First the fear, then a sigh of relief, now the return to reality.
In the first major piece of new polling insight since BNP-QT, The Sunday Times’s David Leppard (a former-colleague of mine) has first sight of a Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) poll that says that BNP support in their core-vote communities like Stoke and Blackburn is set to rise by about 50% to 18%.
Some points:
1) The anger and frustration is still bubbling away.
After Griffin’s stumbling performance there was a temptation to hope for the best. That’s it. The worst is over.
In fact, BNP leader’s poor delivery on the night does not somehow miraculously defuse the sort of anger and frustration that readily feeds off the BNP’s brand of family-friendly racism and extremism.
Five drivers of this anger and frustration are particularly important.
a) In the heartland of Britain economic pessimism is still growing, despite the feel-good factor returning elsewhere in the economy. For instance, the manufacturing sector is still shedding jobs and public sector restraint is beginning to be felt at the front-line.
b) The Home Offices immigration regime is widely felt to be unfair, a sensation that is now being felt not only at the work-place and but also at the Job Centre. Mainstream parties refuse to address the issue, even in the run-up to the election, to the immense frustration of those who are losing out.
c) The EDL’s fortnightly marches, though often a damp squib, keep Islamism and “Islamification” in the headspace of these communities. Politicians are not trusted to solve this problem.
d) The war in Afghanistan – an important struggle of historic proportions – is increasingly confusing to voters and public support is falling. The BNP are taking a counter-intuitive, populist anti-war position.
e) Westminster’s reluctant efforts to clean up its act are a national embarrassment that re-inforces the sense of disenfranchisement felt by Britain’s dispossessed.
Despite his evidently poor debating skills and distasteful world vision, Griffin is far from a busted flush.
2) BNP support has spread beyond the pockets studied by the EHRC
A feature of the current “post-globalisation” burst of fascism – Britain’s fifth such burst in 100 years – is the use of the internet by the BNP to reach beyond the pockets of core-support in the Thames corridor, northern ex-mill towns and the West Midlands.
New BNP offices are being set up in unexpected places like Scotland and events are held in places like Salisbury, Thetford and Cheltenham. New communities are being targeted, such as veterans, agricultural workers and Christians.
The EHRC are wrong to focus their pollsters on a few areas because the politics of fear and resentment are seeping into dispossessed communities throughout the country – the results will be seen in the 2010 local elections when we’ll see red-white-and-blue victories spread like German Measles across the map in places around the country which have never seen the BNP before.
3) Westminster elections are not safe
It is an easy assumption that our first-past-the-post system is some kind of guarantee that prevents yucky extremists like the BNP from ever plonking their fat bottoms and cheap suits on the green leather at Westminster. This is probably still the case – they are unlikely to win a seat next year barring a disaster like the implosion of the Barking Labour party (this is a possibility). However, the hold the mainstream parties have on the country’s votes is diminishing – they had less than two-thirds of the overall vote in June ‘09 – as special interest parties (UKIP and the Greens) and regional-representative parties (eg SNP and Plaid Cymru) chisel away. The BNP are a mixture of both. In some three/four-way seats a candidate might win with less than 10,000 votes or less than 20% of the votes cast. The BNP are on 18% in three constituencies, according to the EHRC.
If the mainstream parties remain so highly focused on relatively few swing seats in Middle England, they could easily let extremists slip in the cracks where no one is paying attention.
Tags: Barking, BNP, EHRC, election, polling, Question Time, veterans
“a counter-intuitive, populist anti-war position”
Hah! The double-think doesn’t extend only to race and nation issues.
“If the mainstream parties remain so highly focused on relatively few swing seats in Middle England, they could easily let extremists slip in the cracks where no one is paying attention.”
The extremists are the establishment parties out to race-replace the population. Their policies sneaked in while we weren’t paying attention or were distracted / silenced by talk of racism; diversity; economic benefits.
By definition there is nothing extreme about saying, ‘this far, no further; let’s solve the problems already created by the establishment parties before importing more of the same.’ This, basically, is the BNP stance. It’s the only conservative option out there.
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Race replacement ?? do you understand how genetics works ? A race cannot be replaced, If you are a white person and your parents are white you can still have a completely black african child from a recessive gene inherited from as far back as 8 generations. I have a friend Alan his mum is white his dad is black. he is black. His sister is white with african traits such as large lips. she had 3 children with a white man and all of them are white with no african traits at all.
Ginger dave is pasty with ginger hair, his mum is white ,his dad is white, all his siblings are white. his maternal grandparents are white his paternal grandfather is indian and his grandmother white..AND DAVE HAS GINGER HAIR.
Its the irrational fear of white people that their genetic traits are weaker than those of dark skinned people… Thats the basic genetic inferiority complex you need to address
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“3) Westminster elections are not safe”
Excellent!
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I have no idea what all that talk of lips and ginger hair is supposed to mean, I suspect little more than “accept your dispossession” if the rest of your posts are anything to go by. “A race cannot be replaced” — tell me, VoR, do you believe that Wolves and every breed of domestic are all one and the same?
Here’s the science:
We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf
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This is a correction, I bet it’ll appear before the original post which may never appear:
domestic dog
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Fellist we are a higher life form (not dogs) so any data on doggy breeds dissapearing is defunct. Oh but youve set me off now, if white people were to vanish (god forbid) would it not simply be because they were evolved out by a superior species/race? therefore isnt that the way it goes the survival of the fittest and all that rubbish(I dont believe it personally you could ride a coach and horses through the holes in that theory)
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I best stop licking my balls then?
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better than licking auld nicks!
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hahaha wtf you crack me up sometimes.
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“nothingbritish” still doesnt understand the anger of the people.
they have not been consulted about mass migration, and 11th hour attempts by the torys and their false . mealy mouthed protestations are not enough to reclaim the population
vote BNP and keep the bastards honest
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no!
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theres nothing honest about the bnp
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I would have thought that the honesty of the BNP is what is freaking out the Lib/Lab/Con.
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‘theres nothing honest about the bnp’
So the cons/liebour/lib-dims are the great bastions of truth.
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what would be different about the bnp,oh thats right there policies would be based on skin colour and religion,superb
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Isn’t that how politics used to be & frequently is in some countries?
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Yes but arent we a touch more civilised here? Obviously its much the same just better disguised. We wont see a non white leader in my lifetime im sure..
Hey folks Good news from Afghanistan eh … Our soldiers are dying to prop up a guy who fiddled the election… I wonder if the defence minister is still Dostan the Uzbeck warlord who won the throat slitting competition.
Exporting Democracy dontya love it
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Yes lets leave now, job done, dictator in place.
Oh hang on a mo’ is the gas pipeline finished yet?
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hahah your a cynic wtf… i like that. The tap(trans afghan pipeline) isnt ready the specs are there. 56inch pipe @100 ATM theyve even divvyed up the shares. But it has to be fast or Russia will get all the gas out and sold before we get the pipe in. They can lay it but the “Mujahideen” will just keep blowing it up. We laid railway lines when we tried to conquer afghanistan the blighters dug them up and turned them into rifles almost overnight.(See Darra pakistan)
for an example of gunsmithing.
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VoR
” ….the blighters dug them up and turned them into rifles almost overnight.(See Darra pakistan)
for an example of gunsmithing.”
Funny you should mention that as I posted a comment about a video I saw about that that town or a similar one but it got spammed.
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Hi, I always wondered who nothing british was?….. Having read your various articles on here, I must say its not always fair and insulting at times……. not in the sense of directly slagging off, just that if anyone like me (1st time voter fed up with lab,con,lib dems and the lies from them and also the masses of illegal immigrants and islamic fundamentalists) wants to vote BNP (which I am next year) we are to feel threatened and forced to feel that we’re we’re somehow now nazi supporters?……I’m not my family fought them in the wars……….. I am just fed up with the nasty immigrants that fill up our prisons, they also abuse the system and as a Christian all my beleifs are slowly being trampled on in favour of Islam and other ‘minority’ religions. I should be able to stand up and be proud of my country and my race and not feel that saying I am a proud white Englishman I am actually a racist and this country does not belong to me somehow? …….. my Black and Asian friends dont see me as a racist…..they also feel that the illegal nasty immigrants are giving them a bad name and want them out….I only hope the BNP will see that there are many ethnic minorities who feel totally loyal to the UK and will allow the membership to the party to be more welcoming to them, there are quite a few 3rd and 4th generations of mixed race and british arabs and other etc joining the BNP forums saying what I am saying….basically Illegals Out, Legals In. Admire what your trying to say but its gone to far with the main parties policies……… many Britons feel alienated and no-ones listening and above all doing anything to save the UK. I also notice your all very well connected to the political parties so there a bias straight away and are you really a not for profit outfit…..or are you a soundpipe for the Conservatives or Labour. One thing I have noticed since seeing Nick Griffin being banned from Parliament ‘in a democratic state’ how filthy and dirty UK politics are. Gary.
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I have no idea what all that talk of lips and ginger hair is supposed to mean, I suspect little more than “accept your dispossession” if the rest of your posts are anything to go by. “A race cannot be replaced” — tell me, VoR, do you believe that Wolves and every breed of domestic dog are all one and the same?
Here’s the science:
We investigated various cases of the island model with stochastic migration. If the population is infinite, the immigrants have a fixed gene frequency and the alleles are neutral, the gene frequency on the island converges to that of the immigrants.
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/picrender.fcgi?artid=1213928&blobtype=pdf
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Sort of “swords to ploughshares” in reverse.
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Yeah exactly lol. I visited bout 15 yrs ago in disguise (sporting a beard and local dress)) i had to pretend to be a mute cause even my foreign languages have a yorkshire accent. Its a crazy place but not as bad as the heroin bazaar in Peshawar, Managed to get a football sized lump of the finest cannabis for 11 dollars wooo hooo and enjoyed smoking it with my beautiful french long term holiday romance girlfriend. happy days/daze. Dont worry about cannabis its safer than alchohol or riding a horse…
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these places are a lost cause and are not worth the west’s blood or money; especially now the economies are stuffed. Someone is making money out of it and the politicians are probably taking backhanders to keep the troops over there. Still, if you had shares in armaments companies…
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Youve hit the nail on the head again … someone always makes money.
Its blood for oil or blood for gas every time. Even the falklands was just to secure the gasfields offshore they knew were there but didnt have the technology to exploit. We all know about Haliburton and how they make a killing literally from supplying the us forces(they even overcharge them) But it runs deeper, its the desire of the west and its shrinking power and influence in the modern world to hang on to any control they have… but in the end the power shifts between nations all the time… Egypt , Mongolia, Persia, Mesopotamia the Aztecs etc etc. We are witnessing a power shift and the death throes of the west
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vor
i disagree with you on the Falklands issue.
Britain has had sovereignty continuously since the 1830s and the Falkland Islanders have lived there permanently since that period.
Argentinas claim was a teneuous one, which predated its independence from Spain; and at no time did Argentinians live on the islands.
Galtieri invaded purely to distract the population in Argentina from his unpopular dictatorship (is there ever a popular one?), with the result being an end to his junta.
The rights and wishes of the Falkland Islanders was paramount and being British subjects, Britain had a moral duty to act in the way she did.
Their freedom was reclaimed.
The fact that there is possibly a rich oilfield is coincidence, and nearly 30 years later it is disingeneuous to suggest that British motives were not to primarily protect the rights of its subjects.
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… plus that little dago Maradona was a cheating m@$^&)@%&&er
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I think the Falklands were neglected but we did the right thing there & also indirectly brought democracy back to Argentina.
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VoR
“We are witnessing a power shift and the death throes of the west”
Maybe so, but the West may linger on for a bit yet.
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Maradona-honurary member of the Tartan Army
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Las Islas Malvinas-for britain to claim this a glorious victory must be a wee bit embarrassing considering they were a professional highly trained war machine fighting concripts not even in their 20 s still i supose england s victories over Argentina are few and far between so they must take what they can get
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The Hand of God,what a goal
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Maggie could have sent an aircraft carrier several months before the argies invaded there was enough intelligence to suggest they would. Instead she hung on and exploited the military victory to her own political gain …
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sam your right .we can cry about the foul play but the name engraved on the trophy is what counts…
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foul play…never genius i call it
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vor
you might herald the death throes of the west, but in the vacuum that follows, do any of the heir-apparents share our moral values.
the chinese are rapacious users of the planet, devoid of any moral compass, and the indians are not much better, despite their spirituality. As for the moslem pretence at a pan- global caliphate, heaven help you if you are a non believing infidel.
we can only hope the west does hang on a bit longer, but at the rate of mass migration from the aforementioned countries, plus others, the west will be subsumed beneath the seething tide of humanity about to engulf us all.
tasmania is a quiet spot to go bush and grow a beard
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Nah al we will all be plastic american consumers by then …
caution ex muslim quotes joe strummer
“Lemme tell ya about your blood bamboo kid.
It ain’t Coca-Cola it’s rice.!”
The kids in Osaka Beijing Mumbai basically anywhere, all want mobile phones and girlfriends with implants, they wear designer jeans and listen to a western band on their mp3 player, weve got eye widening operations for orientals Skin bleaching creams for Indians. If anyone is losing their identity its everyone else
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Ican go bush but cant grow a beard lol, i look like a beardy wierdy fundamentalist type cos i dress in a combat kinda style on mufti days. Suppose the tattoos would show im not, but its winter here Al and you know how miserable that is…
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“Dont worry about cannabis its safer than alchohol or riding a horse…”
Might make you vote Conservative or even become its leader…..
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Gary Simpson
The BNP are not racist we are concerned for our people,black/white or anyone who loves being in our country.I have Indian friends and they say to me,’look at all these immigrants’,i admire people like that.
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Did anyone see Kilroy Silk on QT last night? They turned on him just like they did on Nick Griffin (well not as bad but the same irrational mobbing). He looked quite shocked just like Nigel Farage did when he was on QT and accused of racism. The liberal elite shout “racism” to silence anyone who tries to talk reason.
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What a dick Kilroy is lets look at what he said
“what apart from oil have muslims/arabs given us”
Muslims led the world in the study of medicine, astronomy, mathematics, geography, chemistry, botany, and physics. specifically algorithms Algebra
The idea of the college was a concept which was borrowed from Muslims. The first colleges appeared in the Muslim world in the late 600’s and early 700’s. In Europe, some of the earliest colleges are those under the University of Paris and Oxford they were founded around the thirteenth century. These early European colleges were also funded by trusts similar to the Islamic ones and legal historians have traced them back to the Islamic system.
In the field of Mathematics the number Zero (0) and the decimal system was introduced to Europe, which became the basis for the Scientific revolution. The Arabic numerals were also transferred to Europe, this made mathematical tasks much easier, problems that took days to solve could now be solved in minutes. The works of Al-Khwarizmi (Alghorismus) were translated into Latin. Alghorismus, from whom the mathematical term algorism was derived, wrote Sindhind, a compilation of astronomical tables. He, more importantly, laid the ground work for algebra and found methods to deal with complex mathematical problems, such as square roots and complex fractions. He conducted numerous experiments, measured the height of the earth’s atmosphere and discovered the principle of the magnifying lens. Many of his books were translated into European languages. Trigonometric work by Alkirmani of Toledo was translated into Latin (from which we get the sine and cosine functions) along with the Greek knowledge of Geometry by Euclid. Along with mathematics, masses of other knowledge in the field of physical science was transferred.
So either he is racist or he is ignorant? he certainly isnt reasonable or cultured
One thing for sure in 50yrs there will be as many BNP members as there are “VERITAS” voters
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I think you’ll find that most scientific knowledge originally came from Egypt and Greece. Much of this was taken in the form of manuscripts by invaders who then absorbed the learning into their own culture.
Anyway if what you say is true then what on earth happened???
Why would you need to be so abusive towards KS? Why are you so incoherently terrified of someone’s viewpoint?
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Gary Simpson,
Well said sir.
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a) 1 out of 5 correct.
b) The immigration regime may be “unfair”, but more importantly it is out of control, allowing communities up and down the country to be swamped with foreigners, rendering those places unrecognisably alien. That’s what British people find intolerable.
c) You credit the EDL with far more influence than they actually wield. What keeps Islamism in the news are Islamist hostility, suprematism and bomb-making.
d) The war in Afghanistan has no clear aims. More worryingly, in 8 years the Taliban have regrouped and (according to US top brass) regained the upper hand. If “winning” the war requires defeating the Taliban, then the war is indeed lost.
e) Compare an MP’s salary + perks with the wage of a British Army infantryman.
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P.S. Keep up the good work of publicizing the BNP!
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“Las Islas Malvinas-for britain to claim this a glorious victory must be a wee bit embarrassing considering they were a professional highly trained war machine fighting concripts not even in their 20 s still i supose england s victories over Argentina are few and far between so they must take what they can get”.
What utter nonsense. Obviously you know even less about warfare than you do about politics. You also show contempt for the achievements of out troops – noy uncommon in left-wingers.
There were plenty of Argentinian regulars as well as the conscripts (remember that most British troops in WW2 were conscripts) on the Falklands. They had the advantage of defensive positions, armour, minefields, numbers, logistic lines and land-based aircraft. Our soldiers were hadly old-age pensioners either!
To think that my mates died whilst you are here spouting crap makes my blood boil.
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I said he was a dick because he is one! The permatanned fool is nowhere near as good as Jeremy Kyle. There is no “if” about the dicoveries i quoted there are dozens more credited to islam. What happened ? the same thats happening here. We were responsible for the 20th centuries greatest discoveries but in generations to come people in far flung lands may deny that, as you do. But i guess all discoveries rely on the work of others. It was Isaac Newton who said “if i have seen further than others its because i was standing on the shoulders of giants” oddly enough even his quote was borrowed from the latin phrase “Nanos gigantum humeris insidentes” interpreted as “one who develops future intellectual pursuits by understanding the resarch and works created by notable thinkers of the past”.
Acorn its ironic that on another thread the bnp deny the acheivments and sacrifices of British soldiers based on their skin colour… left wing are they?
Funny it was the BNP who would deny the Ghurkas a decent pension and right to remain or Say a black man who won the V.C. got it because he was black.
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VoR
Even if that is all true, Islam has gone into a cul-de-sac & may, as I said before, have a Renaissance or an enlightenment but that maybe still 200 years away.
All Islam has given us recently is the suicide bomber & barbarity, I think we need some distance so it can sort itself out & grow up & contribute something to civilisation.
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Havent all religions ? they dont hold the reins anymore as they did in times previous. Do you think anyone would get off the sofa these days to fight for god? They cant get their arse out of bed for church once a week. Muslims dont pray 5 times a day as they should… Money is the new religion and we worship at the shops/Car showroom etc
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Well I am not particularly religous, that is part of the CoE upbringing I guess!
I am not a huge consumerist either.
A man of simple pleasures which is why I am here…..
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No, and we don’t want any one religion to to hold the reins that control every aspect of our lives. We really don’t want that!
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you have it already,the great god is rupert murdoch and his church is sky tv
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I can’t stand Sky etc, I am allergic to it.
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alas we need it for footie
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Whereas I don’t!
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Hey sam my home team has got your old manager… cheers is he any good ? well frankly he cant be worse than our last 3 so you dont have to answer that.
Did you enjoy the boxing on saturday wtf? are you a fan of the noble art?
It was good the soviet giant was out boxed by a superior athlete and tactician.
Another Great English heavyweight boxing champ… Ah well at least he’s a proper Englishman not like Lennox Lewis who was a Canadian mercenary.
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I missed the boxing, I am surprised by the result but it was said at the time the Russian maybe didn’t have technique, just reach & height, it seems that was proved.
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Yeah he was throwing single shots just kind of hit and hope sort of things. A good boxer will always beat the slugger(unless he gets knocked out) But i thought Haye could have learned a lot from Mike tyson who used to get inside the opponents guard and throw an uppercut/hook hybrid that would lift the taller guy out of his boots…. i imagined seeing an Asterisk the gaul type “paffffft” balloon appear when he hit like that. he’ll hold the title a while i think till the giant bear shooting bloke gets a re-match
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Difficult to stay on top, some bugger is always looking to knock you off!
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vor ,,be prepared for strachans press confrences…absolutley hilarious,if hes the manager of another team that is
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