Lee Barnes, BNP Legal Director
The BNP’s Legal Director, Lee Barnes, has responded to our letter calling on him to correct the factually inaccurate blog postings he has made on his blog 21st Century British Nationalism.
Mr Barnes has continued to repeat the lie that the former Castaway contestant, Alister Cooling, who has been convicted for downloading indecent images of children, worked for Nothing British and ConservativeHome. This is not true. We ask both the BNP and Mr Barnes to correct this.
Cooling has never worked for Nothing British, a not-for-profit company registered at Companies House. He has never contributed articles, has never had a contract of employment or any formal role, and no one here has ever met him, talked with him or corresponded with him.
In 2007 Cooling once contributed an unpaid article to the now defunct “Conservative Future Diary” which was once part of ConservativeHome. Cooling was not, as Mr Barnes and the BNP state, an employee of ConservativeHome nor has he ever had any contractual or formal relationship with ConservativeHome.
ConservativeHome does not “run” Nothing British. The two organisations are quite separate corporate structures.
We continue to ask both Mr Barnes and the BNP to correct their baseless comments made about ConservativeHome and Nothing British.
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@WTF as I said yesterday I actually do respect your views and you are not the average BNP Supporter and you are very clearly someone that does think outside the box.
I haven’t actually looked that deeply into the world population stats etc, but I am aware of the issue, so I cannot give you a detailed response as I am not confident in my facts to acceptably debate it with you, (being 100% honest with you)
At this point in time I have more concern for the way our country is going and who will be the best party to start making inroads into sorting this out.
And I don’t believe that the BNP is the answer to getting things done and getting our country back on the path of growth again.
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Edmund said “And why is it so difficult to believe that a 15 year old can actually decide which party they support of their own free will? If I was Annon’s son I would feel massively insulted at it being almost implied my dad was in some way brainwashing me.”
You are 100% correct he constantly disagrees with me, but he presents facts to me, and when I’m wrong I hold up my hands and admit it.
But that’s is the way both the kids have been taught to think for themselves and I am proud of the way they both do things. Ok I admit it when the 15 y/old proves me wrong I seriously get annoyed (and sometimes have a bit of a paddy) but when I look at what he says then I can do nothing but stand there and tell him how proud I am of him for proving me wrong.
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Exactly Annon, people complain teenagers have no interest in politics, and then when they do they’re told they’ve been brainwashed. More proof teenagers can’t win in modern society?
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still with us Annon, i thought you didn’t debate with shite like us. Well, you certainly show very little understanding as to why people in Britain, as well as other Western countries, are increasingly frustrated at the waves of mass migration being foisted upon them from the third world.
In 1950 there were approximately 2 Billion people in the world. Now that total is approaching 7 Billion. Where do you think that growth is coming from? The Third World. Where do you think they are heading? The developed World.
Do the sums, it is your living standards that are going to fall as a result of this demographic shift. It is pointless decrying the BNP’s economic policies, when the sky is about to fall on your head.
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Indeed Edmund, but if we listened to the majority BNP view we are all being brainwashed because we don’t believe the BNP views.
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So Aussie let me ask you one simple straight forward questions (not designed to insult in any way, but if it does then I appologise in advance)
1. Do you believe that it is the fault of all Non-White people’s of the world that we now have some 7 billion world population (your figure I gaven’t looked for the actual figure)?
2. Do you believe as does a certain Mr Lee Barnes that we should only help developing countries if they agree to be sterilised or some other form of forced contriception before we provide them with financial or medical aid?
3. Do you believe unlike Mr Barnes that the white population of the world should also be subject to this population reduction and also submit to a one woman on child policy?
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Annon, i can assure you that i receive no information from the BNP, therefore i cannot be brainwashed by them.
Like your son, i have developed my own opinions regarding these issues, and i find it bloody offensive that any time i dare disagree with the PC elite or other established orders, i am branded a racist for my views. So you know what? I have adversly reacted to this branding, and find myself becoming increasingly more intolerant of foreigners. Especially when i see the total disrespect for our culture, the crime rates, the Ghettos etc…
I have had enough and the BNP is the only party speaking my language.
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@Pigs, that is entirely your choice, I am not here to try and change your mind the way you vote is up to you.
And I would just like to point out that I have at no time either implied or directly called you racist, and that I also have no intention of doing so.
I repect all peoples views and opinions as long as they have the ability to defend those opinions without having to resort to childish comments.
We are dealing with an adult subject I would therefore ecpect people to engage in adult debate.
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Annon, I was once accused of being anti-British by a BNP member I was debating with elsewhere simply for saying I felt the BNP were wrong. Interesting to note only Anon has voiced any opinion on my rather long comment.
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I have had many debates (well i wouldn’t exactly say debates) with many BNP Supporters and normally within less that five minutes they have decended into you Scum, UAF, Leftie, Commie etc etc standard drival.
But I do have to say that this is the closest I have actually come to a decent debate and I would have to thank WTF for that one, who has actually engaged in debate and not used the standard BNP stock repsonses.
Hence why I have been coming back I have actually been interested in what he has to say.
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I agree about WTF, I have a great respect for the way he’s debated with you. As for the comment from Lee Barnes (which I assume as with Davey’s comment was mistaken identity) that I’m part of the Israel lobby. If you actually listened to my opinion on the Middle East it would take you all of five minutes to realise I am NOT part of the Israel lobby.
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spent ages addressing your points and they have been blocked
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I’d be curious to know what you thought Aussie, its a pity the reply didn’t appear.
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The thing that gets me the most is that people assume that because I am against what the BNP stands for I am therefore instantly a member of the UAF which couldn’t be further from the truth.
I am simply someone who believes in making our country work to its best and making live better for everyone in it (sounds like such a wishy washy dream lol) but I do hold a firm beliefe that we as a country can maintain a good standing in the world, we do command the respect of other nations and I believe in our country having a bigger voice on the world stage and maintaining and developing links with other countries.
Where as the BNP’s idea is the absolute revers of that view, they want to effectively isolate the UK in some imaginary self-suffiency bubble that really isn’t possible in the modern world of today.
It is my honest opinion that if that were to happen we would see a vast majority of the white Britons leaving the country for a better life in a country that isn’t issolated and cut off from the wider world economy and all that knowledge and spice that brings with it.
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try again.
1) the population growth has come from the third world. western medicine has ensured mortality rates have fallen in childbirth and as a result of disease. This has been most accutely been felt in the third world, and a population explosion has ensued.
2) China has had a one child policy for over 40 years to try and address this problem. India, in the 1970s, used to offer transistor radios in exchange for vasectomies. When you have the Catholic church opposing birth control measures in the Third world (as does Islam, Hindus and other religious orders), then other measures have to be considered, as the planet cannot sustain current growth rates.
3) Fertility rates have declined in the Western world over the last 50 years, and therefore white people are not really part of that problem. In fact our medical,financial and Food aid has ensured that more people in these countries have survived than ordinarily would have.
I dont want them in my backyard. Enough is enough.
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My god my son is going to have so much fun correcting my spelling when he reads this later, (I may have to play dumb and pretend I can’t remember the site so he can’t read it) because I know i am going to get a list of incorrect spellings handed to me (yes smug git I know you’ll do it
) << message to him can be ignored by everyone else.
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Again
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Aussie when that happens to me I just press back and try again, i’ve done it a few times so far.
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Hmm, not sure what to suggest Aussie
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point 1.
population growth has come from the third world in the past 60 years. The third world accounts for over 5 billion people on this planet. Medical advancement has meant mortality rates have fallen and birthrates have increased. This has been seen in the third world, as many diseases have been eradicated.
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point 2
China has had a one child policy for over 40 years to address the problem of overpopulation, but their population has continued to increase. India, in the 1970s , introduced a scheme to exchange vasectomies for radios. The Catholic church, Islam and certain Hindu elements, are opposed to birth control, and this is reflected in the increasing birth rates of mexico, brazil, middle east india, phillipines etc… Other measures need to be looked at, as the trend cannot continue unabated.
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The original topic here was Criminals, I would just like to point out a story has appeared today concerning a BNP Member (may now be former not sure so don’t quote me on it)
http://www.batleynews.co.uk/news/BREAKING-NEWS-Batley-bomb-maker.5864422.jp
Now this if it turns out he is a BNP member is worrying, and would be the second recently as the Suffolk MEP Candidate for the BNP has also been arrested and charged on similar charges, now that is criminality bordering on terrorism (trying to be careful with my choice of wording here)
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point 3
The western world has had declining fertility rates over the past 50 years, and therefore is not a part of the problem. Western medical aid, financial aid and food aid has kept untold millions of people alive, when, if nature had been allowed to take it’s course, they would have ordinarily have died.
…and i do not want this flotsam jetsom of humanity in my backyard. Enough is enough.
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not my original posts but an abridged version; 3 times is enough
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Ok Aussie, I think we have established your views from the responses, thank you for answering so frankly.
I must say (as you are probably expecting) don’t agree with your views, but I think to save decending into arguments which does no one any good we will leave that one there.
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I’m not entirely sure whether those points were aimed at me, but since I don’t want to start a huge argument in here I’m going to simply say I don’t agree with your viewpoint, but I do respect the fact its your opinion.
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No Edmund they were in response to questions I asked, and at least he answered openly and honestly no attempt to hide his view which I respect.
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Edmund
when the Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, Jutes and Normans invaded, each faced violent resistance. They were not welcomed with open arms, free housing, a complicit multicultural policy and an invitation to continue their cultural proclivities.
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Aussie I happen to believe, having spent my life with people from more cultures than I can name let alone count, that it adds diversity to Britain, which in my opinion is no bad thing. But again, I respect your viewpoint.
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well i think that he is one Australian that finally makes sense
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I have grown up in our multicultural world, and I have to say I am personally better for the experience, I have learned a lot from other cultures (some good some bad) but I do feel I have benefitted from the British Multicultural Society I mean for one thanks to one of my neighbours I can cook a mean curry from scratch and that winds up my father (becase it’s better than his) which is fine by me
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I have a simple attitude to people’s culture, religion or lifestyle: as long as it breaks no laws and you don’t try to make me join you I don’t mind.
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well mores the pity that the third world were not so welcoming to earlier european attempts at multiculturalism. Oh thats right, it is derided as colonialisation. Yet colonisation nowadays is called multiculturalism.
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Exactly Edmund I whole heartedly support your last statement. Being a person of no religion I have to say that as long as you don’t try and force me to believe your religion then that’s perfectly fine by me.
That’s a leason I was taught by my father and a leason I pass on to my kids, learn to think and believe in what you want to believe in but don’t try and insist everyone follows your ideals, we are all different respect those differences and respect everyone as a human.
No better a leason did my father ever teach me than that one.
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we have a huge diversity of people here as well, in fact Australia is a living Noahs Ark. Yet it is unravelling into a dogs bloody breakfast.
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Pigs, this was an argument I was trying to avoid making knowing BNP supporters would find some reason to attack this, but one of the few examples of multicultralism actually working was, curiously enough, in Moorish Spain. Unfortunately the Spanish King put an end to it.
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Ok @Pigs
I have a question for you;
Do you believe that each religion, culture colour etc should remain inside their own countries? i.e. Africans stay in Africa
And therefore believe that only White british people should be allowed to be in Britain?
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So Aussie,
In your opinion who should have more right to live in Australia?
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Edmund, Annon
while you two pat yourselves on the back in an orgy of self congtratulatory moral superiority, answer me this.
How many more foreigners can this country accomodate ?
What about our loss of cultural identity ?
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you try to live peacefully as a white man in Zimbabwe Annon, or now South Africa. Try moving to the arab nations and continuing to live a western life. You would be flogged for drinking alcohol in Saudi, for a start. And then there is the religious chauvenism that exists in these countries also. Not much time for christianity. But there again, if i lived there and didnt like it, i could always blow up a train or a bus.
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Australians!
we know who we are, migrants included, but not the wogs that arrive here and expect to remain a whatever they are.
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That’s because if i did move there Pigs i would be expected too and therefore would respect their laws, as every ethnic person I know personally in this country does respect our laws (ok I can’t say thats true of all of them, but we can’t say every white person obeys the British laws either)
So that argument is really a non-starter before you move it into saying we will have Sharia Law in the UK soon, I have an answer for that one already and it is as follows:
Isn’t the BNP Policy of the Death Penalty and Corporal Punishment for petty criminals just another form of Sharia Law just in more acceptable words?
Because if you look at it it is in my opinion.
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Edmund
the Moors invaded Spain in the 8th century, and spread Islam on the point of a sword, The Spanish Christians spent the next 600 years trying to get rid of them. Try harder to come up with a better example.
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And the biggest thing people forget about Sharia law is for it to be used both parties i.e. in the case of Divorce in the UK which the the only time it can be used (to the best of my knowledge) both parties have to agree to firstly take part in the process, if one choices not to then the British courts are used.
that’s my understnding of the use of Sharia Law in the UK.
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Annon
true Sharia law would hack your hand off for theft, stone women to death for adultary, as happened last week in Somalia; ban booze, prevent women from education(which might not be altogether bad), show extreme intolerance to any other word than that of the paedophile prophet Mohammed and generally be at complete odds to our liberal way of life.
Of course, you and Edmund are blinded by ideals and think all is rosy here in Britain, with our competing nation of tribes ( and i am not talking about the celts)
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Islam is a regressive religion and Sharia law epitomises the worst of it, unless you agree with stoning adulterous women
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adherents in tribal pakistan are boy buggerers ( well the Prophet Mohammed was a paedophile) while the women remain locked in the house
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Well Pigs as i said those elements of Sharia Law are not now and never will be allowed in this country, if they use those punishments in their own country then I am sorry but we cannot tell them how there legal system should work.
Do you seriously think any British Government would adopt Sharia Law in the UK, could you just imagine the uproar there would be from the country, we are lucky in that we live in a society where we can say no.
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well “honour killings” are not uncommon here, and that is purely another obnoxious cultural proclivity of Muslims here.
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But they are also Illegal here and if they are caught they are charged and prosecuted under British Law, and that is just a fact.
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and if you truly believed in social justice, instead of banging on about the BNP, sharia law being practices anywhere is cause for outrage. Vist religionofpeace dot com for a look at another aspect of Islam.
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Pigs Honour Killings are illegal under UK laws, so therefore they are prosecuted under UK law and imprisoned just like any person that commits murder in the UK.
However I do agree that we don’t need any form of Sharia law in the UK even if as it currently is agreed by both sides.
But in respect of those who choice to use the system then that is their choice, and if you think about it it actually saves the UK tax payer money in terms of the courts time we have to pay for.
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“well “honour killings” are not uncommon here, and that is purely another obnoxious cultural proclivity of Muslims here.”
They are also classed as murder by UK Law and people caught are prosecuted under UK Laws as they should be.
But I must agree on your point of Sharia Law (not to the same degree as you) but I agree never the less.
But as long as those laws are used by people who consent to them and they don;t directly effect me then I would respect peoples choice to use their system, unless of course it goes directly against British law i.e. Stonning etc.
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Sorry my response to you latest comments doesn’t seem to be getting through Pigs,
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@Pigs, I do agree with you with respect to Sharia Law however maybe not to the degree that you do, if people are accepting of it then they should be allowed to use the system.
But that stops when it comes to laws like stonning etc, basically anything that is directly against British Law should not be allowed in any form.
As for honour killings they are classed as murder in the UK and people caught doing so are rightly charged and tried under British Laws, so it is not something we are allowing here, it is something we treat equally as murder.
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i have to call it a day, salaam
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I too have to leave as i have promised to take the kids to the big city to see the grandparents, and off course to wind up my dad with the latest tech i have purchased that is better than his of course, health competition never hurt anyone.
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Aussie, your comment about the Moors taking Spain at the point of a sword is a comment that could equally be made about the British Empire’s “colonisation”. Under Moorish society Christians, Jews and Muslims lived together in relative peace, as I said until the Spanish king intervened. I doubt Moorish Spain was perfect, but neither was the British Empire.
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I don’t know about Lee Barnes responding to Nothing British but a lot of other people surely did!
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Edmund
i am more than prepared to concede that the British empire was built on the point of a sword, Australia is the classic example.
But i am also painfully aware that third world of colonisation of the Western world is underway. I am not happy with this concept and the BNP are the only political entity in the Caliphate of Britain, prepared to have the guts to do something about it.
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It is worth noting a difference. Christianity spread peacefully out as far as the British Isles by missionaries from the Holy Land and North Africa (before the Roman takeover).
Islam, from the outset was spread by fire and sword and in the end extinguished the civilisation and science of North Africa (similar to Rome’s extinguishing of the flame of knowledge).
The Crusades were a politico-religio war run by the Roman Church against the new, fanatically murderous regime spreading towards the Mediterranean (no change there then). Islam needed the sword to get anywhere. After all the peodophile who started it was hardly a role model.
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Acorn
if you have the stomach for it, there is a disturbing article on the prevelence of acid attacks on women in Pakistan, on religionofpeace dot com. Click on the link below the photo for the article and associated photos.
And people in your country go on about the BNP, there is no perspective with some people.
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My suggestion would be to assemble any large comment on a draft e-mail & then can be spell checked, then cut & pasted into the comment box.
That would prevent Annon being shown up by his teenage son!
But he could always “Say look mate, you’re closer in time to the education system than I am”.
Reminds me of a true story about a grizzled old timer working on public transport who was attending a training “seminar” hosted by some bright young thing, fresh out of university full of the latest management speak & theories.
Anyway the old boy says to the new boy when asked some awkward theory question, “Listen sonny, I have forgotten more than you have ever learnt!”.
So the new boy says “So why can’t you answer the question then?”
The old boy says sheepishly “Well that’s one of the things I’ve forgotten!”
If the Captcha code bit goes awry then sometimes the back button does lose the comment but you can paste again into the comment box.
Once the “Submit comment” has been pressed, it is a bit like firing a bullet, you can’t call it back!
The BNP website actually has edit & delete facilities, should you fire a comment off without engaging brain fully & then have a wave of regret!
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I will admit smiling slightly at the description of the Crusaders in some way having the moral high ground. Jews and even some (non-Catholic) Christians were no safer under the Crusaders rule than they were under the Muslims. And as for them wiping out African civilization, how many of the original African cultures remain where the Empire “colonized”?
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I think there are definite traces of original African culture in ex colonies but that would be for an Afro-expert to say, bit outside my experience but based on what I have been told by Africans.
They also have traces of English civil service, health & education practices as well.
Is that good or bad?
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I’m not arguing that the British Empire didn’t do anything worthwile, but it did a lot of things that seem to get swept under the carpet (I assume because it wouldn’t paint Britain in a particularly good light). I’m also NOT pretending Muslims are perfect, I don’t think any civilization has been perfect. But they have done SOME worthwile things.
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My view on Islam is it needs an enlightenment or a renaissence as it is in the dark ages at the moment.
But I have been told that is unlikely as that means moving away from the literal text of the Koran, which is God’s word & can’t be changed, so I can’t see any progress anytime soon.
It is stuck in the lifetime of Mohammed himself.
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I can obviously only speak for those Muslims I have met myself, and would never attempt to describe all Muslims (not that I’m saying anyone else is), but my experience of Muslims has yet to match the BNP’s description of them. But that is only my opinion.
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of course, none of this should detract from the fact that Britain, and indeed all of the Western world, is being colonised by the numerically larger third world.
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I don’t think I have ever heard such a distorted representation of the BNP.
1. AN absolute lie to state they want to repatriate ALL non-white people from the UK.
2. An absolute lie that they condemn the contribution of non-white soldiers to our forces.
3. An absolute lie and a rediculous claim that their policies are the same as Mr Hitlers….Oh! let’s invade the Balkans..idiotic!
Not so clever editing has produced a piece condemning the BNP outright, using in the most part, bought and paid for celebrity ex-squaddies.
As an ex-squaddie myself, I can state categorically, that the vast majority of my mates have sympathy for the main thrust of the views and policies of the BNP. Go to your local British Legion and get the views of the real members (only the ex-squaddie members).
When it comes to the forces, the BNP is the only party that holds them in such high esteem. The other parties simply use them to promote their own interests, then spit in their eye when the dirty deed is done – in fact the current crop, spit in their eyes WHILST the dirty deed is being done.
A lad with his leg blown off gets £15,000, whereas some femail desk jockey in the MOD gets £3 million for claiming sexual descrimination. (sic).
The BNP wants to right a few wrongs, and for that they get my full support.
I will be very interested to see if this is published, but I won’t hold my breath.
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Hey Back for a quick comment,
Mainly for people with Christian Views (of which I am not one) but doesn’t the bible say that Man was created in Gods Image?, and therefore doesn’t that mean that all humans of the planet are the same (apart from skin colour, which science has the answers for).
So in a non-ideal world should’t we all just get along and share the world we live in? don’t really know where this post is going but it will no doubt get somewhere.
Whether you like it or not we are burning up the worlds natural resources and at some point in the future the world will need to come together just to survive, and no I don’t mean in the sense of the New World Order, I mean with science, technology etc to find solutions to keeping the lights on etc.
So dividing the world now will only make it harder to solve the bigger problems that are coming after the natural resources get to critical point.
So why go back down the road of division now (a BNP policy) when we should be starting to bring the best and brightest of the world closer together now for the longer term good of the planet.
And @WTF too late to cover up, he read them and I got my list, but I used the cheap argument I did it on purpose to see if you were paying attention (he didn’t buy it, so I nicked his laptop) and just to answer Edmunds comment previously he wasn’t infact offended by thoughts of a certain poster suggesting he was following dads line, he actually thought it was funny as just (in his words) “goes to prove that people can’t accept that teenages can have free thought and have enough intelligence to make decissions for themselves, and that he will be one of the voters of the future that will also ensure parties like the BNP don’t get elected”
Anyway just thought I’d throw in some of my random (headache filled) thoughts today.
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That’s where the world population growth mainly is & if we become like the third world, who then will bail them out of one disaster after another?
I guess no one.
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Edmund, you miss the point about the Crusades. That area had been Christian and Jewish until they were forced to adopt Islam or die.
As for the British Empire, empires were the power politics of the day. No empire = limited trade, wealth and power. Are we to apologise for things that were acceptable but are no longer so?
Would you rather the inhabitants lived in the Portugese, Chinese or Spanish empires?
A for Muslims, there are good and bad and the same goes for most religions. However, Islam is not just a religion. It is a way of life and the more who come here increase the clash of cultures.
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My mother is an Orthodox Christian, ask any expert of the history of the Orthodox Church and they’ll tell you the Crusaders posed as much of a threat to their livelihood as the Muslims did.
I’m not saying the British Empire did nothing good, or that other empires did nothing wrong, but I’ve also read what the colonial forces did when other cultures refused to convert to Christianity.
I’m sure I’ll (again) have someone tell me that Spain was rescued from the Moors, but their rulers allowed Jews and Christians to live in relative freedom (something the Catholic Church of the time didn’t). Also, until more militaristic leaders took control large parts of the Middle East allowed relative religious freedom. What did they do that we apparentely cannot replicate?
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Cordoba was also a centre of knowledge and relative enlightenment. How Islamic culture has since regressed.
Edmund, myself and my fellow contributors obviously recognise the increasingly militant face of Islam, especially the element living in the Western world. Do you share any of our concerns, especially when one considers the disparity in fertility rates?
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I’m not pretending there aren’t extremists within Islam, and yes I am worried by that. I’m sure most other religions have extremists of one kind or another, I can remember reading of an American Christian who murdered a load of women in an abortion clinic, I’d count that as pretty extreme myself. My point is that we shouldn’t tar all Muslims with the same extremist brush.
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What about our concerns regarding the colonisation of the Western world by the third world?
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You’re right, it needs to be controlled. I may not agree with the BNP’s entire opinion on the subject, but I’m not blind enough to not realise there’s a limit to how many people we can fit in Britain. The whole world is going to run out of space eventually.
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I return to my comments yesterday; maybe a policy of payments for vasectomies, should be introduced in the third world and paid for by the developed world. Or a reward to families with one child.
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Why a policy only for the third world? We will still ultimately run out of food or space eventually. EVERYONE needs to restrict population growth.
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Also, a immediate halt on immigrants from these places needs to be introduced. A BNP policy, which some might not regard with favour, but sensible policy nonetheless.
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Because the developed world is not over-breeding; look at fertility rates in the world
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As I said, the whole WORLD is going to run out of food and/or space eventually. Restricting third-world population rates won’t stop it, merely slow it down.
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Edmund, my definition of the developed world is basically countries of European origin; excluding Latin America, this defintion would represent less than 1 billion people. The third world accounts for over 5 Billion people. The problem lies in the Third world, not the developed world, especially when one considers the flat fertility rates in the Developed world.
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Aussie if, as many scientists fear, the world’s population of bees all but dies out 80% of the world’s food crops will have nothing to fertilize them. That’s in both the developed world AND the developing world. Most see it as a very bad joke, but if it comes true then no-one will be laughing.
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I agree, luckily european bees are flourishing in New Zealand. It might become their biggest export earner ( after all blacks ). But basically, the planet is stuffed, and to be frank, i am glad i live here in relative isolation.
But back to bed for me, as the Wales / Australia game is finishing (6am)
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I heard the Chinese had people using feathers on sticks to polinate things!
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Well, according to one scientist that’s what pretty much every country will be forced to do unless the bee population suddenly recovers.
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“the Crusaders posed as much of a threat to their livelihood as the Muslims did”
I agree. The Teutonic Knights were fighting for [Western] “Roman Civilisation” whilst the Eastern Church, the remnants of the Eastern Empire, was regarded as an enemy. It is still remembered (quite correctly) in Orthodox folk memory.
“but I’ve also read what the colonial forces did when other cultures refused to convert to Christianity.” India must be Christian then…
“something the Catholic Church of the time ” I agree. Even Islam could have seemed easy going compared to the Office of the Holy See (Nobody expected a Spanish Inquisition – apologies to Monty Python)!
History is full of mistakes and we must learn from them. I do not think that social engineering, forced upon the indigenous population is a good idea.
Do I agree with all the BNP suggest on all issues? Not by a long chalk. I do however believe that further immigration must be constricted (not restricted) and that we should reduce the bureaucracy required for dealing with illegal immigrants and fake asylum seekers.
As for the bees, that is a serious problem which I believe comes down to undue haste to tamper with nature.
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What the Crusaders did to the Eastern Church in Constantinople and such places is why I suspect it will be a very long time before East and West are reunited, if ever.
Well, India may not be, but how many non-Christian/Muslim/other mainstream religions remain within Africa?
I admit we have to deal with immigration, I live on an island (which thankfully has largely avoided mass immigration problems so far) so I’m fully aware that we’re going to run out of space eventually. As I said earlier, every country will, the human race can’t just increase indefinitely.
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Yes we are as fleas on a dog & one day the dog will want to reduce the fleas because the irritation has become too much.
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Yes, and when it does I doubt its going to discriminate based on where you live, what religion you are, your sexuality etc.
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Or we could try to reduce the population EVERYWHERE so that problem doesn’t arise. We can’t tell the developing world that they need to restrict their population but just breed indefinitely in the developed world.
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True but how to achieve that?
The reality is that white people don’t generally overbreed, ok there’s those large Irish Catholic families or bored unemployable chavs on sink estates.
It is immigrant families here that tend to have large families.
I think in the end it will be nature or warfare that will limit human expansion.
Those wildlife programmes on TV clearly shows what happens to species that overbreed & it ain’t pretty!
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Indeed it isn’t, and we’re still assuming Mother Nature doesn’t intervene at some point. She has a few rather nasty cards up her sleeve (Yellowstone volcano anyone?).
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Ahh yes the supervolcano thing, that would turn the US into a giant Polo mint!
Then there is Krakatoa busily reforming itself for a future eruption.
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Yellowstone would screw up everywhere. Bear in mind the whole park is a volcanic crater and it doesn’t take much imagination to see what’ll happen.
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Well even Krakatoa sent debris around the world about 3 times which caused global cooling, so I assume Yellowstone would be far worse & the end of America as we know it.
Maybe the “Indians” would get what’s left back as their own?
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Heard now General rose has broken ranks with his former friends,to support the BNP,in bringing to justice,Blair,Brown,Dannett,Jackson and the rest of the war mongering pillocks.
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WTF, if Yellowstone erupts its going to be the equivalent of the other 9 most destructive eruptions (including Krakatoa and Mount St Helens) put together. The whole world is going to be pretty much doomed, not just America.
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