This Sunday Jobbik, the Hungarian neo-Arrow Cross and neo-fascist party and political ally of the BNP, are holding a drinks party in North London.

Zoltan Fuzessy with BNP leader Nick Griffin
The party is in aid of the setting up of the British Jobbik Society, whose aim is that Hungarians living in Great Britain “understand and support the national values and the programme of Jobbik”.
Guest speakers to this event include UK based Zoltan Fuzessy – chief of staff to Csanad Szegedi MEP – and Tamas Feher – head of the British Jobbik Association.
Jobbik are a revolting party. They’re an anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, pro-Hamas, gypsy-hating, conspiratorial and homophobic mob.
Demagogic Jobbik leaders regularly incite hatred against Hungary’s vulnerable Jewish, gay and Roma population, which in some cases has lead to extreme violence. See the report on Jobbik members involvement in a firebombing and shooting of a Roma family.
Nothing British is deeply concerned about the incremental rise of pan-European National Socialism and the threat it poses to our gentle British democratic values of decency and standing up the little guy.
In the past, Britain has fought long and hard against foreign fascism and we want nothing to do with it today.
More on this to follow.
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BITTER s all round
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I’m more concerned about the encroaching marxist super state that used to be called Europe and the idiots who are forcing us into its clutches.
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worry worry worry woe is me……tis the season to be jolly..unless of course your a member ov ze party
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A 66-year-old church elder convicted of indecently assaulting a child will not be sent to jail because his obesity means his health is “precarious”…
Theres hope for that big fat beached whale Alister Cooling yet!
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I wonder if he will make a miraculous recovery like Ronnie Biggs or Megrahi?
Is this the official invite, can we all go to the party if we bring a bottle?
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”Nothing British is deeply concerned about the incremental rise of pan-European National Socialism and the threat it poses to our gentle British democratic values of decency and standing up the little guy.”
Is NB as deeply and as equally concerned about the growing, vociferous, Islamic demands for a Pan-European Ummah from the Islamo-loons and the threat that Shari’a Law and courts would pose to any sort of democratic values of decency and justice?
Nope, thought not.
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‘gentle British democratic values of decency and standing up the little guy.’
What utter tripe.
Yet again another cracker of a non story from the northing british about the tories.
What about the fascist that the tories sit with in the EU.
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I see nothingBritish about nothing British has yet to issue a writ against the BNP for libel and slander over the BNPs allegation,on their website, that the kiddy fiddler Alister Cooling (a.k.a sam pauli) was a major contributor to the nothingBritish about nothing British website!I wonder why? Could it be the BNP were telling the Truth! Alister Cooling was a contributor to this worthless website everybody knows it!
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Just to clear things up:
1. They are not anti-anything, they are pro-Hungarian.
2. Roma = Gipsies (plural) in their language
(and we all know what gipsies do)
3. Most of them (members of Jobbik) want nothing to do with the BNP let alone with Nick Griffin.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8S5J12BrRk
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Sam Green says:I see alister Cooling has been erased from this pathetic website! Alister Cooling was a writer and contributor to this website everbody knows it!
Vor Says:Nicholas Eriksen was the BNP london assembly candidate and a contributor to the bnp.Ian Hindle and Andrew Wells were BNP members and both were jailed for having sex with a child and everyone knows it….
Touche….. lol
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77 innocent people shot or blown to bits in the last 2 days. All in the name of Allah and that perverse religion.
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Wrong, Vor. Ian Hindle and Andrew Wells admitted to being supporters of David Cameron. Another weirdo, Ian Huntley, was a member of the conservative party.
Like wise, so to was Dr Shipman.
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And what does it have to do with Jobbik???
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“Jobbik are a revolting party” Really? Compared to whom? The Conservatives and Labour? Parties that have consistently lied to and betrayed the British people.
Parties who have giving our sovereignty away without a vote; destroyed our industry; taken us into illegal wars; taken down our borders to let in anyone who is capable of reading a NI number and even those who can’t are still allowed in if they can remember the magic words “human rights”.
Parties who have also betrayed the working class and putting millions on the dole because of having to compete with these unneeded extra workers who can work for anything because they are living 10 to a house and and only paying 10% of their wages in living costs while we have to pay 100%.
Parties who have stolen from the public purse with bogus expense claims for moats and porn films, etc, while pensioners get put in shackles and jailed for not paying their council tax because they cannot afford to pay a tax that is extortionately high.
With the reason it is high is becuase half of it goes to the salaries and gold plated pensions of council management pen-pushers, and to provide shelter to asylum seekers who should not even be here in the first place because the UK is over-crowded and have limited resources to cope.
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On-and-on infinitum. Jobbik are a revolting party!! OK
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well put Jonah.
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Yes, the mainstream does hypocrisy oh so well!
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The news here tonight carried a report on the “extreme” EDL protest in Nottingham, opposed by the benign “anti-fascist” UAF, and they (media) went on to say that the simmering tensions in Britain are leading to an increase in support for the “far right” BNP.
The news report failed to give a background report on the untold millions of migrants who have recently flooded Britain, working on the cheap or ripping of welfare; nor did it mention the ghettoisation of many northern towns, the increase in islamic extremism etc…
Of course, it is all white Britains fault!
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Sam Green youre still the preverbial wanker
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Yeah! Britain is sinking fast. I seriously reckon that we. In WE, I mean sane Brit patriotic and decent nationalists, with a pioneering mind. Not the stupid wimpy traitor toffs or lazy, grubby lefty-liberal parasites, or chav parasites, drunks and druggies. We should leave this rat ridden corrupt and infested island. Leave all the losers to the mercy of the Muslims, immigrants and the EU, and buy some land in South America.
We could probably gather around 250,000 of us, together with our families and create our own nation from scratch. We could all contribute money to buy the land. Which would be some unwanted wasteland in Bolivia or Ecuador, about the size of Wales. We could do a deal with the government of the host nation and the local nationalists for protection and arms, etc, and then become recognised as a sovereign nation.
In 10 years of hard work, together with help with resources from other friendly nationalist from around the world we would have a thriving, self sufficient and wealthy nation. But above all a proud, happy and decent nation.
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move to Tasmania…gods country
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You even have your own devil apparently!
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Andy;
Please, dont tell rubbish; Hungarians are NOT gipsies. Their languages absolutely different, and,they do NOT speak any gipsy languages.
I think,you haven’t got a clue,where is Hungary at all. That’s true, plenty of gipsies live there,as everywhere in Eastern Europe. But they are NOT Hungarians, they are Hungarian citizens-that’s a big difference.
And, if you’ll meet some Hungarians,please, do NOT call them gipsies; you may get some serious injuries for that…
And,anyway;Many-many gipsies live in the Uk; but,there is nobody among the Hungarians,who calls the Britons as gipsies..
Regards; A Hungarian (who lives here,works hard,payes tax..)
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I don’t think Andy was calling Hungarians gypsies, he was saying that Jobbik don’t approve of the gypsies.
In this country in the media sometimes those gypsies are reffered to as Romanian but we know there is a difference.
What is your view on Jobbik as a party?
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Den, when I said “in their language” I meant the gippos’
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Hahaha jonah what a load of bollox …
This wasteland you intend to turn into utopia .. would need a motorway at 30million pounds a mile. A nuclear power station at 2.25 billion us$. An international airport at roughly 200 million pounds. Hospits ,schools, prisons (cause you white power types are drawn to crime like flies to shit) ans that’s before we talk about sewerage , reservoirs, telecoms infastructure, public transport , pensions, welfare. Etc etc etc . That’s why you nationalists shall never hold the reins of power ,you’re stupid deluded fantasists who put your crazy agenda before practical facts and rational thought. Good news is that if you pull it off you can be the village idiot as you’re clearly the best man for the job
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Vor. My post was written tongue n’ cheek, but your obviously to stupid not to see it. It is interesting how your stupidity is confirmed further by what you think are the needs of a fledgling nation. I mean Nuclear power stations? International Airports and Motorways? WTF. You are obviously follow the economic doctrine of globalisation, just like the clowns in Westminster. A system that has failed and almost collapsed. And why would a fledgling nation need to spend anything, when it has all the labour it needs? and when all resources are available from the natural environment? It is probably because you, being one of the old gang, being stale and devoid of vision, that you cannot see past monetary value.
In reality we are not going anywhere. We are not going to let you off that easily. We are coming after you. All you greedy and corrupt, perverted traitors.
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Dang it Jonah, I had my bag packed & was ready to go!
OK once we get rid of this corrupt bunch the country will be a lot richer to start with & stop paying out to the world’s freeloaders!
That money can go to repairing this country.
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hmmm fledgling nation … built on wasteland. Are you one of these back to the land luddites?? An airport would be required in your tongue in cheek Utopia as Bolivia is landlocked. Im sorry if i took your statement as being a genuine joke, you hear so much rubbish spouted by posters on this site it becomes very hard to distinguish a joke from a genuine belief. But anyway electricity is a requirement of a flourishing nation as are good methods of transport etc. Im just amused that 60+yrs after the end of wwII , Nazi types are still wanting to flee to South America
Sorry Jonah we hop topics on here sometimes as Maurice sometimes cuts posts on one link and not on the other…So i/we topic hop
One good thing though i now know i can post to the site from my HTC Hero ….hurrah
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Jobbik Friends of Hungary (UK), extends gratitude to Metropolitan Police
http://www.jobbik.com/europe-news/3140.html
The picketers’ leaflet
http://imgsrv09.kuruc.org/galeriaN/egyeb/jobbikbritaninszorol.jpg
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“HTC Hero”
Wass that?
Asian gadget magic?
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Lol wtf;)
its the next generation of mobile phone its like apples I phone but better. It was voted this years best gadget by gadget magazine. It took a while to get used to cos its touchscreen and I have hands like shovels but most useful I have to say. I watch tv on it , use it as sat nav in the car, I can even point it at the heavens and it tells me what star(s) I’m looking at. I can see where you got mixed up with honda hero, Indias most popular motorcycle lol
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Oh if you think the banking collapse wasn’t engineered ..WAKE UP.
I sold my RBS shares at £20.19 when I realised they were trying to sell their insurance business(the family silver basically) after the acquisition of abn. They then fell to 30 odd pence during the collapse so I bought as much as I could using the money I made from the first sale at thirtysix pence I think. Then kindly tax payers poured billions in and they are now worth ten times that. During the next boom when all the guillable fools are spent up on credit up to their eyes and they peak again ill sell again.
Do you think the rich and the super rich lost money?? Simply didn’t happen the city boys still get their bonus. The big wheel keeps turning and the financially astute make money.
Sadly the people at the bottom get fattened up during the good times and then get sheared and led to the abatoir during the bad…. it isn’t nice but that’s capitalism…. maybe you should consider islamic banking (its much more humane)
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2010 POLL UK GENERAL ELECTION SITE BNP STILL IN THE LEAD.great news.
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God Cameron is another tosser.god did he inspire the troops,another monsterous bore.
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He should think himself lucky the troops didn’t shoot him on the spot, maybe they were waiting their chance with Gordon?
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Oh no Army BNP is back with his predictions !!! lol.
“2010 POLL UK GENERAL ELECTION SITE BNP STILL IN THE LEAD.great news.”
Is that that the BNP site is in the lead or that the BNP are tipped for electoral victory with a huge majority, Sweeping aside the big 3 parties and forming the next government…. ?
do some push ups grunt, it may get the blood flowing to your brain
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LOL WTF… its basically a phone but its what Apple wish theyd made. Its full internet either through 3g or by wireless from your(or someone elses) wi-fi. I watch tv on it, stream music and video through it, use it as sat nav in the car and as a handheld gps when on the hill. When i lose my phone i can get it to send me its longditude and latitude with a password so i can find it. It opens pdf files ms office etc, real time e-mail with attachments. Dictaphone, spirit level, camera, translator, etch a sketch. yep you heard me right ETCH A SKETCH. lol
I think your mixing it up with the honda hero. indias most popular motorcycle:)
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Jonah you say ” You are obviously follow the economic doctrine of globalisation, just like the clowns in Westminster. A system that has failed and almost collapsed.”
It didnt fail, the system worked perfectly.
I bought shares in RBS many years ago at approx £3.50 i held onto them and kept buying more as the time went by. I sold my shares just after the purchase of ABN Amro when RBS unsuccesfully tried to sell its insurance business (Direct line/Churchill/etc) because i realised this was akin to selling the family silver and realised something was afoot. So i sold the lot at £20.19. The collapse happened a month or so later and the share price fell to around 30 pence, so i bought over a hundred times as many shares as i had in the first place and are hanging onto them for the next boom.
My shares are safe because the nice taxpayer has made sure that banks never go under no matter what.
Boom and bust is an engineered cycle and i am an engineer, so i know how it works. Do you think the Super rich and the financially savvy lost money ? I didnt, Sir Fred Goodwin didnt either, nor did the boys in the striped shirts in the city.
The way it works is, during the good times you get fattened up and we let your wool grow. When the bad times are on the horizon we shear you and take you to the abatoir. Cruel? but thats capitalism if you want ethical trading and finance adopt Islamic Banking
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VoR
“When i lose my phone i can get it to send me its longditude and latitude with a password so i can find it.”
So it can say “I am down the back of the sofa” or “You left me in the pub toilet again” then?
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“Boom and bust is an engineered cycle”
Yes a lot of people I was reading said it was all going to end in tears.
If the pound is destroyed, replaced by the Euro & we go cap in hand to the EU & IMF for bailing out & lifetime of servitude that was engineered too!
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Not sure that islamic banking helped Dubai much!
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Do you guys ever discuss anything ontopic?
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First of all , most of you that are protesting against jobbik are fools and have nothing better to do than get manipulated by your own media , jobbik is a pro Hungarian group , and speaking on our Hungarian language its one of the oldest languages in europe.
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“Andy says:
December 8, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Do you guys ever discuss anything ontopic?”
A case could be made that this whole website finds it difficult to stay on topic!
Their efforts to rubbish the BNP, end up dragging in all sorts of tenuous links!
So the comments tend to spiral off too.
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Pompous toff Vor thinks his HTC phone is clever, but theres one thing it can’t do which he does perfectly…
Talk out of its backside!
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Vor, I would be thinking more in the line of a single runway than an international Airport. I don’t think a fledgling nation’s top priority would be towards landing Boeing’s and Airbuses. And there are plenty of ways to generate electricity, nuclear would hardly be an option. And do you know that being called a “Nazi” by the ponces n’ nonces carries a much weight as a fart? Anyway good luck with your shares.
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Friends and good comrades, we have all been sold down the river by the very people we voted in, people who have holiday homes flats, farms, castles globally and they all fly to those places but have the audacity to tell us plebs to use the car less, fart less etc etc, and WE vote for the fat swines. To really cap it all they then surrender us like wee willie winkies sheep to the new holy roman empire, an unelected pack of god knows what and they will now begin to really put the boot in, just watch.
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Nothing British,you are tossers,See your membership is still very very low,HA HA.VOTE BNP AND BE PROUD TO BE BRITISH.
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Davey says”Pompous toff Vor thinks his HTC phone is clever, but theres one thing it can’t do which he does perfectly…
Talk out of its backside!”
Vor says “My backside is evidently more factual , intellectual and eloquent than most of the pro BNP posters on this site”
Says a lot for the (below) Average BNP voter….
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Jonah, do a bit of reading on the construction of Tegel airport during the soviet blockade of berlin following the end of WWII. Itl give you a great insight into the logistics of providing for the needs of your “tongue in cheek” Utopian society. I wasnt suggesting your a Nazi ive been on here long enough to notice not all BNP voters are Nazi. They are generally just a slight variation on the theme though.
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I should hope not! The Nazi part was a particularly German party. The Blackshirts in the UK (and Blue Shirts in the Irish Free State) were similar (all this dressing up and silly armbands) and associated themselves with the Fascists, Falangists and Nazis.
It is about time we ceased silly name calling (unless you find a party that wishes to be associated with the Nazis). It is but smoke and mirrors. Let us deal with the politics of today.
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comrades, is it true that if you now join hm forces you have to sign an oath of allegance to the eu, rather than to the Queen?
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It is true that we have been sold out to the EU without so much as a by-your-leave or a vote even!
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The reason why is because all aspiring politicians have been ensured of a gravy train that will never be questioned or held to account. MONEY causes them to prostitute themselves, f*** the rest, meaning you and me.
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Remember the Belgians, they refused to supply us with vital ammunition during the Falklands war. Those are the sort of tossers we are being forced to lie with. RIP cool britannia.
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The author of this piece is a 1st rate liar and probably a extreme left communist. Jobbik has never been charged with attacks on anyone. They have never incited violence against any person or group of people. They are anti-zionist. So what? How can a person of conscience not be anti zionist when on a daily basis Israeli jews and their army (with American weapons) burn Palestians alive with phosphorus shells and in general are committing GENOCIDE against the native Palestians. Since the end of the Cold War, the wealth of Hungary has been looted by ex communists who now hide in the MSZP Hungarian Socialist Party. Former PM Ferenc Gyurcsany was the communist era Minister of Youth. The Hungarian people are getting poorer everyday as this cabal of Zionist Jews and communists loot the country. That is why they and YOU, the Author of this piece, spread such vulgar lies about them. You’re afraid that Jobbik will do what it promises and bring the criminals to justice.
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sorry topic hop from war vets speak out against the BNP. Maurice the bastard is censoring again(or its just his shitty IT)
Jason you say to Edmund “you do live in cloud cuckoo land!”
then prior to that you made this statement: the majority in ulster do not want commies in power but the brits and yanks have managed to rig a system by a GUARANTEE that whatever we think they are ENSURED of a power base.
So you are actually suggesting that the USA who have been opposing communism more or less since its inception so fervently that they.
1. Fought the Vietnam war
2. Fought the Korean war
3. Fought the proxy Afghan war
4. Launched the Bay of Pigs attack.
5. Have held sanctions against Cuba for 50 odd years.
6. Supported anti communist movements in Angola
7. Supported anti communists movements in Nicaragua
8. Supported anti communists movements in Laos
9. Supported anti communists movements in Cambodia
10. Supported anti communists movements in Ethiopia
11.Supported anti communists movements in Eritrea
12. had Mccarthy communist “witch hunts”
13. Nearly brought us to the brink of all out nuclear war during the Berlin crisis,
the Cuban missile crisis, and a few other times.
Are you seeing the pattern yet?
or ill put it like this:
14. Supported the Uk in the installation of a Communist government in Northern Ireland.
As for the referring to people as pollution youre just showing yourself up as a bigot. Frankly to call yourself a Christian is and insult to Christianity. Youre keen on a bit of scripture…
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God (Matthew 5.9) sorry. i dont think you qualify ! because all i get from you is hatred and bigotry oozing from every pore. Lets hope God is particularly forgiving the day youre there!!
As for the right of Catholics to be involved in government ill run a little scenario for you. Its 200 years from now and through immigration(as in Ireland) and by conversion, Christians are a minority compared to the say for example Scientologists.
Now do you have any objections against christians having a permenant place secured in the decision making process??
As for this Columbian subject;
Have you been snorting the famous Columban marching powder??
I think its pickled your brain!!
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sorry topic hop from war vets speak out against the BNP. Maurice the bastard is censoring again(or its just his shitty IT)
Jason you say to Edmund “you do live in cloud cuckoo land!”
then prior to that you made this statement: the majority in ulster do not want commies in power but the brits and yanks have managed to rig a system by a GUARANTEE that whatever we think they are ENSURED of a power base.
So you are actually suggesting that the USA who have been opposing communism more or less since its inception so fervently that they.
1. Fought the Vietnam war 2. Fought the Korean war3. Fought the proxy Afghan war4. Launched the Bay of Pigs attack.5. Have held sanctions against Cuba for 50 odd years.6. Supported anti communist movements in Angola 7.Supported anti communists movements in Nicaragua8. Supported anti communists movements in Laos9. Supported anti communists movements in Cambodia10. Supported anti communists movements in Ethiopia11.Supported anti communists movements in Eritrea12. had Mccarthy communist “witch hunts”13. Nearly brought us to the brink of all out nuclear war during the Berlin crisis,the Cuban missile crisis, and a few other times.
Are you seeing the pattern yet?
or ill put it like this:
14. Supported the Uk in the installation of a Communist government in Northern Ireland.
As for the referring to people as pollution youre just showing yourself up as a bigot. Frankly to call yourself a Christian is and insult to Christianity. Youre keen on a bit of scripture…
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God (Matthew 5.9) sorry. i dont think you qualify ! because all i get from you is hatred and bigotry oozing from every pore. Lets hope God is particularly forgiving the day youre there!!
As for the right of Catholics to be involved in government ill run a little scenario for you. Its 200 years from now and through immigration(as in Ireland) and by conversion, Christians are a minority compared to the say for example Scientologists.
Now do you have any objections against christians having a permenant place secured in the decision making process??
As for this Columbian subject;
Have you been snorting the famous Columban marching powder??
I think its pickled your brain!!
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comrades, is it true that if you now join hm forces you have to sign an oath of allegance to the eu, rather than to the Queen?
NO IT IS NOT.
An aquaintance has just joined up and its the same old “I pledge allegiance to HM lizzie her Heirs and successors etc”
Do you think with a republic just over the horizon that the royals are going to give up that easy? If they give up that easy then Charlie might have to take off the tens of medals on his dress uniform(that his mammy gave him) when the only shooting he ever does is after the glorious 12th(probably before too)
And if someone can explain how he earned those trinkets when there are genuine service personel from the Malayan and suez campaigns who got nothing for decades, Soldiers who were Nuked and to this day recieved no payout as they rotted with cancer, can possibly be just??
Moving onto the current generation of “Serving Royals” did you see the clearly staged footage of the young prince “doing his bit” in Afghanistan. That place was as sanitized as the grounds of Buckingham palace, i doubt there was a tan or a turban within a mile of him and he probably had an Apache sat a few hundred feet above him. But the sun readers buy this bullshit about our brave prince and THATS WHAT COUNTS. I wish my mates who are serving over there could get that level of protection. It would be nice if they had bog roll too!!
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C’mon now VoR our fine soldiers do not shit themselves, why would they need bog roll!
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real soldiers use sand, they do not need bog roll!
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Of course but what if they are they are not in a desert?
Are leaves a good substitute?
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leaves are excellent, ask Jethroe.
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Yeah but in the Bastion you’d expect Andrex at least.!!
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Why are the English obsessed by war?i have always been intrigued by this.Do they live on former glories because at present their country is a cesspit?I dont get it at all!Still happy hogmanay when it finally comes round,and may 2010 see an end to mans inhumanity to man
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But the BNP want to stay out of unneccesary wars!
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The Bnp have always been anti war in the Gulf region and never have agreed to sending any of our troops to their death 7000 miles away from home. If they want to kill eachother, then let them,saves the scum coming over here.BRING OUR TROOPS HOME,LONG LIVE THE QUEEN,not that “fudge pusher”, freddie mercury,sammi.
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slow down chaps.i said why are the ENGLISH obsessed by war ,i never mentioned “them” once. Peggy,you honestly would lay down your life for an old over priviliged old dear ,who s way past her sell by date?I can understand a little ,dying to protect your country,but dying to preserve a family of parasites scrounging off the sweat of the working classes…nope its beyond me.Ban the Monarchy.Viva la Revolucion
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Sammi, what have you got against the monarchy? Both the Queen and the Duke served in WW2 and her parents refused to leave buckingham palace in sympathy with the people of London. Whom would you replace them with? The fact is there is not a figure in the british institutions worthy to lick their boots. You are a typical nondescript drifter of no consequence who does not like standards such as the Royals represent.You lambast the english as they who like war, who are the english? do you mean the british? I agree about the cesspit, it is time to get rid of labour, new labour, tories, lib.dems. etc and vote in people who fly the union flag with backbone,take no nonsense from the eu,and give britons back their country. People like you and vor could go to the falklands, because there are plenty of sheep to keep you from being lonely.
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You’ve become awfully erudite all of a sudden Sam!
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Iam Iam……Jason ,there are plenty of sheep on the Malvinas,so many in fact the war machine sent an expedition force to save them.
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Otherwise they would all be put in Fray Bentos pies & sold to us!
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sami, where the hell are the malvinas?
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Las Islas Malvinas?Argentina!
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Better known to us as the Falkland Islands which is what they are called until the Argentinians get control of them.
Sounds like Sam has sold them off already or should I say flogged them?
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Sami
They’re better of saving the sheep,rather than pricks like you,you knobhound
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sami, I know where they are. I have been there.
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same old peggy,full of cheer
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jason how many 16 yr old argentine conscripts did you kill (in your own mind no doubt)?
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Sam, the Falklands have always been British; ever since the first settlers in the 1830s. Previously , they were uninhabited.
Any Argentinian claim, comes from Spanish claims to the islands, BEFORE Argentina got its independence.
The wish of the populace is to remain British and that should be respected. Why do you have a problem with this?
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i dont ,whatever floats yer boat,or sinks it,in the case of the belgrano
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sam, you are from the w est of scotland, you are irish, not scots, so how can you comment on the falklands whenever you do not know who you are yourself?
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you are from the west of scotland,youre irish?bit of double bluffing there!
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sam, the irish settled the west of scotland so there you are, paddy sam!
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does this mean both of you are gael?
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Jason the Irish settled all over the world,and probably even in the fictional Fifeshire!
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