations. We are also involved in other veteran organisations such as Help For Heroes and Soldiers Off The Street. It definitely doesn’t hurt the party to be connected to these groups.”
In response to the BNP leader Clive Fairweather, a former SAS Deputy Commander, said: “It’s distasteful that a racist organisation is targeting veterans. The army is the exact opposite of racists, I would argue it was one of the least racist organisations going. Our soldiers live, fight and work in foreign lands often side by side with foreigners. Veterans charities should not accept funds from any political parties, from the SNP to the BNP.”
Churchill biopic the BNP won’t like: Into the Storm reviewed
A new Churchill film produced by HBO makes, according to the Guardian, ”uncomfortable viewing for any far-right nutters in the UK trying to claim Winnie as king of the super-Brits.”
“Into the Storm is a handsome and factually accurate drama which impeccably avoids the risk of handing over Churchill to either the British or American far right. This DVD is as unlikely to make the shelves at Nick Griffin’s heavily guarded farmhouse as is his Question Time humiliation.”
Tags: BNP, Churchill, Nick Griffin, veterans
While we are on film reviews, my favourite quote of the year so far comes from Gerald Celente in “Fall of the Republic” where he says “Politics is showbusiness for ugly people”.
We all have a few candidates in mind.
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So how well guarded is nick then ? Does he still have the bodyguard with the huge swastika and HITLER tattooed on his back? Heavily guarded !how heavily guarded can it be if they arent allowed firearms? Do we pay a lot of money to have police protection there like Rushdie enjoyed?
His close protection is shit in my opinion. If you can get close enough to hit with an egg then you can hit him with a grenade just as easily. Heres the legal bit… I in no way condone the lobbing of assault grenades toward “Dick” Griffin or any other political leader;).
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i would
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If he’s ‘reported’ to have said that then he’s ‘reported’ to have been fairly typical of politicians who routinely do photo-ops and the like with groups and individuals they feel will help their image. Cameron did it with Carol Vorderman earlier this year and as an added bonus had his office brief the newspapers that she had snubbed Gordon Brown. Politics as usual. You hold the BNP to a different standard because they speak for white people and specifically for the indigenous peoples of Britain. You have no such problem with the thousands of organisations, media, charities, lobby groups – and even foreign states – that do the same for other groups (Maurice, Friend of Israel, that last one’s especially for you).
Your motive, therefore is racist. Your unidentified former SAS Commander, if he’s really the foe of racism he claims to be, ought to reject any association with you. (Not to mention the fact that if he wants veterans’ charities to stay out of party politics, and doesn’t want the forces exploited for political purposes, he ought to keep his ill informed opinions to himself.)
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Its very easy for the bnp to say someone dead “would have been behind the bnp”. I believe if henry the VIIIth were alive today he would have been in al-quaida if nelson was alive he would vote green. What a crock of shit !!
It seems the BNP are happy to enlist people like churchill etc and use people like the late Harry Patch(god bless im) to further their cause. The reality of it is when the membership list gets published they cant get to the papers fast enough to deny any links to the BNP.
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Churchill made certain statements that the BNP agree with & are not acceptable to the current Conservative party.
He may not have wanted to join the BNP though, we don’t really know.
The same with Melanie Phillips or Richard Littlejohn, they don’t want to be in the BNP but they say things that the BNP say.
So it is OK for them to say those things but not for the BNP because it is opportunism?
I smell hypocrisy & double standards as usual.
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Churchill was totally without principle, moral or political, he followed the money. He could easily have been in the Labour party these last twelve years, and could easily have been in the Tories making a fortune in directorships. A financial sacrifice on behalf of his people – which is what support for the BNP would mean – would be anathema to that drunken old warmonger.
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RV said “Fellist is a bit hard line for my liking but hey ho”
All lines are hard, RV, or they aren’t lines. That’s the nub of our disagreement: I am arguing for the non-negotiability of a people’s right to discriminate in its favour on the grounds that this is the only thing can secure its existence; you are arguing for open-ness and anti-discrimination, not recognising (or worse, recognising) that the principle of open-ness and anti-diversity leaves no option ever to say ‘this far but no further.’
The predictable long-term product of our enacting the BNP’s principle of universal nationalism contrast favourably with the long-term product of principled non-discrimination.
Alain de Benoist wrote:
What is the greatest threat today? It is the progressive disappearance of diversity from the world. The levelling-down of people, the reduction of all cultures to a world civilization made up of what is the most common. It can be seen already how from one side of the planet to the other the same types of construction are being put up and the same mental habits are being engrained. Holiday Inn and Howard Johnson are the templates for the transformation of the world into a grey uniformity. I have travelled widely, on several continents. The joy which is experienced during a journey derives from seeing differentiated ways of living which are still well rooted, in seeing different people living according to their own rhythm, with a different skin colour, another culture, another mentality – from recognizing they are proud of their difference. I believe that this diversity is the wealth of the world, and that egalitarianism is killing it. For this it is important not just to respect others but to keep alive everywhere the most legitimate desire there can be: the desire to affirm a personality which is unlike any other, to defend a heritage, to govern oneself in accordance with what one is. And this implies a head-on clash both with a pseudo anti-racism which denies differences and with a dangerous racism which is nothing less than the rejection of the Other, the rejection of diversity.
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And despite your nasty lies that an Englishman concerned for his people’s existence is a whitesupremacistneonazi I came to these opinions first with regard to Tibetans and Palestinians. Only after several years’ soul-searching did I decide my own people deserved equal respect, such is the power of the anti-White and anti-English indoctrination my generation has endured and which you perpetuate with your slurs.
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Wooo the British Nationalist attacking The Greatest Brit ever( as voted for by the british people ) Yeah the BNP say the odd good thing i must admit. I say things that probably echo the sentiments and beliefs of the bnp. But i dont do it from a platform of race paranoia and discrimination. Its the same reason that Plaid Cwmru and the SNP are respected political parties and the BNP arent.
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In case the Gods should ever see this and judge me wrong, I’m an English nationalist.
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“reason that Plaid Cwmru and the SNP are respected political parties”
Well by some maybe……….
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There is no god but allah and mohammed is his only prophet… lol
just threw that curve ball in there Fellist.
Your not obliged (like me) to believe it.
Sorry i dont know if youre a scot or a welshman or a Cornishman (seeking independance)
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Fellist says he is an English Nationalist so I guess he can’t be Welsh or Scottish maybe a Cornishman though.
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the Scottish NATIONALIST Party ,unlike the bnp is not based on skin colour
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Yes I had noticed that, welcoming people who don’t seem to be the least bit Scottish, wanting to be a small fish in the big EU pond……..
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fellow commentators, a bloke down the pub gave me the following tips for todays melbourne cup
a favourite – Roman Emporer
an outsider – Kibbutz ( @ 60/1 and apparently won Adelaide cup )
Worth @ 2 million pounds to the winner if you are lucky enough to own a horse
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…do not squabble amongst yourselves; disunity is death.
you want to see how an inept lefty government is dealing with boatloads of illegal migrants, google news reports on the stadoff between sri lankans and the australian government.
give these blokes an inch…
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typical aussie ..bragging about the size of his manhood
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sam. sam , sam you are bloody funny!
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Nick Griffin has never said that Churchill would want to join the BNP. What he has said is that The BNP would be the only party that could accommodate Churchill’s views. Much of what Churchill wrote would be considered totally beyond the pale today. Far too robust for the mealy-mouthed Lib/Lab/Con.
Read some of it!!
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And read the works of Churchill quickly and in secret before they start burning books to change history.I joke not.
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surely it would the bnp who d be burning books!
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How do you work that one out Sam?
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Its so funny where nothing british take their information from, the far left thugs of the uaf lancaster unity.
Good on Tommy Moffat for the work he does and for accepting the money.
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MLJ its more likely we should read books before the americans make a movie of the book and cast themselves as the heroes… they claimed the enigma code machine was found by yanks when it was tommy atkins who climbed into a sinking sub for the machine and the code book. They suggested the guy on the titanic comitted suicide when he valiantly saved as many as he could before succumbing. Churchill i know suggested gassing the Iraqis lol i know that much. he sent the black and tans into ireland and lots of other not so good stuff.
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They say the victorious write history, so I guess when the American empire fails, films will then have a different slant to them.
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Yeah theyll have english subtitiles along the bottom.
Have you ever seen Stalingrad? what an amaszing film, must try and get it on dvd.
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I think so & I think I have it on DVD but I have a few Russian DVD’s including “Come & see”.
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Come and see? enlighten me .
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wow just found it on wiki …. looks fantastic. I have been waiting 1month for my insurance company to replace my tv…grrrrrr. (Cricket is still in the genes it seems,, but why must he play indoors) So ive got several films in the q to watch when they sort their shit out.
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It is the story of a boy in WW2 witnessing the invasion of the Germans into Russia & the atrocities that occurred.
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I have no idea what all that talk of lips and ginger hair is supposed to mean, I suspect little more than “accept your dispossession” if the rest of your posts are anything to go by. “A race cannot be replaced” — tell me, VoR, do you believe that Wolves and every breed of domestic are all one and the same?
Here’s the science:
We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf
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test
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Maurice Cousins and co. have me beat. It’s become clear that about four-fifths of my posts are automatically blocked. If you undermine the grounds on which nothingbritish ask you to vote Tory, you are effectively banned from posting here.
Farewell, AussieAl, WTF, &c.
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I think we will hear from you elsewhere & I have an idea where to look, so see you there!
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Where? Where?
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BTW, I’ve done loads of posts that have been blocked. Mostly ones where I’ve mentioned how brave Nick Griffin was on QT!! Block???
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That kind of shit is not on… I think one thing weve all learned from each other is everyones opinion counts we may have a conflicting viewpoint or disagree entirely with others but airing our grievances is a fundamental right. Sorry to see you go fellist( and for once im not taking the piss)
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still, this site is not as bad as the guardian’s on-line site. Talk about true nazis. you cannot get posted if you are controversial and you comments are deleted by the pc brigade if you do.
keep trying fellist
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brave!!!!my god it seems going on tv is deemed as brave now,what has england become
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Yes it is automatic now, appear on TV & you’re a celebrity, a hero to some if not everybody.
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im hurt auld fellist didny say cheerio tae me ,sob sob
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Sam you are not a crocodile are you?
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have Maurice and the Torys given up on trying to frighten the British populace into voting conservative… nothing new since monday; no cutting edge scandal, no petty half truths, nothing
…maybe they have come to the sensible conclusion that the BNP are not a product of Hitler’s twisted mind after all, and that they are merely representing what a lot of ordinary folk think.
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Cameron says we cant have a referendum cause everyone else has voted yes…. what!!!! we can be the ones who vote no, and if it all goes tits up we can say “TOLD YA” . Thats reason enough for a REFERENDUM in my eyes
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Well the only option now, is a referendum on whether “Should we stay or should we go” to misquote “The Clash”, as all power has been ceded to the EU now.
If people get very unhappy about what the EU are forcing upon us, Dave will get the stick for it & his only way out would be to offer such a referendum.
But I think it would be a few years away yet.
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i’m starting to feel the same way about this site as fellist; 4/5ths of my comments are not getting through
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Some of my comments seem to disappear too.
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Mine too. But somehow you get 1000 words of gibberish advertising drugs appearing 3 times in a row
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Maybe they’re the sponsers?
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i think armybnp s tested a few of the products
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“Maybe they’re the sponsers?” LOL!
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the armed forces have been guinea pigs before,i think armybnp must have volunteered for all sorts of experiments…maybe it got him out of fighting
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“maybe it got him out of fighting” which you and your cowardly ilk studiously avoid.
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I think fighting in the sense of going to war is stupid (unless of course we are under direct threat) The army in most cases is a place for the likes of Army Bnp. His background is predictable he may dispute it but ill be right on most points. Working class, Absent parent or stepfather, failing school in a deprived area, Not particularly stupid but spent most of his time showing off and seeking attention hence poor academic acheivement. Binge Drinker, modified car, prone to violence etc etc etc.
Its a serious point though, Economic conscription is what drives his kind into the army. A chance for a career or university is a million miles away on sinkhole estates accross the U.K. which is why the army recruit from these places.
Quite unfortunate really
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fannybaws acorn..could you please give me a list of the conflicts YOU have fought in,or like most of your kind ,the patriotic John Bull little englander happy for some other brainwashed 18 year old to DIE for you …as i thought pal .yer full a shite
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oh seargeant is this the adventure you meant ,when i put my name down on the line,all this talk of computers and the world to see,oh seargeant wheres mine?
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Vor, your comments on the army sound elitist. There are more well-educated, intelligent and even middle-class soldiers in the army than you think. Many university degrees today are a joke and employers can see that. That said, economic conscription is still a large recruiting sergeant.
Sam, did I touch a nerve? Did your sphincter tremble at the thought of danger? When you post questions in the way you do, you should not expect an answer. You seem to come from the very group that Vor mentioned (with the exception that you DO seem to be stupid).
That said, I put my name on the line – something that you would not do, for whatever reasons (I am sure that you believe in violence when it suits you). I lost a few friends and training and every one of them was worth more than ten of your kind.
The word is “sergeant, not “seargeant”. Normally I would not bother but as you typed it incorrectly twice I realise it was not a typo. He wears 3 chevrons (three Vs in case the word confuses you). I finished as a Colour Sergeant which has a crown above the chevrons. You should join the army – the Army Education Corps has a good record of helping the hard-of-thinking.
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acorn,i have NO wish to die for a corrupt politician in westminster,so if that makes me a coward,so be it ,people like you are happy to be cannon fodder for a corrupt country like uk(although your kind are really dying for american oil),oh and spelling mistakes really are the most important subject facing mankind today .How many times did you soil your pants when flying in and out of Bessbrook,more than once no doubt.
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“How many times did you soil your pants when flying in and out of Bessbrook,more than once no doubt.” Sounds like a bit of support for PIRA there.
I usually ignore spelling mistakes (we all make them) but you are the one casting aspersions.
Just remember, if it was not for the Armed Forces of the 20th century, people like you could well have been rounded up by the Nazis or Communists.
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Shouldnt you support the IRA as they are trying to reverse colonisation of their country by invaders bringing a foreign faith to their land and reducing them to second class citizens in their own land and taking their government away to a distant place??
sounds like the remit for the bnp.
You guys confiuse me ! i wish youd make up yr mind
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Acorn it wasnt a statement of support for PIRA iam actually a sales rep for pampers
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“people like you would be rounded up by the nazis or communists” surely that would be my fate if the bnp get into power,so all those lives in WW2 were pointless?
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“Shouldnt you support the IRA as they are trying to reverse colonisation of their country by invaders bringing a foreign faith to their land and reducing them to second class citizens in their own land and taking their government away to a distant place??”
Check your history of the Northeast of Ireland. It was the land of the Pretani (Britons) (there is even the ruin of an ancient wall to protect them from invaders from the south and west. The Gaels, of course were invaders of Ireland and later West Scotland. The IRA commit ethnic cleansing. Just how far are we going to go back?
I want tighter immigration laws and a tightening up of our attitude to the asylum laws. I do not believe on forcing out Britons who happen to be a different colour from me and I want the law to treat us without regard to the colour of our skin.
““people like you would be rounded up by the nazis or communists” surely that would be my fate if the bnp get into power,so all those lives in WW2 were pointless?” You crack me up!
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As much as I dislike Sinn Fein/IRA or the UDA/UDF etc, my only real view is that a ghastly mistake was made in dividing Ireland & we have to live with consequences & the Irish more so.
Isn’t Tim Montgomerie a fan of Proddy marching bands & the like?
So there are links to the Conservatives as well as the BNP?
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wtf the tories are in cahoots with the dup in ulster,its about preserving the union,or some other loyal to lizzie drivel.the facts are that since 1922 succesive british goverments have said irelands fate will be decided by the will of the people,and in the 6 counties of ulster ,the 70%/30% split of the 60 s and 70 s is getting narrower. i think it s about 55%/45% now ,and the loyalists are getting worried.
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would hate to see things go back to the dark days….i got family over there ,they can go into town now with no worries
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Sam, yet again you get it wrong.
The Tories and the UUP have had an understanding (sorry for using a word out of your mental reach).
Demographics showed that the RC population was growing faster than the Protestant population, That has reversed. What is more, not all RCs are anti-Union (although they often have to keep that quiet lest your terrorist pals find out) – thank God for the secret ballot.
It is no longer just the religious issue. The “Celtic Tiger” has proven to be a crippled pussy looking out for hand-outs from Europe. Some “independence”! Europe is more interested in othe clients. I hope they don’t start piling into Britain again. You know – the kind that hate the Crown but love the half-crown.
It is worth remembering that the UK was, through Europe, subsidising the Irish republic. The place was a backwater until they joined Europe (following the daft move of the UK).
Still don’t let the facts stop you from singing your daft Oirish songs in the Jungle.
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The Jungle?what decade are you living in?
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“Churchill biopic the BNP won’t like: Into the Storm reviewed”
The Guardian is also noted for not being too pro Israel like some others around here.
Two programmes recently aired have not been too favourable to the Conservatives, “When Boris met Dave” & “Dispatches” talking about the undue influence of the pro Israel lobby on the Conservatives, Nothing very British about that?
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I watched “Into the storm” & I can’t see why the BNP would dislike the film.
It avoided some of his more controversial statements but then they weren’t relevant to the film.
“Bloody French”, didn’t Tony Blair say something ruder about the Welsh?
Most of Churchill’s moments of weakness, petulance and despair in this film have been mentioned before, so no real surprises there.
“We didn’t fight the war so the damn Labour Party could take over & destroy everything we believe in” would be a quote Nick Griffin would or has echoed.
Also the “We shall fight them on the…..” speech has resonance today as well, especially if you see Moslems as the enemy within?
Whether Nick Griffin would expose himself to the US president after a bath & say he had nothing to hide is another matter!
Then was the Labour(?) MP who couldn’t decide between Hitler or Churchill.
The King pointed out that he had a replacement whereas Churchill didn’t, maybe Nick feels the same way hence standing in Barking as an MP!
Churchill says “They (the voters) are entitled to vote for who they please, this is a democracy after all, this is what we’ve been fighting for.
Which is what the mainstream politicians & this site should remember, as they throw up their hands over BNP gains.
“Joe Stalin couldn’t understand why we hadn’t fixed the results”, maybe that will be Gordon’s next trick, an Afghan election?
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